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labby1 Cylon Advance 0	Posted - 2011.10.23 09:24:00 - [1] - Quote i am setting up a medium pos and when looking at guns, Whats the point of the small and medium auto cannons, there range sucks big time and they are no use for a med or large pos as they will only shoot within the range of the shield. Small = 10.5km range Medium = 15km Are these only any good for small pos's ?
Sentient Blade Walk It Off Coalition of the Unfortunate 34	Posted - 2011.10.23 09:31:00 - [2] - Quote You'll notice that certain types of guns get range bonuses on certain towers; projectiles for example get a bonus on Minmatar towers. But yes you want a mix of each - for highsec the mediums are usually the best bet. Large guns are useful when trying to defend yourself against capitals but their tracking suffers because of it. As always, the most important thing is to have POS gunners. Lots of them.
Meridith Akesia Stimulus Rote Kapelle 52	Posted - 2011.10.23 09:48:00 - [3] - Quote The point is to shoot small and medium targets.
Marbin Drakon Future Corps Sleeper Social Club 0	Posted - 2011.10.23 10:23:00 - [4] - Quote Note: I'm not able to access the client right now to check these numbers: You have to remember that you're looking at autocannons. When you factor in falloff (42km and 63km respectively), the ranges make more sense. Also, guns are anchored outside the forcefield. I hope that helped.
non judgement Without Fear Flying Burning Ships Alliance 105	Posted - 2011.10.23 10:45:00 - [5] - Quote If it's in highsec, I wouldn't bother with large guns on a POS, no dreads around. Even in lowsec, large guns wont help much.. If someone wants to remove it, they'll bring enough firepower to remove your POS. It's best to just put medium and small guns on it. Whatever you do, don't put missiles on a POS. I had pulse and beam lasers, when I had one.
Mar Drakar LDK Test Alliance Please Ignore 10	Posted - 2011.10.23 10:53:00 - [6] - Quote ever had your pos taken down by bombers? Don't put smalls and mediums and you will have one then! :) And in null/low sec, without small guns your pos is open for total abuse by cheap frigs with fighters asigned... well you don't want to miss out on any size lazors
Tarikla Projet Aurora 8	Posted - 2011.10.23 10:53:00 - [7] - Quote Hint : make it a "d1ckstar" POS , a.k.a lots and lots of ECM (and different racial ECM , so you can cover all 4 races) , and maybe some hardeners if you want . Pain in the ass to pop , and with a few medium turret , deadly as hell .
Breaker77 Reclamation Industries 21	Posted - 2011.10.23 11:52:00 - [8] - Quote Marbin Drakon wrote: Also, guns are anchored outside the forcefield. I hope that helped. It would have helped more if you had mentioned that even though guns are anchored outside the forcefield, the range of the guns, and tracking, is based off of the location of the control tower, not the weapon itself.
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 331	Posted - 2011.10.23 12:09:00 - [9] - Quote Tarikla wrote: Hint : make it a "d1ckstar" POS , a.k.a lots and lots of ECM (and different racial ECM , so you can cover all 4 races) , and maybe some hardeners if you want . Pain in the ass to pop , and with a few medium turret , deadly as hell . you have it backwards, you aim for to maximize resists on the tower.
Mr Kidd Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 83	Posted - 2011.10.23 12:21:00 - [10] - Quote You want a mix of small and medium, autocannon and artillery. The point of small guns is being able to track small targets such as frigates. Mediums will never track them. And still, the smalls will do substantial damage to battleships. Without the smalls a single frigate could come in and run your guns out of ammo before the main fleet arrives. You also want webs and warp disruptors and plenty of ECM. My setups are built around ECM, 2x webs and 2x disruptors having 2 of each type of ECM. From that point I utilize the rest of my CPU and PG with guns, one more medium art and auto than I have in smalls and I'm good to go. The only time this fit fails is when the big fleets show up and I can't get reinforcements into my wh in time ;). Generally, I don't have little p!ssants toying with my POS when I'm not around. One thing is for sure...if you're POS is setup in a way that screams NOOB, be sure that in effect you are inviting someone to attack your POS. So, make sure that your hardeners are INSIDE the FF. I've run across a few setups with the hardeners OUTSIDE the FF. Being in hisec, your design and layout should vary from mine. IDK. I think my design is refered to as a deathstar whereas someone else in the thread was suggesting a d!ckstar with lots of ECM. the d!ckstar has its place, especially if you have friends that can come in and help you defend. But if you don't then you'll want to rely on a deathstar in the hopes that you can break their logi support. Once that's down it's purely a matter of killing them faster than they're incapping your guns. We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX!
David Grogan The Motley Crew Reborn 103	Posted - 2011.10.23 12:46:00 - [11] - Quote non judgement wrote: If it's in highsec, I wouldn't bother with large guns on a POS, no Dreads/SC around. Even in lowsec, large guns wont help much.. If someone serious wants to remove it, they'll bring enough firepower to remove your POS. It's best to just put medium and small guns on it, that way, it'll put off the not so serious. Whatever you do, don't put missiles on a POS. guns really don't help regardless of what size vs today's blobs Poses are too weak A Small tower can be popped with as little as 6 stealth bombers.... Medium and Large towers are usually hit by large blobs of caps and take only minutes to reinforce. Everytime you buy something that says "made in china" you are helping the rising unemployment in your own country unless your from china, Buy locally produced goods and help create more jobs.
Renan Ruivo Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance 215	Posted - 2011.10.23 12:55:00 - [12] - Quote David Grogan wrote: non judgement wrote: If it's in highsec, I wouldn't bother with large guns on a POS, no Dreads/SC around. Even in lowsec, large guns wont help much.. If someone serious wants to remove it, they'll bring enough firepower to remove your POS. It's best to just put medium and small guns on it, that way, it'll put off the not so serious. Whatever you do, don't put missiles on a POS. guns really don't help regardless of what size vs today's blobs Poses are too weak A Small tower can be popped with as little as 6 stealth bombers.... Medium and Large towers are usually hit by large blobs of caps and take only minutes to reinforce. What EVE are you playing? Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand.

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