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Papermate
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Posted - 2005.11.19 17:09:00 -
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5 220 tech2, rocket with defenders/rockets 10mnab2, 1 exp hardener, 1kinetic, 1 large shiedl booster 3 gyro, 2 PDS2 or 3 PDS and 2 gyro.
Would this work? Would it be better to use a large sheild extender+ med sheild booster with crappier resistances? OR is vaga just not right for npcing. I thinking of scratching using the zealot and using this instead.
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Chode Rizoum
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Posted - 2005.11.19 17:12:00 -
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what about ?
5 x 425 II 2 x Small lunchers
1 x 10mn ab 1 x explosive 1 x kin 1 x large sb
5 x Power diags II ?
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Papermate
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Posted - 2005.11.19 17:13:00 -
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just realised there is no webber on that setup.
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2005.11.19 17:17:00 -
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hmmm... npcing in angel space with hac is hard i think... Maybe some badass vaga setup with gistii large booster, but...
Zealot... will have problems breaking those tanks.
I'd suggest plated ishtar, but ... in the end i think you will end in bs. Be back in a year or so :/
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Pre-patch: Scorpion + Gankageddon. Post-patch: Scorpion + Raven, maybe.
Missiles sux, doesn't they?
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Kuningatar
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Posted - 2005.11.19 17:18:00 -
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220mm II
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Dray
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Posted - 2005.11.19 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Kuningatar
220mm II
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Papermate
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Posted - 2005.11.19 17:26:00 -
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thing is i dont want a BS, its either vagabond or zealot. i just wondering if 1 large tech2+exp hardener is enough resits, after RMR it will probably look like 1 invul+1 damage control 2.
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Muad 'dib
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Posted - 2005.11.19 18:00:00 -
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I used mine to hunt all rats with an expensive gistii X-type booster and a large sheild extender II, could tank for long enough to kill a few and reduce dmg, BS rats tend not to hit if your using AB anyway :D
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Soul Queen
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Posted - 2005.11.19 18:17:00 -
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I like to use this setup on my vaga. Forgive me if i get it a little wrong, been a while.
HIGH 5 X 180's II
MED 1 X ABII 1 X SB (I Like to use a small Gistii A-Type because it runs forever but thats just cause i have one, otherwise id probably use the biggest one that fits. 2 X Large Extenders
LOW 5 X PDU
You get around 7k shields with this setup, and the only thing you have to worry about are webber friggs and BS at the same time, but the friggies go down pretty quick. The 180's dont do too bad dmg and they fit 100 round of EMP in em, which is handy. 220's wont fit.
I like to orbit at about 4k, but once again, each to there own. You will NOT break a seraphims tank with this setup, but its a very safe setup rather than gank.
Soul.
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Papermate
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Posted - 2005.11.19 18:22:00 -
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Edited by: Papermate on 19/11/2005 18:21:52 ok well im gonna try this.
5 220 tech2, rocket with defenders 10mn ab2, x5 webber, large shield booster2, 50% kinetic hardener, 1 gyry2, 4pds2. 10 warriors. If that doest work, ill try the same but replace a hardener with a named sheild extender.
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Uchikage
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Posted - 2005.11.19 20:29:00 -
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One of your main advantages NPCing in a HAC is that BS weapons don't do full damage to you, especially missiles. When you put shield extenders on and they raise your sig radius, that advantage goes out the window. I recommend you at least try this:
whatever you like in high, autocannons, nos/launchers 1 AB, web, best SB you can get, best boost amp you can get
at least 1 gyrostab (1st one gives you 23% dps, how could you give that up), pdus for tank, and damage control after RMR if you want _______________________________________________ "...which will become my sword in the very near future." "Bish, you don't have a future."
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Papermate
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Posted - 2005.11.19 21:15:00 -
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setup works fine, just some minor cap problems.
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.11.19 21:22:00 -
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Just wondering, are you using EMP or Fusion ammo?
Cant be bothered with the calcs but i recon Fusion would be better because of the resistances that Angels have.
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Papermate
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Posted - 2005.11.19 22:17:00 -
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Edited by: Papermate on 19/11/2005 22:18:08 Even though the vagabond works, the ammo usage is way to high as i just ate 12k of fusion for like 10-15 BS+ escort.
DPs with 1 gyro is about 240 DPS of an apoc with 7 megapulse 2 and decent skills is 240 with UV, 320 with MF but when you account resistances, 320 of MF goes down to a 270( took 15% off damage, this is all "without resists dmg"). So basically its close to an apoc with MF(16km=sux) in damage, and yes i am using fusion. I think its slighty better then EMP cause EM dmg aint great.
Think im gonna go with the tachyon apoc. Loot sux anyway.
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Dray
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Posted - 2005.11.19 22:47:00 -
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Dont use lasers against angels, its what they generally tank best, use the vaga with 220mm auto II's and launcher with def's or a nos, med t2 sb, t2 ab, t2 lge shield extender, and a web then shuffle this as u see fit, 4-1 dam mods, 1-4 pdu II. Personally 4 dam mods works for me.
Web the target and nos the nearest your not shooting or the target if u have to, run booster.
If theres a lot of frigs warp in target, run away and fire at the frigs at a silly range ( you wont hit but they will come to you, normally), they will catch you but your away from cruisers and or bs's and have time to kill the frigs b4 the cruisers/bs's make a difference.
repeat and rinse.
This will work but the drawbacks are the obvious ones, you use a lot of ammo, a cruiser/bs spawn will be a pain but its not impossible, just dont get complacent.
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Dray
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Posted - 2005.11.19 22:51:00 -
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oh yeah... fusion ammo ftw
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