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Sebastien LaForge
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Posted - 2005.11.19 21:05:00 -
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Well, seeing as how I'm training up for an Enyo, I figure I'd get some advice before wasting money. The question at hand is should I go with 125mm or 150mm rails? 125 do less damage, have a shorter range, but track better and fire faster. 150s do more damage at a greater range, but fire slower and track slower. People say that you won't hit crap under 10km with 150s against an inty. Others say you will. I don't know what to choose. 125mm rails will leave me with more fitting room, but I like the bigger gun appeal of the 150mms. Such a predicamate. Thoughts?
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lofty29
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Posted - 2005.11.19 21:11:00 -
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125, definately. You can use antimatter and still be out of web range, and keep a decent tank. 150's only do a small amount more damage, which is pretty much their only bonus. OFC, railguns are only good for bc's and down, and blasters rock for anti-bs enyo's :)
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Linavin
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Posted - 2005.11.19 22:06:00 -
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125s are generally better on tech II frigs than 150s, with the notable exception of the harpy and its huge optimal range bonus (greatly increasing the range advantage of 150mms). But 125s aren't preferable for tracking as much as they are for fitting costs. A 125 isn't going to hit anything that a 150 can't hit, but they leave a great deal more room for varied setups and flexability.
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2005.11.19 22:07:00 -
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Edited by: dantes inferno on 19/11/2005 22:08:45
125. less fiting requierments, better traking..you only get a small amount of extra dmg and range so i personaly wont use 150's on a frig setup
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with the notable exception of the harpy and its huge optimal range bonus (greatly increasing the range advantage of 150mms).
still aint worth it on the harpy, i get more DPS with 4*125 and a standard launcher than i will get with 4*150. and my range opt is still 13km with AM ammo which is good enough
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Buzzmong
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Posted - 2005.11.20 23:37:00 -
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well, you'd be hard pushed to fit 4 150mm t2's on an enyo anyway.
I'm personally on the fence, as I use 2 125mm t'2, and 2 150mm 'scouts' on my enyo for pve.
I havnt yet bothered to do the dps calcs, but there's .5 of a multiplier difference between my t2 125's and my named 150's (named doing more).
I think 4 t2 125's will probably have a higher dps.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2005.11.21 00:03:00 -
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Before skills are factored in, 150s* do barely more dmg iirc. Now with skills/mods/implants all factored in, I'm not sure (get back to me in 1-2 months), but from what I've seen by checking calcs on test pages, you can hit out at 20km with AM in 150s on a harpy (using alittle falloff iirc), which is only bad if facing enemy cruiers or BSes that hit well at that rangem, but you'll beable to keep outside of Heavy NOS range if lucky, and that right there is nice.
*if you swap 150s for 125s, you can probably fit a t2 stab(or 2?) which may give more overall dmg.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.11.21 00:29:00 -
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125's for me. The tracking is important against frigate-sized targets.
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Brep
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Posted - 2005.11.21 00:30:00 -
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this might help you:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=136267&page=4
I just made that analysis a couple of hours ago.
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Brep
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Posted - 2005.11.21 00:35:00 -
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and by the way, quit it with the tracking nonsense. I never miss a shot down to 1000m with 150mm's. The fitting for t2 150mm is what kills it... which is why I'm looking to 125mm or more likely, t2 blasters (see above link).
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Jester87
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Posted - 2005.11.21 01:22:00 -
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U kidding me? The Tracking on the 125's is totally better, you cannot hit fast frigates with 150's and with 125's u can.. Dont lie.. 125's 4tw
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Gronsak
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Posted - 2005.11.21 02:08:00 -
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Originally by: Jester87
U kidding me? The Tracking on the 125's is totally better, you cannot hit fast frigates with 150's and with 125's u can.. Dont lie.. 125's 4tw
they both track fine
use 150 where possible to maximise the enyos range bonous
and on harpys anything but 150mm t2 is stupid
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Brep
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Posted - 2005.11.21 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: Jester87
U kidding me? The Tracking on the 125's is totally better, you cannot hit fast frigates with 150's and with 125's u can.. Dont lie.. 125's 4tw
*sigh* You need to try 150mm before making claims like that. Just because 125mm track better doesn't mean 150mm won't hit. They do, every time. I've popped intys with them no problem. Oh and don't forget the Enyo gives a tracking bonus anyway, giving the 150mm more than enough tracking. So I'm not "lying", thank you very much. I'm speaking from experience. I'll gladly test it with you 
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.11.21 02:33:00 -
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I like the 125's for the extra tracking and lighter fiting requirements, personally.
The dps is nearly identical for 125's and 150's, but --aside from extra range-- one thing going for the 150's which i overlooked until it was pointed out to me is, the 150's will do more damage per hit, which, when you get one of these excellent or wrecking shots, can make all the difference between killing the target or them killing you. ^^;;
(per-shot 150's outdamage 125's by 40% or so... a very considerable amount)
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Linavin
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Posted - 2005.11.21 02:34:00 -
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Originally by: dantes inferno
still aint worth it on the harpy, i get more DPS with 4*125 and a standard launcher than i will get with 4*150. and my range opt is still 13km with AM ammo which is good enough
The discussion gets into the relm of personal perference at this point, as I would personally perfer my 20 km optimal with antimatter with 150mms than a higher damage (counting an extra damage mod and/or standard launcher) but shorter ranged 125mm setup.
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