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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.11.23 09:12:00 -
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Originally by: Sarkos
We also attack slavers and have so far freed tens of thousands of slaves
Forgive the interruption Voshoud but I must correct you on this point. Its hundreds of thousands at least.
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Just a simple warrior.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.11.23 10:14:00 -
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Matari propaganda or simply feeble arithmetic ? 
My money's on a mixture of both, oh well not as if better should be expected of you.
This Order of the Emperor group sounds interesting, if I might ask a couple of questions and dispense some advise; Was he even aware of your existence ? I'm not sure I approve of people who imply they have the support of the Emperor in their actions without actually having it... That's something you earn, not something you claim for yourself without permission.
Rubs me the wrong way when people presume more than they have the right to, like when PIE used to imply their word was that of the Empire, and not just working in what they perceived to be its best interests, they stopped doing that soon enough once it was pointed out, but one really must be careful about such things.
Presuming to speak on behalf of the Empire, presuming to work with the blessing of the Emperor (if we had one) is not acceptable if you have not earned the right and do not have the blessing of those you claim to represent.
I don't see how you can be an "Order of the Emperor" unless he knows of your existence and you have his blessing, please correct me if I'm being too hasty here.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.11.23 10:25:00 -
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Tyrrax, your words might carry some weight if you yourself did not have a history of blasphemy and treason.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.11.23 16:04:00 -
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Anybody suggesting my words do not carry weight is a fool.
Are you a fool Rodj ? I suppose you are, maybe in the future you should keep in mind that accusations are merely that and not Judgements.
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.11.23 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Anybody suggesting my words do not carry weight is a fool.
Your words carry about as much weight as my fedo's droppings. -
Just a simple warrior.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.11.23 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Anybody suggesting my words do not carry weight is a fool.
Your words carry about as much weight as my fedo's droppings.
I'm not surprised you would know the specifics of Fedo *****, fool.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.11.23 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Anybody suggesting my words do not carry weight is a fool.
Are you a fool Rodj ? I suppose you are, maybe in the future you should keep in mind that accusations are merely that and not Judgements.
Do you deny that in the past you have acted against the wishes of the Emperor?
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Viscount Theron
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Posted - 2005.11.23 16:35:00 -
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Quote: "This Order of the Emperor group sounds interesting, if I might ask a couple of questions and dispense some advise; Was he even aware of your existence ? I'm not sure I approve of people who imply they have the support of the Emperor in their actions without actually having it... That's something you earn, not something you claim for yourself without permission."
The Order has existed over the reigns of several Emperors of Amarr. Only recently have we emerged from the shadows and exposed our inner workings to those less worthy. The answer is YES the Emperor or one of his royal court has always known of our existence in one form or another. Not so much directly but rather in terms of reputation. Our actions are solely for the glory of the holy throne of Amarr and thus the fact we've not been ordered to cease activities by those we support indicates a level of acceptance. The last Emperor, Doriam II, was not directly aware of The Order however several of His court we're aware. As we indicated working in shadows allows one to stay mostly unknown.
Rest assured though we do not claim to speak for the Empire or the Emperor. We are however supporters of the Holy Throne of Amarr and will lay down our lives to protect it. Those in the royal court who support our actions will always remain anonymous up to and including the Emperor Himself. To most we do not exist. That is fine with us.
Things now have changed however and this is why we have appeared. A new Emperor is needed and it is our desire one be ordained by God as soon as possible. Changes are coming that will reveal new dangers to Amarr and the throne. The very way of life we enjoy as Amarrians could be at risk. We must be prepared.
Quote: "Rubs me the wrong way when people presume more than they have the right to, like when PIE used to imply their word was that of the Empire, and not just working in what they perceived to be its best interests, they stopped doing that soon enough once it was pointed out, but one really must be careful about such things."
One of The Order has a family member in PIE. I must say I have never noticed PIE indicate they speak for the Empire only that they are the Defenders of the Empire. That is enough to earn the respect of The Order. Like PIE we of The Order of the Emperor work for one purpose only. The survival of the Holy Throne of Amarr. Petty politics and bickering matter little to us. Our agenda is simple. We support the throne in ways we see fit without the constraints of "traditional" Amarrian politics.
As for you Tyrrax Thorrk while a shrewed businesswoman we of The Order are aware of your alliances with less desirable people who obviously are without God. I would suggest you pray for the forgiveness of God and renounce all evil you once aligned yourself with. We have heard reports of backroom dealings with the terrorist Hamish and while we do not speak for the Empire we are not pleased as I am sure most Amarrians would not be. If these rumors are false or true we do not know. They are disturbing nonetheless.
Perhaps a public apology for your past indescretions and a pledge you will support the Empire with your vast wealth and spirit would be sufficient? It would be viewed positively as a first step by those of faith. We of The Order of the Empire always welcome back to the Empire those who have sought repentence before God and pledged support to the Holy Throne and our Emperor. While in this dark time the Throne is empty we pray it will soon be occupied again by a representative of God who will rule Amarr with a firm hand and a loving heart.
Viscount Theron
In His name thy will be done
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.11.23 17:45:00 -
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I must commend you, Viscount Theron, that was a very finely calculated response - one which will undoubtedly be impossible to verify in the current state of Amarrian affairs.
Much like the accusations which you place upon me, the actual answer is of little relevance, and requires a certain amount of faith to digest. Irregardless, actions and intentions speak more boldly in His kingdom than public perception. I hope you bear that in mind when disconcerning the value of appearing good, and doing good; for fear is death, and death is what awaits those who fear the occasional scornful glance.
This response does however, raise even more questions about your Order. To proclaim straying from the "traditional" Amarrian politics - while soliticing Sin and Absolution upon His most devoted followers - would require a great deal of hypocracy. Which begs the question: How does an Order of the Emperor act in the best interests of our beloved ruler when such behaviour serves no higher purpose than self-gratification? Why does an Order of the Emperor attempt to perform the function of the Theology Council?
You see, Viscount Theron, simply being in the 'Order of the Emperor' does not bestow upon you His omnipotence, nor does it bestow upon you His truth-seeing. Thus, your offer to "welcome" me back into an Empire for which you do not speak on behalf of will be met with a certain amount of animosity.
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Viscount Theron
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Posted - 2005.11.23 18:29:00 -
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Quote: "This response does however, raise even more questions about your Order. To proclaim straying from the "traditional" Amarrian politics - while soliticing Sin and Absolution upon His most devoted followers - would require a great deal of hypocracy. Which begs the question: How does an Order of the Emperor act in the best interests of our beloved ruler when such behaviour serves no higher purpose than self-gratification? Why does an Order of the Emperor attempt to perform the function of the Theology Council?"
We serve only the Holy Throne and the Emperor. How we do this is our business. Until the Emperor speaks and says he is displeased with our actions we will continue in the way we see best to defend Amarr. Our methods are controversial and we do not adhere to conventions of conduct and kindness when dealing with terrorists and other threats to Amarr. Our Empire must prevail by any means necessary. Many Amarr are skittish and unwilling to sacrifice themselves fully for the Empire. Rest assured we are not. Whatever personal mores as may have as Amarrians matter little when faced with the threats Amarr faces and the ways with which they must be confronted.
Our behavior serves no self-gratification. We are here to do a job and nothing more. In the end God and the Emperor will decide of The Order of the Emperor has been worthy or not. We believe in our cause and we believe we must do anything to protect it.
We do not perform the duties of the Theology Council. Our ties with them are through "unofficial" channels and thus of no relevance to the common man. Likewise our connection with the Ministry of Internal Order is of no importance. What is important is that we have the best interests of the Empire and the Emperor as our primary motivations. We have taken vows of poverty pledging all we own to our objective.
We walk where most Amarr would not tread doing tasks some may deam undesireable in the furthurance of our Empire. Perhaps in the future when Amarr has conquered the universe the need for The Order of the Emperor will cease and we will fade into the winds as dust upon the plains. Until that day we stand vigil walking in the shadows between the light and the darkness doing whatever we must to protect our Empire.
God save Amarr and grant us an Emperor!
Viscount Theron
In His name thy will be done
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