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NightCrawler 85 Phoibe Enterprises 790	Posted - 2013.06.25 20:01:00 - [1] - Quote reserved Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
NightCrawler 85 Phoibe Enterprises 790	Posted - 2013.06.25 20:05:00 - [2] - Quote Reserved Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
Arkenai Wyrnspire Turalyon Plus 1841	Posted - 2013.06.25 20:22:00 - [3] - Quote This looks pretty good. Have a +1 for your efforts. Sig'd.-áGallente FW best FW.
Ace Menda Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 79	Posted - 2013.06.25 20:23:00 - [4] - Quote Reserved for comment. And of course to subscribe to this thread as CCP broke the forum subscribing button again. Are you in need of some nice chat? Are you new and want some help? Look no further and join: Crazy Dutch Guy
Minmatar Citizen160812 The LGBT Last Supper 309	Posted - 2013.06.25 23:15:00 - [5] - Quote Nice info that works both ways. If you know this stuff it'll make it easier to get in corps that normally may trip you up on an interview if you intend to do all kinds of nasty and fun things to them.
Radius Prime Tax Evading Ass. 74	Posted - 2013.06.25 23:31:00 - [6] - Quote Writing a good summary about how to recruit can be a good way to meet potential recruits. I approve of this summary. Reopen the EVE gate so we can invade Serenity. Goons can go first.
Balkor Wolf Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 36	Posted - 2013.06.26 12:16:00 - [7] - Quote This is perfect for what I've been looking for =) I'm planning on starting my own corporation over the next couple of weeks or so, already got some ideas of how I want to do it, what to focus on and what not however my main concern as a former recruiter is how I get the initial members into the corporation so that it can grow from there. From my own experiences of recruiting I have found some people are less inclined to join a corporation with low numbers and so I'm thinking one of the toughest parts of starting my own corp will be getting the first 5-10 active members. If you have any advice on that kind of thing it would be greatly appreciated. Also quick shout out to your corp =P Used to be part of Probe Patrol and have flown with WiFi fairly regularly so know how awesome you guys can be =D
NightCrawler 85 Phoibe Enterprises 817	Posted - 2013.06.26 13:01:00 - [8] - Quote Going to reply to a couple of posts at the same time here First off, what Minmatar Citizen160812 said is 100% correct. The information provided will give you an idea on what a recruiter will be looking for, and you can think ahead and avoid doing the classic mistakes (such as using your main to rob your corp blind as an example ). This can also make your..adventure more interesting and challenging and i feel fairly confident when i say that it will create a higher level of excitement and satisfaction if you manage to get into a corp with a higher level of security then just some random corp that accepts anyone who applies. For the recruiters. This will happen to you if you do this long enough. At some point you will get a "bad" recruit and your corp will get robbed, your corp members blown up, harassment in corp chat or similar and you will feel like everyone is blaming you for it. Accept the fact that you got "tricked", and move on feeling a bit wiser (and hopefully a bit more paranoid), but don't let it discourage you, or fall in the trap that you turn down every recruit just because their avatar looks "mean" Now for dealing with the sense of guilt you might feel. Most of it will be in your head. Most EVE players know that this happens, and wont blame the recruiter for letting the person join. Of course they might growl a bit depending on how much stuff they lost, but you will find that in most cases the members will rally behind you as the recruiter. And if you find your self in a situation were neither the corp members, or the corp leadership is capable of understanding that you are human, you do mistakes, you should question both why you are doing the recruitment for them, and why you are in that corp in the first place. Balkor Wolf First off thank you for the shout out! When you have your corp up and running you should look us up You are correct that people will be a lot less willing to join a corp with few members, not to mention a brand new corp. Sadly there is no real way around this, expect a lot of patience from you. However you are in a better position then many that decides to start their own corp. You have previous experience from other corporations (such as PP, awesome corp, strong leadership), and you can use this to your advantage. By the sounds of it you have already done the basics, and you have an idea on what you want to do, but make sure you have both long term and short term goals. Please note that when i say long term, i mean long term, 6-12 months down the line, not 2 weeks Present these plans to your recruits, make sure they understand that you are realistic about the goal being long term. In most cases people will turn around and find somewhere else, but some enjoy the idea of helping creating something and if you show potential.. Well they want to be there from the start! However, do not promise people director roles and similar, make the members prove them self to you and the other corp members, then approach them about taking on more responsibility. Last tip. Abuse your friends and acquaintances. If you can go to a recruit and say that you have friends and support from corp X this can help convince a recruit that you are serious and have put a lot of consideration into what you are doing. Its also a nice way to get referrals. As an example, say that corp X lived in WH space they would not be able to offer anything to a recruit that is looking for 0.0, but if your corp is in 0.0 chances are high you would have a recruit coming your way. Recruiters between different corporations tend to look out for each other, so when its obvious that there is no way that the recruit will fit in with them, but they have a good attitude, the recruiter can help out both the recruit, and tighten the bond with friendly corporations. Ok one last one I quickly skimmed over this guide a while back, and its possible that you will find some useful information either in the guide i self or the replies. Good luck and thank you for the responses everyone! Im really happy the guide is well received Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
Maika Mabata State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.06.26 13:27:00 - [9] - Quote I told you thatnit was a good guide.
Balkor Wolf Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 36	Posted - 2013.06.26 14:12:00 - [10] - Quote NightCrawler 85 wrote: Lots of stuff that I don't want to spam the thread with via quoting the whole page Thanks for the response, I certainly intend on taking advantage of those I have gotton to know through my EVE Life, maybe try to get a few allies to roam with so even if there aren't corp specific ops to go on there will at least be some blues to fly with so corpies have plenty to do. I'm mostly banking on my own experience to hopefully help bring people into the corporation, I've lived in all areas of space for at least a couple of months, learned a lot of tricks of survival in nullsec and WH space that I feel confident enough to roam in there without being completely annihilated or falling for every trap in sight (Although lets face it, that can be fun too!). But yeah, I have IRL stuff to sort out, finals regarding college and all that and after that I can commit time to finally setting this up, will certainly be in contact once things are rolling.
NightCrawler 85 Phoibe Enterprises 822	Posted - 2013.06.27 10:44:00 - [11] - Quote Updated with information regarding Eve Skunk, EVE-Live and addition about communication between recruiters after a recruit is turned down. Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
NightCrawler 85 Phoibe Enterprises 835	Posted - 2013.06.30 23:22:00 - [12] - Quote Very happy i reserved that extra post now Thread updated again with information about Enjin, posted in post 5/5 as a separate category. Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
NightCrawler 85 Phoibe Enterprises 849	Posted - 2013.07.04 21:08:00 - [13] - Quote Another update under side notes about what to do after the recruit has joined your corp, for the full post Radius Prime wrote regarding what to do when someone new wants to join your corp please look here. Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
Atkins Friendly NightWatch Ind 7	Posted - 2013.07.05 15:16:00 - [14] - Quote i would be very careful on some of the common recruitment channels and forums. A lot of War Grievers troll them looking for new corps to WarDec and ransom money to end the war. This will pretty much make your corp activities null until the war is ended. Be careful.
Amyclas Lacedaemon New Order Logistics CODE. 2	Posted - 2013.07.06 11:59:00 - [15] - Quote There shouldn't be any problem with "poaching" people. Players should join the corporation that serves their best interest. You don't owe anything to your corporation. If a corporation doesn't add any value to its players, and make them more effective when organised as a formal corp, it would be better of as a social chat channel. There are many "we do everything" corps and "mining-missioning" corps that are simply a waste of your time, and are designed to farm the tax money of clueless newbies. I've heard idiots justify their taxes as "being less than what you pay in npc corps", or "we use your money to buy blueprints (to enrich the CEO?) and rent corp offices". Unless your corp is supporting full-time pvpers, meddles in pvp ship replacement programs, has an extensive jump bridge network, needs to support a lot of POSes, or buys many capital ships, it really has no business taking your money. And if it does, make sure that YOU are benefiting from your corps activities and expenditures, or you would be wasting your time. And on the other side of the spectrum: The New Order community is a great place to meet members from various null-sec and low-sec communities, it is a place where players from every corner of EVE come together and put aside their differences to take a dump on high-sec. If you want to get a leg up to get referred into an organisation that does not make its isk in high-sec, the New Order is a brilliant place to network. http://www.minerbumping.com/ We are also close to the Belligerent Undesirables community which is also a great place if you want to learn to awox, or become a war-deccer. The Belligerent Undesirables also offer apprenticeships to newbies who are just getting into the trade. Contact Psychotic Monk for details. http://belligerentundesirables.com/ Haedonism Bot's Revolutionary Front is another newbie friendly community that teaches high-sec asset denial and seizure. http://everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.sg/ Al these communities will welcome you even if you do not join one of the official corps. A chat channel and an external forum is a much better way to organize a community than using in-game corp mechanics.
Dyvim Slorm Coven of the Morrigan 144	Posted - 2013.07.06 13:24:00 - [16] - Quote Another excellent post from Nightcrawler, this really needs to be stickied in the Recruitment forum which would help a lot of new recruiters. For checking api keys this can be quite a useful little tool https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146916 Balkor Wolf wrote: snip to save space. Something I do from time to time (and there are others like me) is specifically help startup corps get going as this can be the most interesting part of a corps lifecycle so you may find it worthwhile trying to target some vets that like doing this.
NightCrawler 85 Phoibe Enterprises 859	Posted - 2013.07.06 14:26:00 - [17] - Quote Thank you for the comments guys and added a section for what programs that are suggested to use for the API keys Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
Hessian Arcturus S.W.O.R.D. Navy 218	Posted - 2013.07.07 00:46:00 - [18] - Quote Firstly, NC, epic thread. Very useful for recruiters both new and old. Also very useful for CEO's too. Secondly, Amyclas Lacedaemon wrote: Snip Doesn't your corp and alliance pride themselves on extorting clueless newbies. Just the other day three of your members were in Jouvulen (unsure of spelling on the system name) which is a noob starter system. They were sat on the undock of the only station in system red, telling people, newbies, that they weren't allowed to mine unless they paid 10million... I sat watching for nearly 20 mins until I decided to undock in a Ferox to have at them. But when I started to lock them they docked like pansies. Sharpishly they left system after I told them I had reported them to CCP for noob baiting and bumping noobs off the undock. Also, havent you just tried to hijack NC's thread to promote your own corp and forums? Nightcrawler, I'd have words if I were you... It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself.
NightCrawler 85 Phoibe Enterprises 860	Posted - 2013.07.07 01:01:00 - [19] - Quote Hessian, I'm leaving that up to the forum moderators. Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
Hessian Arcturus S.W.O.R.D. Navy 219	Posted - 2013.07.07 01:07:00 - [20] - Quote NightCrawler 85 wrote: Hessian, I'm leaving that up to the forum moderators. Just didn't know if you knew that's all But I really must say, this really is a fantastic thread. One of my RL mates is a recruiter for a large corp and I forwarded this to him. He's been recruiting for a few years now and even he admitted there were certain things that had not crossed his mind. It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself.
NightCrawler 85 Phoibe Enterprises 861	Posted - 2013.07.07 01:19:00 - [21] - Quote Hessian Arcturus wrote: NightCrawler 85 wrote: Hessian, I'm leaving that up to the forum moderators. Just didn't know if you knew that's all But I really must say, this really is a fantastic thread. One of my RL mates is a recruiter for a large corp and I forwarded this to him. He's been recruiting for a few years now and even he admitted there were certain things that had not crossed his mind. That is awesome! Please let him know that if there are things that is not included in the guide, or he feels should be mentioned, that he can let me know either here or via EVE mail so it can be included Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
Hessian Arcturus S.W.O.R.D. Navy 219	Posted - 2013.07.07 01:23:00 - [22] - Quote NightCrawler 85 wrote: Hessian Arcturus wrote: NightCrawler 85 wrote: Hessian, I'm leaving that up to the forum moderators. Just didn't know if you knew that's all But I really must say, this really is a fantastic thread. One of my RL mates is a recruiter for a large corp and I forwarded this to him. He's been recruiting for a few years now and even he admitted there were certain things that had not crossed his mind. That is awesome! Please let him know that if there are things that is not included in the guide, or he feels should be mentioned, that he can let me know either here or via EVE mail so it can be included I shall indeed pass on the message for you. It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself.

ISD Tyrozan ISD Community Communications Liaisons 89	Posted - 2013.07.07 03:06:00 - [23] - Quote Deleted post that was off-topic and consisted of recruiting attempt. Forum rule 26. Off-topic posting is prohibited. ISD Tyrozan Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department

Mara Rinn Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium 3857	Posted - 2013.07.11 00:12:00 - [24] - Quote Thank you for this lovely guide! Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players
Del Monkan Breathe. 8	Posted - 2013.07.17 08:35:00 - [25] - Quote NightCrawler 85 wrote: 4) Check their killboard. Yes, even for industrial characters who state that they never PvP. Look for questionable kills. If they have kills against their own corp members, you may be looking at an awoxer. If they have losses in shuttles/rookie ships with dozens of PLEXes in the hold, you may be looking at an ISK launderer. First off, brilliantly done. I would like to add here that a lot of people who kill corp members are not likely to post those kills to the various killboards. I've added the KillLog as a requirement when I request API keys, makes it a bit more difficult to hide.
NightCrawler 85 Phoibe Enterprises 896	Posted - 2013.07.17 20:20:00 - [26] - Quote Del Monkan wrote: I would like to add here that a lot of people who kill corp members are not likely to post those kills to the various killboards. I've added the KillLog as a requirement when I request API keys, makes it a bit more difficult to hide. This is now included in the guide. Due to space limitations I made a note about it under the final notes section (post 4/5), its a good advice and I wish i had thought about it before! So thank you, much appreciated Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
Onyx Asablot Legion Of Patriots Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 9	Posted - 2013.08.11 18:38:00 - [27] - Quote Great Guide. I've added Reddit and Eve Uni to my Corp Advert locations as well. Great post and I wouldn't mind flying with you guys sometime in the future. Onyx CEO https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=200643&find=unread http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Educational_organizations#Legion_Of_Patriots
Ines Tegator Towels R Us 342	Posted - 2013.08.12 04:29:00 - [28] - Quote Good advice. I can't count the number of corps that I reject because they hit the "lowsec" or "nullsec" filter in their corp advertisement, and then say they live in highsec mining. Or vice versa. It makes a good idiot filter for me, as a prospective applicant, but if you want recruits, don't do this. - Mission Overhaul - Bridging the PVP / PVE Gap - -áIf the game stops teaching people to fear lowsec, maybe people will start going there?
NightCrawler 85 Phoibe Enterprises 934	Posted - 2013.08.12 05:16:00 - [29] - Quote Onyx Asablot wrote: Great Guide. I've added Reddit and Eve Uni to my Corp Advert locations as well. Great post and I wouldn't mind flying with you guys sometime in the future. Onyx Thank to both you and Ines Tegator for the nice comments! Im currently on vacation in real life which means my online times will be a bit hit and miss for the next week or so, but i will forward the message to our CEO so please feel free to get in touch with him and maybe we can set something up Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
Lugalbandak Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates. 78	Posted - 2013.08.16 07:57:00 - [30] - Quote Nice guide +1 The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back

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