As for economy.... it will always balance out even if it crashes first.

Eve is fine the way it is. It means only those invested in eve stay in eve. sure, eve loses 9 out of every 10 who try it, but the one guy who stays (lets be honest with ourselves, it's probably a guy) will sub 4 accounts.

Would you be OK with it?

Would you be OK with it?

Pros:

more people
more revenue for CCP means more content (to an extent)


Cons:

more noobs

Would you be OK with it?

There's three reasons off the top of my head why EVE would suffer or be closed if it went F2P.

1. stupid repeat

2. Because F2P would only benefit a few players (i.e. those who value their time more than their money). To see why this would be the case, just look at the various 'freemium' (aka western F2P) models like LOTRO. They've often succumbed to giving away power to players rather than access to convenience and vanity items. And they still charge for expansions... So, there's no really good way to win with that being a major downside.

3. Because it would tie CCP's hands in terms of implementing new mechanics. Essentially, CCP's funding model allows it to experiment with things and get feedback from players who have already committed themselves to the game. In terms of F2P games two things fight against this experimentation: the inherent drive to grow MT and the need to keep more players happy. People got mad at CCP over Incarna and CCP got it's licks (maybe not enough, but who am I to say?), so they backed off that front a bit. With a F2P, it would have to take primacy over everything, even balancing existing mechanics, because any change in the way the game is played can mean either more players stay or more players go, thus throwing their entire projected budget out of whack.

irrelevant

Google on "eve ccp fearless" to see some of the thought that CCP has already put into microtransactions.

Fearless pdf

oh wow. its almost as though this was a

hypothetical.

remember the question here was if it COULD go F2P tomorrow without ANY changes. which means that the magic wookie monster gives CCP all the money they need. or maybe the almighty AUR store makes 10 billion dollars in immediate revenue when all the worlds richest people decide that they need 10,000 monocles for their toons.

the purpose here was to address the stigmas and considerations of a F2P player community and its potential growth and change under a hypothetical situation.

this was not an argument that suggested that CCP actually can go F2P tomorrow

You understand the FTP <> more money for CCP right?

Then you really need to go back and update your OP with your above statement.

Personally, my first reaction was that there's nothing MT related in Eve that could sustain the game, so "f2p without any changes" would fail immediately.

Pros:

more people
more revenue for CCP means more content (to an extent)

Would you be OK with it?

Pros:

more people
more revenue for CCP means more content (to an extent)


Cons:

more noobs

EDIT:

there is now a mythical wookie that lives in the dead sea, and upon the decision of CCP to go F2P, rose up and completely fixed every problem that removing the subscription fee would cause regarding PLEX and funding. he has generously donated his 2 billion dollar fortune in goat heads and cheddar wiz to fund all further content.

the point of this is to discuss the community based ramifications of a F2P model as none of us can actually know whether a successful F2P model is possible (we don't have the accounting books)

well technically if EVE went F2P tomorrow the giant wookie monster could rise out of the dead sea and consume the world.

but since we can probably safely assume that even though the game is free people will still pay CCP money for in-game currency. an increase in players would result in an increase in revenue.

also, remember the little part of this topic that said

WITHOUT ANY CHANGES

that means no changes at all.

EDIT:

also, could we maybe get some reasons why it would kill EVE

maybe some logic. or maybe a thought or two.

even if its just a "the nooblord 12yo basement dwelling neckbeards will ruin it. I being a man who was never a noob OR 12."

agree to disagree we do need more players..
having such an incredible an awesome game that is Eve online and always wanting to keep it just for our-self is bad..

Here's the thread so far

OP: what if EVE could go F2P without changing anything, would that be OK?

idiot masses: it can't

OP: i know it actually can't but the point was not whether it can or cannot but whether it would be ok IF IT COULD.

idiot masses: it cant

semi intelligent people who can read: i don't want it to

OP: why?

idiot masses: it can't

so im just going to take my one response and assume everyone else either hates F2P because they hear a hot button word and their knee jerks out their own skull, or because they can't understand the purpose of a hypothetical.

In my humble opinion... if CCP can incorporate more interactivity with planets/stations/environments they could completely lock down the entire MMO industry.

Heh. Your inability to clearly communicate your hypothetical doesn't necessarily make everyone else an idiot.

Relax, learn from your mistake, and move on. It happens to the best of us.

Here's the thread so far

OP: what if EVE could go F2P without changing anything, would that be OK?

idiot masses: it can't

OP: i know it actually can't but the point was not whether it can or cannot but whether it would be ok IF IT COULD.

idiot masses: it cant

semi intelligent people who can read: i don't want it to

OP: why?

idiot masses: it can't

so im just going to take my one response and assume everyone else either hates F2P because they hear a hot button word and their knee jerks out their own skull, or because they can't understand the purpose of a hypothetical.




i stand corrected

that's two reasons despite the fact that this sucks and has no real reasoning behind it.

but at least he can read