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Zeet A'Dron
New Artisian and Mercenary Association
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Posted - 2011.10.24 11:37:00 -
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I watch a lot of science documentaries. One of my favorite categories is comosology. It is important to understand that we live in an era of cosmic exploration like none other. We have learned so much over the last 10 years, 5 years, even 6 months that is either new or differs from what we beleived before.
Eve is a game product based in space. I wish there could be more evolution of the game reflective of what the universe might actaully look like.
I wish Eve could be more representitive of the types of stellar objects we would find in space based on the modern golden age of cosmology. I know some work has been done in wormholes to provide local effects from stellar objects but Eve could do so much more with the idea. I encourage those at CCP who are responsible for the creative direction to go on a 6month docu rampage.
ex.
most star systems in the observable universe are in binary pairs.
Gas giants dont form near the sun (but maybe they can move)
I want to live on an asteroid in a captains quaters.
Does anyone else feel there are opportunities to put more "space" into Eve? |
Mallak Azaria
Legacy 13
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Posted - 2011.10.24 11:39:00 -
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Zeet A'Dron wrote:
I want to live on an asteroid in a captains quaters.
There's a few of these stations around. |
Katsumi Kaminari
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Posted - 2011.10.24 11:45:00 -
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What solar system does the Flying Spaghetti Monster reside in? 
In blossom today, then scattered:
Life is so like a delicate flower.
How can one expect the fragrance
To last forever?
- Vice Admiral Ohnishi, Kamikaze Special Attack Force |
Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2011.10.24 13:07:00 -
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Katsumi Kaminari wrote:What solar system does the Flying Spaghetti Monster reside in?
HERESY! BURN THE WITCH!!!
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Josefius
Caldari Elite Force
Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2011.10.24 13:09:00 -
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I "space" out a lot, does that count? |
De'Veldrin
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.10.24 13:33:00 -
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Zeet A'Dron wrote:
Does anyone else feel there are opportunities to put more "space" into Eve?
Of course there are, and there always will be. However, Eve is, first and foremost a game, so game play and things that make people want to play the game come first. |
BLACK-STAR
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Posted - 2011.10.24 13:43:00 -
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I want to see unique dwarf planets in the systems. They would be rogue moons or slightly larger than our Earth moon, and would be a good conquerable resource.
Unique moons, not just one same standard looking moon everywhere. Enceladus (ߦí+¬ß¦ï+¬), a moon above Saturn, has the the largest ever discovered geysers in our the solar system, it shoots plumes of water into space and gives a blue aurora.
there is some other things CCP could do, these environmental changes are a super low priority. After the new nebula that might be it for a long time.
[img]http://www.imgbox.de/users/S7AR/star.png[/img] |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.10.24 13:49:00 -
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Zeet A'Dron wrote:most star systems in the observable universe are in binary pairs. Funnily enough, all k-space systems are binary systemsGǪ according to the lore. Yes, it doesn't really show when you're out and flying, but still GÇö the lore has it that star gates can only be built in binary systems, so there you go. 
Quote:Gas giants dont form near the sun (but maybe they can move) If they move, they will stop being either giants or gas. But this is roughly on the same level as some of the EVE stars being older than the universe and all thatGǪ so meh,
Quote:I want to live on an asteroid in a captains quaters. Already possible.
To your list, I would add that EVE should have actual asteroid belts, and that the collections of rocks we now have should be renamed as Gǣdebris fieldsGǥ (or possibly planetary rings). Actual asteroid fields are so sparse that you'd need a warp engine to get from one rock to the nextGǪ
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you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.24 14:12:00 -
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I'd like to see another 'Cold' Energy Wave sweep through the entire Eve Universe again and refreeze the old melted snowballs while adding more new frozen snowballs as well.
My Snowball Launcher has too much dust on it.
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March rabbit
Ganse
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.10.24 14:22:00 -
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Eve is not about space or something.... Eve is a game about griefing. And it have enough of stuff for it doesn't it? |
Eternum Praetorian
PWNED Factor
The Seventh Day
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Posted - 2011.10.24 14:32:00 -
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Zeet A'Dron wrote:
Gas giants dont form near the sun (but maybe they can move)
Quote:Tippia: If they move, they will stop being either giants or gas[quote]
[quote]WikiWarrior: Because of the limited techniques currently available to detect extrasolar planets, many of those found to date have been of a size associated, in our solar system, with gas giants. Because these large planets are inferred to share more in common with Jupiter than with the other gas giant planets, some have claimed that "Jovian planet" is a more accurate term for them. Many of the extrasolar planets are much closer to their parent stars and hence much hotter than gas giants in the solar system, making it possible that some of those planets are a type not observed in our solar system
Oh snap...
Internet has proven one of Tippa's post inaccurate, and quite possibly... entirely incorrect 
Rho oh...
Ofc these planets my not be gaseous at all, but it is in style to exaggerate unknowns for personal gain on these forums!
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.10.24 14:37:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Oh snap... Internet has proven one of Tippa's post inaccurate, and quite possibly... entirely incorrect Not really, no.
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GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Eternum Praetorian
PWNED Factor
The Seventh Day
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Posted - 2011.10.24 14:41:00 -
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Quote:Hot Jupiters, like so many of the known exoplanets, should not exist so close to their stars according to our model of formation, so how did they form? Although it is not known for sure, one possibility is that these hot Jupiters formed farther from their parent star and migrated inward to a smaller, more eccentric orbit.
Oh no he didn't!
So really... yea.
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Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.24 14:50:00 -
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Zeet A'Dron wrote:I watch a lot of science documentaries.
You do know that most "science" documentaries are pretty much pseudo-science right, embellished for entertainment value?
If you want binary systems that are displayed in space, come to w-space. We have lots of binaries. We also have blackholes. And on very rare occasions one may come back to their POS to find it half eaten by a blackhole.
Tippia, I could have sworn I've read that they have found gas giants very near to their respective stars. I won't pretend to be an expert here, nor have I researched the issue in depth. I just always assumed the measurements they're getting are flawed since it's a relatively new field of science and that there are missing elements in their observations that are leading them to conclude such. IDK. I'm just doing a little watercooler talk here.
We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.10.24 14:52:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:So really... yea. Not really, no.
Look at their wording.
Also look at yours.
So no. You were sooo close, but stumbled due to over-reach.
It's really cute that I have my very own stalker, though. Better luck next time.
Mr Kidd wrote:Tippia, I could have sworn I've read that they have found gas giants very near to their respective stars. They have, but we have no idea how they're formed, and moving them around will cause all kinds of things to happen with the planet.
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you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Eternum Praetorian
PWNED Factor
The Seventh Day
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Posted - 2011.10.24 14:55:00 -
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Mr Kidd @
What is happening is that the large Jovian-like planets, nearer to their stars, are exerting a greater gravitational pull onto their parent stars. The resulting effect is a perceivable wobble of the star that can be detected via redshift. They are finding more of these simply because they are the easiest to find.
It is possible that all stars have planets of some kind in orbit around them, even if it is just icy protoplanets that look more like asteroids.
Tippia
I was kind of making a joke, but at this point you are really making me wonder... There are clearly Jovian-like planets nearer to stars (and lots of them) that are most likely gaseous with a differing chemical composition? So I can't help but look at you now and go Whaaa? 
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.10.24 15:01:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:I was kind of making a joke, but at this point you are making me wonder. There are clearly Jovian-like planets nearer to stars (and lots of them) that are likely gaseous and have a differing chemical composition? So I can't help but look at you now and go Whaaa? What you should do is look at your joke and see if you can spot the three words that made you miss the markGǪ 
Yes, for once, I will accept the Gǣyou're playing with semanticsGǥ cardGǪ 
And anyway, as they mention themselves: we have no idea how they're formed, and while there's some conceivable possibility of them moving around, this will cause all kinds of things to happen, especially if we're talking about gas planets. Changes in size and composition are (as far as we knowGǪ but then again, we don't really know in this case) highly likely results.
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GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.10.24 15:03:00 -
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Zeet A'Dron wrote:
Gas giants dont form near the sun (but maybe they can move)
Most of the extra-solar planets so far discovered are gas giants orbiting close to their stars.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Froz3nEcho Sarain
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.24 15:05:00 -
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Perfect supercap fix! Bring in the black holes!
~ When everything fades away, an echo is the only sound that will remain ~
-á-á~ Chaos is a name for any order that produces confusion in our minds ~ |
Eternum Praetorian
PWNED Factor
The Seventh Day
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Posted - 2011.10.24 15:09:00 -
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While we are on the subject
People do not realize how the solar wind effects atmospheric composition. The earth loses a great deal of it's lighter elements like Helium and Hydrogen everyday, because the solar wind blasts it away. The theory is that one of the larger contributing factors to Venus' hostile atmosphere was actually the solar wind and not it's distance to the sun.
In that instance the atmosphere actually became much more dense, hot, foggy and composed of sulfuric acid. Should this happen to a Jovian type world, it would likely deflate to some small degree... but what would be left could be an exceedingly dense atmosphere composed of heavier gasses and vapors (like Venus)
The metallic Hydrogen core could probably remain intact indefinitely.
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The Offerer
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.24 15:32:00 -
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Zeet A'Dron wrote:Does anyone else feel there are opportunities to put more "space" into Eve?
Yes, I would love to see some more "exotic" stuff (including dancers in CQ  ), but as I see it, the best possible way for this game to progress is something like this:
- Fixing the core part of EVE that waited for too long (balancing issues, bugs, lag [time dilation], UI and polishing the never finished content). This is very important because if we have a solid ground and a neat game without many burning problems, we can play it for a long time and find ways to generate enough player created content so that the developers can dedicate to something else.
- Multiplayer Incarna aka. Establishments. This step is important for CCP as well. If the sky is clear and the game sails on calm waters (resolved in the previous step), the developers can focus on making Establishments as something that will once again show what CCP's dev team is capable of. Establishments are important to players because after having an enjoyable in-space core experience, the next logical step is immersion. They are also important for CCP because of the vanity items microtransactions that don't affect the gameplay, but can and will generate extra profit for the company if the prices are right.
- Expanding the Universe and adding additional content, like asteroid habitats, comets, binary systems, etc. as a mind blowing expansion for a game that already solved the issues from the first step and connected the players to it through the second step. After that, the sky is the limit.
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Inari Kobayashi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.24 15:42:00 -
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I like the sentiment - the EVE universe does appear a little samey - hopefully the new nebulae will help on this front.
I would like to see more variety in stations and systems - would also be great to have more unique stations/ areas of EVE that could give those areas more of a sense of identity.
What about bringing in ringworld or other large habitable structure beyond a mere station. Stations near habitable planets could be connected via a space elevator (now that we have these for PI it seems a little odd not to have them for stations)
I know the lore may have to evolve to accomodate but no reason why this shouldn't happen. |
Barbelo Valentinian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.24 16:10:00 -
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Zeet A'Dron wrote:
Does anyone else feel there are opportunities to put more "space" into Eve?
Well there are more important things to do right at the moment, but I think there's lots of this stuff that could come as cosmetics later.
A few binary systems here and there wouldn't go amiss, for sure. Pulsars and other weird space objects would be cool too. But I guess at this stage, the known part of the galaxy is what it is; that sort of stuff would have to come in any new expansions into new space.
The new nebulae should give a more "realistic" feel - they look much more like what we see through Hooble.
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