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branodn lee
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Posted - 2005.11.30 09:15:00 -
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Edited by: branodn lee on 30/11/2005 09:19:16
i am a mission runner full time and have started to notice that the security increase's are getting worse in frequincy. as in today i did a total of 7 lev4 missions solo and got 3 security increase's for .8, .09, .09, so how is this right in any posable way. is anything ever going to be done about this. its simply a wast of time to keep you security status about .0 anymore. you kill one persone ship and then it takes you the next 4 weeks + to get it back. if anyone else thinks this is just nuts please state it. i think ccp should go back to the old way or if the increase system is bugged then get it fixed. but in more then 8 hrs you only get 3 increases is nuts by any means.
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Wizzkidy
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Posted - 2005.11.30 09:22:00 -
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If you do the crime do the time?
Saying that I'm at -3.3 and it is taking me an age to get back up to a decent level. do you see me moaning? Nope.
Does it not increase your sec rating for the highest rat you kill within 15 minutes and thats the only sec increase you get in that time? I could be wrong but thats how I thought it works.
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branodn lee
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Posted - 2005.11.30 09:26:00 -
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ya well if it worked that way then i would have more then 10 increase in the last 3 days
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.11.30 09:43:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 30/11/2005 09:43:02
 Originally by: Wizzkidy
If you do the crime do the time?
Saying that I'm at -3.3 and it is taking me an age to get back up to a decent level. do you see me moaning? Nope.
Does it not increase your sec rating for the highest rat you kill within 15 minutes and thats the only sec increase you get in that time? I could be wrong but thats how I thought it works.
It is how it is meant to work, but various people (including the OP) are indicating that it is broken.
If you listened to people instead of flaming them, maybe you would garner a better understanding of how the game is actually working?
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branodn lee
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Posted - 2005.11.30 09:47:00 -
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thank you for saying that avon. but yes there are days once in a great while that its working great. ill get like 20 or more in 7-8 missions but thats rare.
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Button Racer
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Posted - 2005.11.30 09:48:00 -
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What missions did you get though? Not all mission drones give sec standings, afaik it is just the main pirate faction rats that give the increases. Others like rogue drones or mercs don't. |
F'nog
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Posted - 2005.11.30 09:48:00 -
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My mission runner hasn't had a sec increase from a mission in over a year.
Originally by: rowbin hod
Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage.
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StOrM ViPeR
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Posted - 2005.11.30 09:50:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Edited by: Avon on 30/11/2005 09:43:02
Originally by: Wizzkidy
If you do the crime do the time?
Saying that I'm at -3.3 and it is taking me an age to get back up to a decent level. do you see me moaning? Nope.
Does it not increase your sec rating for the highest rat you kill within 15 minutes and thats the only sec increase you get in that time? I could be wrong but thats how I thought it works.
It is how it is meant to work, but various people (including the OP) are indicating that it is broken.
If you listened to people instead of flaming them, maybe you would garner a better understanding of how the game is actually working?
Err I thought that Was how it did work and it doesn't look like wizzkidy flamed anyone.
Sorry Mr BoB , Sorry, sorry /me Slinks back behind rock away from BoB |
V2GBR
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Posted - 2005.11.30 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: Wizzkidy
If you do the crime do the time?
Saying that I'm at -3.3 and it is taking me an age to get back up to a decent level. do you see me moaning? Nope.
Does it not increase your sec rating for the highest rat you kill within 15 minutes and thats the only sec increase you get in that time? I could be wrong but thats how I thought it works.
Correct the biggest kill from the 15 minutes goes to the sec hit.
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branodn lee
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Posted - 2005.11.30 09:53:00 -
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correct the drone missions and most other none pirate npc missions dont give security increases but i do missions for the repulic fleet and thats for the most part angels.
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.11.30 09:59:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 30/11/2005 09:59:34
Originally by: StOrM ViPeR
Originally by: Avon
Edited by: Avon on 30/11/2005 09:43:02
It is how it is meant to work, but various people (including the OP) are indicating that it is broken.
If you listened to people instead of flaming them, maybe you would garner a better understanding of how the game is actually working?
Err I thought that Was how it did work and it doesn't look like wizzkidy flamed anyone.
Sorry Mr BoB , Sorry, sorry /me Slinks back behind rock away from BoB
Like I said, it is how it is meant to work.
However, lots of people have commented recently that they haven't got and sec increase at all, rather than the largest one every 15 minutes.
If that is the case, the system isn't working as intended.
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Wizzkidy
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Posted - 2005.11.30 10:07:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Edited by: Avon on 30/11/2005 09:43:02
Originally by: Wizzkidy
If you do the crime do the time?
Saying that I'm at -3.3 and it is taking me an age to get back up to a decent level. do you see me moaning? Nope.
Does it not increase your sec rating for the highest rat you kill within 15 minutes and thats the only sec increase you get in that time? I could be wrong but thats how I thought it works.
It is how it is meant to work, but various people (including the OP) are indicating that it is broken.
If you listened to people instead of flaming them, maybe you would garner a better understanding of how the game is actually working?
Err you call that a flame, you aint seen nothing then  Yea it might not be working correctly, but by what I did read it sounded like a small moan about how long it DOES take. Jesus if you think thats a flame go read other peoples posts as you will find mine is like dining with fine wine compared to them.
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branodn lee
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Posted - 2005.11.30 10:12:00 -
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sorry mr. wizz if i didnt make it clear. im not saying anything about how long it takes to get back but just the fact that the increase's are not comeing as they should. sorry
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Wizzkidy
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Posted - 2005.11.30 10:14:00 -
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Edited by: Wizzkidy on 30/11/2005 10:14:50
Originally by: branodn lee
sorry mr. wizz if i didnt make it clear. im not saying anything about how long it takes to get back but just the fact that the increase's are not comeing as they should. sorry
I also applogize if i miss read your post  , interesting though cause I have noticed its taking me along time but I thought this was normal.
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branodn lee
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Posted - 2005.11.30 10:17:00 -
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hey mate no hard feelings here but yea i was under the impresion that it was a increase every 15min for the biggest bounty npc you killed but its not working so i was trying to find out if anyone has heard of anything being done about it. and if there is nothen being done then why shouldnt all people turn pirate since you cant seem to get any security back.
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Cilppiz
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Posted - 2005.11.30 10:34:00 -
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By the time I raised my standings against Concord by +1 shooting rats in 0.0 my friend got his up by 0.2 by doing lvl4 and lvl3 kill missions. Addition to this my friend played twice as much as I did...
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V2GBR
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Posted - 2005.11.30 10:36:00 -
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I have been away to long, AVON BoB !!!111
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.11.30 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: V2GBR
I have been away to long, AVON BoB !!!111
You back for good, or just visiting?
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Numeram
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Posted - 2005.11.30 11:08:00 -
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Mission security increased have been nerfed to hell.
The idea probably being that you need to take some risk to get your sec rating back up, in 0.0.
If you belthunt in 0.0 it already improves, but the best thing by far is doing complexes in 0.0 regularly, or killing officers afaik. The overseers and officers seem to give great increases.
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.11.30 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: Numeram
Mission security increased have been nerfed to hell.
The idea probably being that you need to take some risk to get your sec rating back up, in 0.0.
If you belthunt in 0.0 it already improves, but the best thing by far is doing complexes in 0.0 regularly, or killing officers afaik. The overseers and officers seem to give great increases.
Kinda sucks for people who have a -sec, but neither the tools, the skills, or the opportunity to chain npc's in 0.0
I still think there needs to be an alternative method of increasing sec rating. It doesn't need to be easy or fast, but it should be possible for everyone.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.11.30 11:26:00 -
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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 30/11/2005 11:26:09
Agreed.
Let's turn cargo missions into a way to get your sec rating up.
I mean, that's worse then being in friggin prison, so why not ?
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.11.30 11:36:00 -
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there is nothing wrong with manufacturing missions a quick way to boost sec with a faction without damaging others ie amarr killing minmatar and the LP is nothing to sneeze at ISK is pretty dodgy but the NPC trade goods - mienral requirements keep the mineral sellers going as well
Just because it isnt PVP rob blaine doesnt mean its not a valid part of the game
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Wizzkidy
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Posted - 2005.11.30 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Kinda sucks for people who have a -sec, but neither the tools, the skills, or the opportunity to chain npc's in 0.0
I still think there needs to be an alternative method of increasing sec rating. It doesn't need to be easy or fast, but it should be possible for everyone.
Agreed, I find it VERY difficult, Ok yes I have been a bad boy in the past. I'm not able to take trips to 0.0 all the time infact very rarly so its very very difficult for me to increase my sec status. Then again maybe this is how its ment to be, can't argue with that
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.11.30 12:06:00 -
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Originally by: sonofollo
there is nothing wrong with manufacturing missions a quick way to boost sec with a faction without damaging others ie amarr killing minmatar and the LP is nothing to sneeze at ISK is pretty dodgy but the NPC trade goods - mienral requirements keep the mineral sellers going as well
Just because it isnt PVP rob blaine doesnt mean its not a valid part of the game
Faction standing and sec have nothing to do with each other.
Run hauling missions until you die and your sec status will not improve.
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Spy4Hire
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Posted - 2005.11.30 12:40:00 -
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Edited by: Spy4Hire on 30/11/2005 12:40:30
Originally by: Numeram
but the best thing by far is doing complexes in 0.0 regularly, or killing officers afaik. The overseers and officers seem to give great increases.
Unfortunately, complexes are static, run on a known timetable, and in low-sec or 0.0 are camped/pharmed by the same 5 or 10 two+ year old players in top tier equipment. Even if you're blue they blast to smithereens if you try to run 'their' complex.
CCP did not think that one through at all when they implemented it.
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V2GBR
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Posted - 2005.11.30 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: V2GBR
I have been away to long, AVON BoB !!!111
You back for good, or just visiting?
Oh im back for the long haul :)
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branodn lee
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Posted - 2005.11.30 21:52:00 -
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ok so has anyone seen any thing from the gms or anyone on this topic then that says they know its broke and is there anything they will or can do to fix it.
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