I am guessing that now would be a good time to GTFO.

Monthly Subs FTW.

EA doesn't listen to anyone, period. All that time I was on their forums IF an EA representative posted anything was to post some official message. One sided convo only.

But it's the one game company that doesn't ban you for posting your views. That is not the case of MMO sites, which would ban if you sneezed.

But it's the one game company that doesn't ban you for posting your views.

the fact that there's now an EA VP in CCP's board or that we have someone as Ace Uoweme in the game?

It's funny that after the mintchip crazyness, people on GD still think they have a say in who CCP hire. It's like people think they are shareholder or something in here.

Wouldn't this move (hiring the EA guy) lead to higher PLEX prices because more players are going to spend their ISK on PLEXes rather than paying subs?

I know that I for one don't feel compelled to inject any money right now and may start PLEXing once my subs run out...

Maybe that's the problem? That they want it to be at least as big and as deep and as lasting as EVE, and it's stumbling out of the gate? Hey, here's this guy who, as Jester points out, has experience with shooters and all kinds of payment models including free-to-play, and has experience getting teams to work together and share technology! Remember, CCP does not want DUST to be considered as entirely separate from EVE. Their vision, from Fanfest, is of a seamless, interconnected universe. Getting DUST pointed that way means that he has to coordinate with EVE devs in Reykjavik, too.

Also, Jester notes that most of EA's games use the same engine. CCP Atlanta forked CARBON recently. I'm sure their reasons are good, but I'll bet you anything that he'll try to get the various bits of CCP to share as much as possible to keep development costs down. Also, there would be certain possibilities if the WoD team's work on CARBON was folded back into EVE. *cough*

There's no particular reason to despair. Not yet. If he's an AWOXer, he's a really good one.

EvE suffers two fold. It remains a niche game, which hampers it's ability to pay for itself; and it's a warren full of players who multibox and don't want to pay for it. You don't hear of Blizzard micromanaging the costs, because they don't need too. Even if 3 million players leave tomorrow, they still have enough to keep production rolling.

Because it works...

http://battlefield.play4free.com/en/frontpage/landingPage

Only really works for small games. And only because they don't have enough humans paying.

Get to WoW size, a company can profit handsomely solely on the subscription model, and selling cosmetics. If a star pony can get a company 25 million dollars the next day...literally...who needs the inconsistency of micro transactions?

No.

If you brought F2P to WoW, it's dead (because all the games that tried to beat WoW are F2P now...SWTOR and RIFT included). Only GW2 doesn't, as it operates on buying the box and selling cosmetics, like FPS games.

In WoW think, F2P = failed game.

And GW2 is but a blip on WoW's radar.

Any game (and this will be EvE included) if they compete with WoW, Blizzard will implement it's best features into WoW. They did it with GW2 with the red knockout on the bars. They did it with RIFT and AoE looting (and now the loot system...terrific!!!). So returning players will get the same benefits they enjoyed in those games, now in WoW.

Blizzard keeps players continuely in the store. Stocking the shelves of every content that is deemed worthy.

They do all this because they have so much cash, they can and support 2 other IPs with it too.

CCP can barely support EvE and it's their main title. They need more players.

Be careful when throwing around statements like, "not before losing a large chunk of veteran players"

If I was looking at the performance of Battlefield Heroes or whatever crappy casual free-to-play game was going, and knew about the nasty social environment of EVE veterans being the second or third biggest turn-off for new players, I would regard losing a large chunk of veteran players as A Good ThingGäó, if the inflow of new accounts more than compensated for the accounts shut down by the exiting bitter vets.

Then in two years when the income was at an all time high, gender balance at 45/55, we weren't receiving hundreds of complaints daily about sexual harassment, and lowsec was actively populated by people having adventures, I would look back at the decision to go Free-To-Play and thank myself for making that difficult decision.

Seriously, that is what goes through my head when I see people winding up that "ultimate ultimatum."

"Oh, you are threatening to quit if we do X? CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! We will do X in such a way that you will like it so much that you get your friends to subscribe too!"

I would love to get a merry band of paladins to march into Blizzard HQ and kick Ghostcrawler out of his Ivory Tower (like Aeralik got kicked from EQII), but after what that Warlock dev said about Blizzard HQ, the culture there adores him and he's protected. He came to be what he is when WotLK was released (2008) and it's been downhill since.

Can't be another WOW clone, Blizzard kills any direct competition.

How do you offset the blobs?

By getting real humans into the game.



Now learn what is successful and what is not , and not be another clueless dinosaur ready for extinction.

Because PLEX is not a micro transaction right? Let's see.

Pay real $$$

Recive in game item you can use for various function.

I wonder what's missing for it to be a micro transaction.

As soon as PLEX entered the game, it opened the door for it. Yes, it helped to deter selling ISK, but it's now a form of the very thing it tried to prevent...players buying ISK, just like F2P games do it with selling ingame gold.

I play WoW and EvE. Can't go back because I'm already there.

Which may not be an option for you even, since it seems you like to be kicked from EVERY game you prefer to destroy.

Signed,
A Multi-gamer

TL:DR True face of CCP - "Crowd Control Productions" - Group of university graduates intensely brainwashed with capitalistic/sociopathic business practice theories, lacking a creative vision, who think they are intellectually superior to the crowd that feeds them, because they can effectively delude and milk them, without actually delivering any game content.

If the only kind of content you cant think of is fantasy themed, then your creative vision/ ability to create some is as good as CCP's. EVE is a sci-fi universe game, therefore, it's content is sci-fi themed.

Hum, interesting. I'm kinda curious now, could you please tell me... do these "tools" and "player content" of yours include anything besides war waging corporations and their tools to exploit asteroids, moons, planets in a capitalist fashion race for profit? Maybe a little programming gimmick or sume number crunching with a new photoshop colorful picture on top that you call an "expansion"?

I'm sorry to disapoint you but having a "sandbox" kind of game doesnt mean it needs to be filled with capitalistic entities only.

Just to give you an example, a newcomer in this game is automatically formated to be a part of a Corporation, ruled by a CEO, pay taxes and be a sheep. Why should I be forced to be a part of something like this? I dont even like corporations! What if i want to be a tribe member, an anarchic group punk, a gangster or a pirate? (remove the square, we want triangles, circles and spirals too lol)

The empty sandbox you play in is a mirror to the creativity, productivity and mentality of the people working on it. There is much that can be added to it inside its theme, things that have been asked thousands of times by the playerbase before (more ships,modules, playable alien races and pirate factions,alien technology,modular poses,walking in stations, populated planets etc).

lol Yet again your claiming that the reason CCP doesnt deliver content is because they're out of resources, and not because they don't want to or are incapable of.

Has it ever crossed your mind that maybe they should hire more content designers/artists/sci-fi writers instead of weasels like this? What exactly will this guy bring to the game? More spam messages asking you to buy **** that you already have for free now or dont really want/need?

The way to stabilize your game if its having trouble is to deliver an exceptional one, not try to convince people with cheap marketing tricks that they should play it.

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lol dude im the one who plays Guild Wars

(i'm not even gonna tell you how the pve can be fun in that game, with the players constantly finding new ways to speed clear dungeons and instances and challenging the devs into making them harder with new mobs, mechanics, etc... this is way too much sand for your truck... lol)