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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.03 10:48:00 -
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Kult Altol wrote:Yah the paladin is like the only good reason. But why fly a paladin when you can fly a nightmare?
I meant, paladins as a class not a ship.
Amarr is a religious faction, and the foot soldier of the religious is the crusader...the paladin.
Devs make them extremely difficult to level, and look like they hate them with a passion with what they can do to them in games (Blizzard even took their armor away or put it in the worst raids ON THE LAST BOSS WITH EXTREMELY LOW DROP RATES).
But if you love the class and like how they play (and/or their role), endure it. Worth all the tea in China. All the others can brag about their pewpewpew, a paladin will be the last standing anywhere holding ground to win. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Praetor Meles
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
139
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Posted - 2013.07.03 11:01:00 -
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ner00n wrote:is a great brall ship
That's the best misspelling of "brawl" I've seen. So far. +1! [insert random rubbish that irritates you personally] is further evidence that Eve is dying/thriving*
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Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2013.07.03 11:12:00 -
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Kult Altol wrote:We are stuck in em/therm damage pattern.
So, Caldari/Gallente is stuck with kin/therm with their hybrid turrets. CCP, me wants hybrid ammo with em and/or explosive damage!
Also T2 projectile ammo is limited to expl/kin.
Quote:Our drone ships are not suited for pve very well.
My Dragoon, Prophecy and Geddon NI would like to have a word with you. Haven't tried Geddon with cruises yet. Probably good lazy mode mission ship.
Quote:Tank got nerfed, the one ting that really made amarr shine.
Like already mentioned, the "one thing" that makes Amarr ships shine is level 5s in every relevant skill (tanking, guns/missiles, support, etc.). |
Artirei
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
7
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Posted - 2013.07.03 11:31:00 -
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Kult Altol wrote:I been training amarr since I started playing almost two years ago.
And yes all and all I do feel short changed compared to other races. We are stuck in em/therm damage pattern.
Our drone ships are not suited for pve very well.
Tank got nerfed, the one ting that really made amarr shine.
Super slow ships.
Restrictive BS fittings, you NEED cap rigs. And med slot cap mods.
Most pvp corps I've been really don't use amarr.
Honestly if I knew now when I first started I wouldn't have made amarr.
I think this is CCP's Idea, they want you to get another account, because lets face it you have spent to much time training already. So they make you get another one for a different race and they make more moneys :) |
Andrea Griffin
509
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Posted - 2013.07.03 11:34:00 -
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Kult Altol wrote:I been training amarr since I started playing almost two years ago.
[...]
Restrictive BS fittings, you NEED cap rigs. And med slot cap mods.. Let me tell you a little secret about using Amarr ships for PvE. I, too, used to fill my rig slots with CCCs, my mids with cap rechargers, and even a cap power relay or two in the lows. But then Liang Nuren came along and whispered something into my ear:
USE A CAP BOOSTER, YOU BONEHEAD. WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?
Suddenly, I only needed one mid slot for capacitor and all of the other slots could be dedicated to damage, rate of fire, tracking, and range enhancements. My mission times went from Zero to Hero.
True story.
Secret #2: If you don't feel like buying and hauling cap boosters to your mission system, put up a generous buy order. CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer. |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
340
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Posted - 2013.07.03 11:36:00 -
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I guess all of the people who made the Foxcat/Abaddon/AHAC doctrines should be told that their ships and builds are crap.
Oh, and the Revelation says hi. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
554
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Posted - 2013.07.03 11:50:00 -
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Alesha Bau wrote: MINMATAR LIES.
Go back to your cave
If you want to play as the Blessed Race, you need to be born into it
The only thing worthwhile is your blood and your slave-sweat
Oh wait, you are Minmatar
Get out " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
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tamaz
Viziam Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.07.03 11:55:00 -
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We have God on our side, you are supposed to be praying fervently every time you fly into combat.
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Brother Mercury
Fire on the Mountain
2
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Posted - 2013.07.03 12:48:00 -
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Andrea Griffin wrote:
Crusader
Mal[e]diction
Vengeance
Sentinel
Purifier
Zealot
Curse
Pilgrim
While I don't disagree that these ships are useful (meh about crusader), it seems very odd, doesn't it, that all these ships rely on ewar, or are built around speed (zealot) to be effective? It's telling that you don't name a single Amarr ship that utilizes the race's main themes; namely, to be an armor tanking, laser brawler.
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Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:09:00 -
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Brother Mercury wrote:namely, to be an armor tanking, laser brawler.
Punisher Maller Harbinger / Harbinger NI Absolution Armageddon NI Abaddon |
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
554
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:11:00 -
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Brother Mercury wrote: Purifier
Quote: all these ships rely on ewar, or are built around speed (zealot) to be effective?
Are you simple? " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
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King Aires
Coffee Sipper's Club Biggby Coffee Fan Club
24
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:26:00 -
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Hmmmm....
I can't of anything worse than being a racist besides being a racist of a digital and imaginary race of people who exist only in the story-line of an online video game.
As you were. |
Brother Mercury
Fire on the Mountain
2
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:37:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Brother Mercury wrote: Purifier
Quote: all these ships rely on ewar, or are built around speed (zealot) to be effective?
Are you simple?
I know a bomber is different, just got lazy. It's still not "amarrian" per say - most bombers are identical except for the nemesis, which blows. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
554
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:39:00 -
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Brother Mercury wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Brother Mercury wrote: Purifier
Quote: all these ships rely on ewar, or are built around speed (zealot) to be effective?
Are you simple? I know a bomber is different, just got lazy. It's still not "amarrian" per say - most bombers are identical except for the nemesis, which blows.
Well its Amarrian because its slot layout blows and is completely dump for an Amarrian fit, so in that way it is :D " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
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Brother Mercury
Fire on the Mountain
2
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:40:00 -
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Tobias Hareka wrote:Brother Mercury wrote:namely, to be an armor tanking, laser brawler.
Punisher Maller Harbinger / Harbinger NI Absolution Armageddon NI Abaddon
Punisher - yes, it's better.
Maller, still sucks.
Harbinger - OK now. Let's not even talk about the Navy BCs; they all blow, except for maybe Nay Brutix.
I see so many absolutions flying around.
Thanks to last pass over BSs, there's no reason to fly an Abaddon when you have 8 lows in a Megathron. Also, Rokh. Using 2 or all your rig slots just to be able to fire your weapons, and still for barely any useful amount of time, is why Abaddon is worse than the Rokh and Mega. |
Brother Mercury
Fire on the Mountain
2
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:42:00 -
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*double post fail* |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
554
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:44:00 -
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Brother Mercury wrote: Punisher - yes, it's better.
Maller, still sucks.
Harbinger - OK now. Let's not even talk about the Navy BCs; they all blow, except for maybe Nay Brutix.
I see so many absolutions flying around.
Thanks to last pass over BSs, there's no reason to fly an Abaddon when you have 8 lows in a Megathron. Also, Rokh. Using 2 or all your rig slots just to still get less capacitor to fire your weapons, whilst being slower, is why Abaddon is worse than the Rokh and Mega.
Maller - ARE YOU MAD its one of the best T1 tanks that exist!
Why ignore how much better the Apoc is now?
And no, the Abaddon is NOT worse than a Rokh. Sorry,but no " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
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Brother Mercury
Fire on the Mountain
2
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:48:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Brother Mercury wrote: Punisher - yes, it's better.
Maller, still sucks.
Harbinger - OK now. Let's not even talk about the Navy BCs; they all blow, except for maybe Nay Brutix.
I see so many absolutions flying around.
Thanks to last pass over BSs, there's no reason to fly an Abaddon when you have 8 lows in a Megathron. Also, Rokh. Using 2 or all your rig slots just to still get less capacitor to fire your weapons, whilst being slower, is why Abaddon is worse than the Rokh and Mega.
Maller - ARE YOU MAD its one of the best T1 tanks that exist! Why ignore how much better the Apoc is now? And no, the Abaddon is NOT worse than a Rokh. Sorry,but no
Says the many, many Abaddon fleets roaming New Eden. Last time I saw an Abaddon fleet was quite awhile ago. Rokh, Mega - the new BS gods. |
Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:52:00 -
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Brother Mercury wrote:Thanks to last pass over BSs, there's no reason to fly an Abaddon when you have 8 lows in a Megathron. Also, Rokh. Using 2 or all your rig slots just to be able to fire your weapons, and still for barely any useful amount of time, is why Abaddon is worse than the Rokh and Mega.
Abaddon never had 8 low slots... |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
554
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:53:00 -
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Brother Mercury wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Brother Mercury wrote: Punisher - yes, it's better.
Maller, still sucks.
Harbinger - OK now. Let's not even talk about the Navy BCs; they all blow, except for maybe Nay Brutix.
I see so many absolutions flying around.
Thanks to last pass over BSs, there's no reason to fly an Abaddon when you have 8 lows in a Megathron. Also, Rokh. Using 2 or all your rig slots just to still get less capacitor to fire your weapons, whilst being slower, is why Abaddon is worse than the Rokh and Mega.
Maller - ARE YOU MAD its one of the best T1 tanks that exist! Why ignore how much better the Apoc is now? And no, the Abaddon is NOT worse than a Rokh. Sorry,but no Says the many, many Abaddon fleets roaming New Eden. Last time I saw an Abaddon fleet was quite awhile ago. Rokh, Mega - the new BS gods.
You roam in a Rokh? Other than to SB-Camp gates that is? " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
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Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
419
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:58:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Alesha Bau wrote:Honestly what do amarr do better than any other race? Get blown up a lot and fail at everything, which is exactly the way CCP wants it. This is nothing new: They did the same thing back in SWG, because Lucas was so offended that anyone would dare to play Imperial so they had to keep nerfing the Empire into oblivion. America's Army, when it first came out, let you play as the "insurgents" - but then people actually started doing that, and worse, winning; which didn't mesh with the game's whole reason for existing (ergo, as a propaganda/recruiting gimmick for the US military). Or you could just go look at Warcraft itself, where the pure blond aryan Alliance battles against the innumerable poorly disguised bad ethnic stereotypes of the Horde. It's simple: The big boss says "The guy on that side reminds me of that guy who banged the girl I wanted, so make his side lose" and the devs must then make it happen. If you don't believe me, go browse the Live Events section for a while. Dev bias is an ancient tradition of the industry, so no reason to waste breath one's breath trying to make it change - because it won't. Ever.
I loved playing as Opfor in AA =( "Never rub another man's rhubarb." -Joker in Batman (Jack Nicholson) Just get a catalyst, blow him up and the post in local "Just a friendly reminder that I'm mining here and not you." -Abrazzar
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Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
419
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:01:00 -
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Kult Altol wrote:I been training amarr since I started playing almost two years ago.
And yes all and all I do feel short changed compared to other races. We are stuck in em/therm damage pattern.
Our drone ships are not suited for pve very well.
Tank got nerfed, the one ting that really made amarr shine.
Super slow ships.
Restrictive BS fittings, you NEED cap rigs. And med slot cap mods.
Most pvp corps I've been really don't use amarr.
Honestly if I knew now when I first started I wouldn't have made amarr.
Strangely enough my Amarr pilot doesn't have any problem flying a Drake or a Vexor =) "Never rub another man's rhubarb." -Joker in Batman (Jack Nicholson) Just get a catalyst, blow him up and the post in local "Just a friendly reminder that I'm mining here and not you." -Abrazzar
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Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
419
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:18:00 -
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Kult Altol wrote:This is personal experience.
My friend has equal SP with me. He flies a Tengu and steam rolls l4s, gets them done faster, and more efficiently. No changing the fit, no doing anything different. Can aggro a whole entire room.
I fly a Paladin, perfect armor tanking skills, perfect laser skills, I have to change hardeners every mission, I have to manage aggro, I have to move around. I have to use em/therm crystals. I only have enough room in my drone bay for maybe two types of drones.
I really don't care that he can do it 10 times easier. More power to him. Lore wise it doesn't make sense. A Marauder is meant for deep space long term combat. A Tengu is a tiny little cruiser.
Meh, my two isk,
inb4 doing missions wrong, cherry picking missions, HTFU, consequences, anything people say to shut down arguments with clever like quips. Fact of the matter is Amarr is too rigid. If they added the ability to change DPS type it would make it better.
Try a legion? Tons of nice HAM fits out there (I prefer scorch myself).
I mean, if you are going to compare cruisers... "Never rub another man's rhubarb." -Joker in Batman (Jack Nicholson) Just get a catalyst, blow him up and the post in local "Just a friendly reminder that I'm mining here and not you." -Abrazzar
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Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
419
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:22:00 -
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Brother Mercury wrote:Andrea Griffin wrote:
Crusader
Mal[e]diction
Vengeance
Sentinel
Purifier
Zealot
Curse
Pilgrim
While I don't disagree that these ships are useful (meh about crusader), it seems very odd, doesn't it, that all these ships rely on ewar, or are built around speed (zealot) to be effective? It's telling that you don't name a single Amarr ship that utilizes the race's main themes; namely, to be an armor tanking, laser brawler.
I was sad the maller didn't get mentioned.
Try a double plated maller with small t2s and harass some FW frigates.
It's good fun =) "Never rub another man's rhubarb." -Joker in Batman (Jack Nicholson) Just get a catalyst, blow him up and the post in local "Just a friendly reminder that I'm mining here and not you." -Abrazzar
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Juno Libertas
Pawnstars INC The Fendahlian Collective
373
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:27:00 -
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Kult Altol wrote:This is personal experience.
My friend has equal SP with me. He flies a Tengu and steam rolls l4s, gets them done faster, and more efficiently. No changing the fit, no doing anything different. Can aggro a whole entire room.
I fly a Paladin, perfect armor tanking skills, perfect laser skills, I have to change hardeners every mission, I have to manage aggro, I have to move around. I have to use em/therm crystals. I only have enough room in my drone bay for maybe two types of drones.
I really don't care that he can do it 10 times easier. More power to him. Lore wise it doesn't make sense. A Marauder is meant for deep space long term combat. A Tengu is a tiny little cruiser.
Meh, my two isk,
inb4 doing missions wrong, cherry picking missions, HTFU, consequences, anything people say to shut down arguments with clever like quips. Fact of the matter is Amarr is too rigid. If they added the ability to change DPS type it would make it better.
You are doing it wrong. I rake in 100 mil ISK / hour using my napoc fit and no I won't share with whiners. Using Paladin? Nice pretty ship but you are better off blitzing L4s and looting them in your noctis later on.
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Barron Hammerstrike
RISK Inc.
30
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:27:00 -
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Space Juden wrote:CCP is clearly applying some sort of Affirmative Action in their formulas on racial balance.
there is no old system anymore |
Herr Esiq
Dirt Nap Squad
54
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:28:00 -
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OP is probably still angry because he bought a Paladin for Angel space.. |
Brother Mercury
Fire on the Mountain
2
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:33:00 -
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Tobias Hareka wrote:Brother Mercury wrote:Thanks to last pass over BSs, there's no reason to fly an Abaddon when you have 8 lows in a Megathron. Also, Rokh. Using 2 or all your rig slots just to be able to fire your weapons, and still for barely any useful amount of time, is why Abaddon is worse than the Rokh and Mega. Abaddon never had 8 low slots...
This is me on no coffee. My point is still valid, for the reason that the Mega got an 8th low.
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Brother Mercury
Fire on the Mountain
2
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:35:00 -
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Herr Esiq wrote:OP is probably still angry because he bought a Paladin for Angel space..
I thought everyone had that "damage type" text in their bio. Shame. |
Medarr
ZeroSec
65
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:18:00 -
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You guys are forgetting some things.
Archon - only carrier that can tank a DD. Aeon - one of the more prolific supers next to the nyx due to its insane amount of EHP. Revelation - Does decent DPS, instantly swaps ammo to keep optimal and tanks. |
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