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Tixam Quri
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
39
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Posted - 2013.07.03 21:05:00 -
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I'm bored and I want to suicide gank someone...
If I understand correctly, CONCORD response times are slower as sec level drops?
If this is the case, then 0.5 systems are prime for suicide ganking?
Also, If I'm successful and finish the kill before CONCORD arrives.
If I leave my ship will CONCORD:
a) pod me or,
b) blow up my empty ship or,
c) both?
Really just curious if it's possible to survive pulling off a gank in Hisec, and if so what the technique might be.
Thanks :D
Jafit McJafitson-
"try scamming people. it's like PvP, but with words. Their greed is your warp scrambler, your lies are your autocannons."
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Bruce Bayne
The Red Circle Inc.
25
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Posted - 2013.07.03 21:18:00 -
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Hello,
yes concord will start killing you after approx 20 seconds after you do your illigal thingy in 0.5 systems.
They will only kill your ship...very effectively^^
They will leave your pod alone, but keep in mind that any player in eve can kill your pod now anytime for 15 minutes.
Also if you undock in a ship while having the criminal flag concrod will kill you again...so wait out the timer or warp around in your pod.
A good guide you can see here http://www.minerbumping.com/p/blog-page.html or on the eveuni pages, regarding timers.
Also the new order guys are atm the way to go for highsec ganks. There are other groups like miniluv? or something from goons, but you need to be alliance member.
In the new order you get your ship replaced and you dont even need to join any corp or anything. Just kill stuff and have fun :)
Its like a ganking community if you like to call it that way. |
Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
59
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Posted - 2013.07.03 21:20:00 -
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CONCORD will never pod you (but players might).
You cannot leave your ship while you have a criminal flag.
Tixam Quri wrote:Really just curious if it's possible to survive pulling off a gank in Hisec If you manage to find a way to save your ship from CONCORD, your account will be banned, so you'll lose much more than just your ship. |
Bruce Bayne
The Red Circle Inc.
25
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Posted - 2013.07.03 21:21:00 -
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Thomas Builder wrote:CONCORD will never pod you (but players might). You cannot leave your ship while you have a criminal flag. Tixam Quri wrote:Really just curious if it's possible to survive pulling off a gank in Hisec If you manage to find a way to save your ship from CONCORD, your account will be banned, so you'll lose much more than just your ship.
This.
Also keep in mind that you cannot leave your ship while having a criminal timer. You will be "scrambled" system wide, so you cant even warp away...all you can do is wait to get killed by concord and then warp the pod away.
So you want to suicide only ships you can afford to replace. So throwawayships are the way to go if you want to do it for a longer period of time. |
Tixam Quri
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
39
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Posted - 2013.07.03 21:22:00 -
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Thomas Builder wrote:CONCORD will never pod you (but players might). You cannot leave your ship while you have a criminal flag. Tixam Quri wrote:Really just curious if it's possible to survive pulling off a gank in Hisec If you manage to find a way to save your ship from CONCORD, your account will be banned, so you'll lose much more than just your ship.
So mandatory loss of ship. Got it.
Thanks :D
Jafit McJafitson-
"try scamming people. it's like PvP, but with words. Their greed is your warp scrambler, your lies are your autocannons."
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Tixam Quri
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
39
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Posted - 2013.07.03 21:23:00 -
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Bruce Bayne wrote:Thomas Builder wrote:CONCORD will never pod you (but players might). You cannot leave your ship while you have a criminal flag. Tixam Quri wrote:Really just curious if it's possible to survive pulling off a gank in Hisec If you manage to find a way to save your ship from CONCORD, your account will be banned, so you'll lose much more than just your ship. This. Also keep in mind that you cannot leave your ship while having a criminal timer. You will be "scrambled" system wide, so you cant even warp away...all you can do is wait to get killed by concord and then warp the pod away.
Hence the term "suicide gank",
Thanks :D
Jafit McJafitson-
"try scamming people. it's like PvP, but with words. Their greed is your warp scrambler, your lies are your autocannons."
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Amyclas Amatin
New Order Inspectorate for Mining Permits
131
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Posted - 2013.07.03 21:39:00 -
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If you join the New Order, we will reimburse your lost ships.
For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit:
http://www.minerbumping.com/
High-Sec has a future, But do You? Buy a Mining Permit to Secure yours today. |
Tixam Quri
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
39
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Posted - 2013.07.03 21:46:00 -
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Amyclas Amatin wrote:If you join the New Order, we will reimburse your lost ships.
I appreciate the info. It's good to know there are corps for this type of activity.
If (when) I start doing this it will be on my PLEXED alt I'm skilling up for PVP.
I will be missioning/exploring on this capsuleer with my wife and don't want to destroy my sec status.
Thanks!
Jafit McJafitson-
"try scamming people. it's like PvP, but with words. Their greed is your warp scrambler, your lies are your autocannons."
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Bruce Bayne
The Red Circle Inc.
25
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Posted - 2013.07.03 21:56:00 -
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Tixam Quri wrote:Amyclas Amatin wrote:If you join the New Order, we will reimburse your lost ships. I appreciate the info. It's good to know there are corps for this type of activity. If (when) I start doing this it will be on my PLEXED alt I'm skilling up for PVP. I will be missioning/exploring on this capsuleer with my wife and don't want to destroy my sec status. Thanks!
You dont need to have a dedicated alt on another account for that.
You can use one of the character slots.
After only 8 hours you can sit in a catalyst and use the guns and you do like 200 dps.
I myself made a char. trained it 5 days. now i pull off over 430 dps overheated in meta 4 fitted catalysts.
And as it is a under 900k sp char you dont even need to upgrade your clones, nor do you care about te security status as it is designed to have a low one :)
Just saying. So pause training on your main for 5 days and you have a shiny new gank character.
*Captain obvious warps away* |
Tixam Quri
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
39
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Posted - 2013.07.03 22:20:00 -
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Bruce Bayne wrote:You dont need to have a dedicated alt on another account for that.
You can use one of the character slots.
After only 8 hours you can sit in a catalyst and use the guns and you do like 200 dps.
I myself made a char. trained it 5 days. now i pull off over 430 dps overheated in meta 4 fitted catalysts.
And as it is a under 900k sp char you dont even need to upgrade your clones, nor do you care about te security status as it is designed to have a low one :)
Just saying. So pause training on your main for 5 days and you have a shiny new gank character.
*Captain obvious warps away*
It is an alt. I meant that I had PLEXED an alt, good to know hes got over a 1mil SP atm. 
I'll be trying it asap, just don't get a lot of time to log on...
Jafit McJafitson-
"try scamming people. it's like PvP, but with words. Their greed is your warp scrambler, your lies are your autocannons."
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Hesod Adee
Turalyon Plus
35
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Posted - 2013.07.03 22:23:00 -
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Tixam Quri wrote:[quote=Amyclas Amatin]don't want to destroy my sec status.
If your sec status gets too low, you can buy pirate tags off the market then turn them in at specific stations to get your sec status back up. I'm not sure of the details though. |
Amyclas Amatin
New Order Inspectorate for Mining Permits
131
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Posted - 2013.07.03 23:17:00 -
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what bruce said. You can consider using a 10 hour hero, or getting a dedicated alt account. 10 hour heroes work fine, every extra bit of dps counts.
For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit:
http://www.minerbumping.com/
High-Sec has a future, But do You? Buy a Mining Permit to Secure yours today. |
Gaellia Bonaventure
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
1173
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Posted - 2013.07.04 00:38:00 -
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Hesod Adee wrote:Tixam Quri wrote:[quote=Amyclas Amatin]don't want to destroy my sec status.
If your sec status gets too low, you can buy pirate tags off the market then turn them in at specific stations to get your sec status back up. I'm not sure of the details though.
I've seen this before and I am wondering. How do you "turn in" the tags?
Bring your possibles. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Late Night Alliance
2830
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Posted - 2013.07.04 02:01:00 -
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Something that people above seemed to have missed...
DO NOT try to evade CONCORD's response/retribution if you have incited it. Doing so is considered an exploit and will be swiftly met with the banhammer.
Other than that... suicide gank away!
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
BoSau Hotim
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
5892
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Posted - 2013.07.04 05:02:00 -
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Ganking is a blast.
Here are a few tips:
1. If you fit and skill right you can have time to even pod your victim in .05 space. You lose sec status for each: ship and a little bit higher sec status hit for a pod. The person you pod has a 30 day kill right on you. It means they can activate the KR at any time or even sell it to anyone, any corp, or all EvE players.
2. I would skill thermodynamics if I were you. Then you can set everything to overheat, that way you do maximum damage quicker and may get that pod. Set the overheat before you even warp to your target.
3. Cloaky alts are super to have in these cases, or even cloaky friends. They can covertly fly right over your target and then you can warp to him at zero if you are fleeted.
4. Practice what you are going to do in your head. My first gank was frikkin' hilarious and a total fail, the second one was good, and the third one my m8 accidentally targeted me and blew up my ship. Fun Times my friend!
5. If your target has drones out and they are set to aggressive then your target will have you on their kb because their dreones will attack you unless they are busy killing rats.
I'm not a carebear... I'm a SPACE BARBIE!-á Now... where's Ken? |
Don Purple
Snuggle Factory
17
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Posted - 2013.07.04 06:36:00 -
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Tixam Quri wrote:I'm bored and I want to suicide gank someone...
If I understand correctly, CONCORD response times are slower as sec level drops?
If this is the case, then 0.5 systems are prime for suicide ganking?
Also, If I'm successful and finish the kill before CONCORD arrives.
If I leave my ship will CONCORD:
a) pod me or,
b) blow up my empty ship or,
c) both?
Really just curious if it's possible to survive pulling off a gank in Hisec, and if so what the technique might be.
Thanks :D
I suggest the new order very much :D or you can come fly with me for a bit and get your first few kills :).
Send me a mail in game I'll even supply your first few ships |
Tixam Quri
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
39
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Posted - 2013.07.04 09:25:00 -
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Love all the responses and helpful info. Awesome community 
I was wondering if I would just get flamed for posting such a topic. I can't wait to get started!
Jafit McJafitson-
"try scamming people. it's like PvP, but with words. Their greed is your warp scrambler, your lies are your autocannons."
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Tixam Quri
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
39
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Posted - 2013.07.04 09:28:00 -
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Gaellia Bonaventure wrote:Hesod Adee wrote:Tixam Quri wrote:[quote=Amyclas Amatin]don't want to destroy my sec status.
If your sec status gets too low, you can buy pirate tags off the market then turn them in at specific stations to get your sec status back up. I'm not sure of the details though. I've seen this before and I am wondering. How do you "turn in" the tags?
I have actually wondered that myself.
Jafit McJafitson-
"try scamming people. it's like PvP, but with words. Their greed is your warp scrambler, your lies are your autocannons."
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Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
438
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Posted - 2013.07.04 09:53:00 -
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Gaellia Bonaventure wrote:Hesod Adee wrote:Tixam Quri wrote:[quote=Amyclas Amatin]don't want to destroy my sec status.
If your sec status gets too low, you can buy pirate tags off the market then turn them in at specific stations to get your sec status back up. I'm not sure of the details though. I've seen this before and I am wondering. How do you "turn in" the tags?
Take the tags to one of the Concord stations scattered through lowsec. At the station you can select the Security Office station service to trade the tags and some ISK for a sec status increase.
Full details - http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/wanttotrade-tags-for-security-status/ |
Velarra
253
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Posted - 2013.07.04 16:57:00 -
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Down this route of thought: While Concord will kill a "criminal" and evasion of that kill is banable, - IF you manage to take out a single Concord ship while they're firing on you, do highsec Concord ships drop Concord tags? (A la Blockade in npc null) |
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
848
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Posted - 2013.07.04 17:23:00 -
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Velarra wrote:Down this route of thought: While Concord will kill a "criminal" and evasion of that kill is banable, - IF you manage to take out a single Concord ship while they're firing on you, do highsec Concord ships drop Concord tags? (A la Blockade in npc null)
Pretty sure that i read somewhere that Concord will not drop anything at all, and concord has also been buffed to prevent any chance of anyone actually taking them out after a small..incident in Yulai years and years ago 
Edit; However you can take out the npc ships that will travel between stations in high sec (haulers) and last time i did this (years and years ago) this was not a bannable offense, and they would drop random junk (trade goods and similar) but you got a really bad faction standing hit. Concord would not interfere but if you were to close to the station the guns would agress you and you would have the 15 minute timer. Note i might be remembering things wrong since its been so long, and things might have changed.
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BoSau Hotim
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
5965
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Posted - 2013.07.04 18:38:00 -
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NightCrawler 85 wrote:Velarra wrote:Down this route of thought: While Concord will kill a "criminal" and evasion of that kill is banable, - IF you manage to take out a single Concord ship while they're firing on you, do highsec Concord ships drop Concord tags? (A la Blockade in npc null) Pretty sure that i read somewhere that Concord will not drop anything at all, and concord has also been buffed to prevent any chance of anyone actually taking them out after a small.. incident in Yulai years and years ago Edit; However you can take out the npc ships that will travel between stations in high sec (haulers) and last time i did this (years and years ago) this was not a bannable offense, and they would drop random junk (trade goods and similar) but you got a really bad faction standing hit. Concord would not interfere but if you were to close to the station the guns would agress you and you would have the 15 minute timer. Note i might be remembering things wrong since its been so long, and things might have changed.
You can go after the convoys with trade goodsand blow them up, they may or may not have ships in that convoy to attack you. Station guns do not pop you. They drop trade goods which dont' amount to much isk- but might be a good amount for noobs. You take a substantial hit to faction standings which will affect your missioning standings if you choose to mission for that faction.
( Night - I know you already kow a lot of this, just putting it out therre for others)
I'm not a carebear... I'm a SPACE BARBIE!-á Now... where's Ken? |
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