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Rynn Vendran Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 30	Posted - 2013.07.05 01:10:00 - [1] - Quote Working my way up to my first battlecruiser, any recommendations? Was thinking about the Hurricane but heard that they changed the stats on it so it's not as good as it used to be? Primary use would be mission running (security) and PvE with PvP to follow. Feel free to suggest good fits too, every bit helps! Thanks! Hey now, hey now now, sing this corrosion to me...
Zhilia Mann Tide Way Out Productions 1349	Posted - 2013.07.05 01:25:00 - [2] - Quote How are your fitting skills? I'd tend to prefer something like this: [Hurricane, L3s] Dark Blood Power Diagnostic System Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Gyrostabilizer II Experimental 10MN Afterburner I Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Explosive Deflection Field II 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion M [empty high slot] Medium Core Defense Field Purger I Medium Core Defense Field Purger I Medium Core Defense Field Purger I It would be totally fair to drop the third gyro and downgrade the faction PDU to two T2 PDUs; that would also let you upgrade to a T2 extender. Otherwise there are plenty of viable 425 fits as well. Like this: [Hurricane, L3s 425] Tracking Enhancer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Gyrostabilizer II Experimental 10MN Afterburner I Large Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Explosive Deflection Field II 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M [empty high slot] Medium Core Defense Field Purger I Medium Core Defense Field Purger I Medium Core Defense Field Purger I Higher paper DPS, awful range. Much easier to fit though. If you happen to have better missile skills, the Cyclone is probably the way to go. Consider something like this: [Cyclone, L3s] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Gyrostabilizer II Co-Processor II Large Shield Booster II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II EM Ward Field II Experimental 10MN Afterburner I Large Peroxide Capacitor Power Cell 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I Damage is comparatively anemic, but it has pretty solid application. Which helps.
Whitehound 1504	Posted - 2013.07.05 01:56:00 - [3] - Quote [Hurricane, ACs+Armor+MWD PvP] Damage Control II Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste Reactive Armor Hardener Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Medium Projectile Ambit Extension I Medium Projectile Ambit Extension I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Warrior II x5 Warrior II x1 769 DPS at 1.5km (in-the-face distance) including drones, repair rate is 138 eHP/s (179 eHP/s overheat). With Repl. Fleet Phased Plasma M and Optimal Range Script does it go out to 21km with 698 DPS, which at the falloff still gives 388 DPS. Barrage M takes the falloff to 32km with a reduced damage of 326 DPS. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Hakaimono Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly 170	Posted - 2013.07.05 02:17:00 - [4] - Quote Tornadoes are great too for sniping. Pretty high alpha with a rack of 1400s. Although it requires you to train large guns so save that gem for later.
Tsukino Stareine The Red Circle Inc. 442	Posted - 2013.07.05 02:22:00 - [5] - Quote Whitehound wrote: stuff try to read the OP before giving out fits. New player won't be anywhere near to any of those fits plus they wanted something for pve first.
Whitehound 1504	Posted - 2013.07.05 02:41:00 - [6] - Quote Tsukino Stareine wrote: Whitehound wrote: stuff try to read the OP before giving out fits. New player won't be anywhere near to any of those fits plus they wanted something for pve first. Rynn Vendran wrote: ... Feel free to suggest good fits too, every bit helps! Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Tsukino Stareine The Red Circle Inc. 442	Posted - 2013.07.05 02:49:00 - [7] - Quote relative but: is the fit good if it has little relevance to the person requesting it :D? Also I don't consider your fit good for almost anything. Giant explosive damage weakness and the AAR is not very effective apart from very rare occasions.
Whitehound 1504	Posted - 2013.07.05 02:56:00 - [8] - Quote Tsukino Stareine wrote: relative but: is the fit good if it has little relevance to the person requesting it :D? I have a question for you, too: why don't you ask the OP? Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Chessur Life of lively full life thx to shield battery 84	Posted - 2013.07.05 06:14:00 - [9] - Quote Rynn Vendran wrote: Working my way up to my first battlecruiser, any recommendations? Was thinking about the Hurricane but heard that they changed the stats on it so it's not as good as it used to be? Primary use would be mission running (security) and PvE with PvP to follow. Feel free to suggest good fits too, every bit helps! Thanks! Minmitar have 1 (perhaps 2) good BC's Minny got hit with a huge nerf after the TE changes. Best minny ships these days are the BS line. Phoon / Navy phoon / TFI / Mach However for battlecruisers: 1. AC tornado. Great for PvE and amazing for PvP [Tornado, New Setup 1] Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Warp Disruptor II 800mm Repeating Artillery II, 800mm Repeating Artillery II, 800mm Repeating Artillery II, 800mm Repeating Artillery II, 800mm Repeating Artillery II, 800mm Repeating Artillery II, 800mm Repeating Artillery II, 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I 2. Hurricane FLEET ISSUE: Projection is ****, but its still an ok boat. It deals with light tackle much more easily than the nado. However the nado has speed / DPS / Projection [NEW Hurricane Fleet Issue, New Setup 1] Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Power Diagnostic System II Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Rynn Vendran Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 31	Posted - 2013.07.05 07:13:00 - [10] - Quote This is all good info, some I can use now, some which will help me plan things out as I move ahead. No bad answers, and I thank you all for sharing your ideas! Hey now, hey now now, sing this corrosion to me...

Garviel Tarrant Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 1083	Posted - 2013.07.05 07:22:00 - [11] - Quote The hurricane was overpowered Now its just pretty good. prolly still better than the cyclone i think. BYDI recruitment closed-ish
Rynn Vendran Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 31	Posted - 2013.07.05 07:23:00 - [12] - Quote Chessur wrote: Minmitar have 1 (perhaps 2) good BC's Minny got hit with a huge nerf after the TE changes. Best minny ships these days are the BS line. Phoon / Navy phoon / TFI / Mach However for battlecruisers: 1. AC tornado. Great for PvE and amazing for PvP I'm intrigued, but would the Tornado be overkill for simple mission running? I do like the aspect of having a ship I can segue into PvP with down the road... will definitely look into this... Hey now, hey now now, sing this corrosion to me...
Chessur Life of lively full life thx to shield battery 85	Posted - 2013.07.05 10:48:00 - [13] - Quote Rynn Vendran wrote: Chessur wrote: Minmitar have 1 (perhaps 2) good BC's Minny got hit with a huge nerf after the TE changes. Best minny ships these days are the BS line. Phoon / Navy phoon / TFI / Mach However for battlecruisers: 1. AC tornado. Great for PvE and amazing for PvP I'm intrigued, but would the Tornado be overkill for simple mission running? I do like the aspect of having a ship I can segue into PvP with down the road... will definitely look into this... The nado is not overkill ofr mission running. If you are really serious about mission running, then you will eventually get a Mach, and blitz missions for maximum isk making potential.
Blue Absinthe Fur Industries 11	Posted - 2013.07.05 11:23:00 - [14] - Quote At low SP you should just let your decision on whether to go turrets or missiles determine which BC you use.


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