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Lord Zim
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Posted - 2011.12.08 13:39:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Doh, CSM meeting news: Trebor Daehdoow wrote:Just a quick report on events at day 1:
Opening Meeting: Discussed the ongoing reorganization of CCP, designed to make the company better able to deliver what customers want. This means more a focus on spaceships that look good before, during and after they blow up. Not a very promising start. CCP ignored FiS for WiS for 2 years. Subscriptions started to dwindle, people were pissed on the forums. CCP regained focus on WiS, subscriptions started going back up, people were less pissed on the forums.
Gee, I wonder why they're keeping at least some focus on FiS. |
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Posted - 2011.12.08 22:28:00 -
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Actually, as long as FiS is solid and not performing seppuku on itself, WiS is a logical next step for CCP. |
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Posted - 2011.12.09 01:14:00 -
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"not a peep", as in not a single post by a dev? Is that why there's a big fat blue dev arrow pointing towards this thread? |
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Posted - 2011.12.09 02:31:00 -
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Nothing to do with intelligence and everything to do with not having the bother to go through all the 62 pages in this thread.
That, and the assumption "offtopic posts removed" wouldn't be done by a dev, but a GM. Live and learn. vOv |
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Posted - 2011.12.09 09:05:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote:and a big LOL WELP in advance for all you people with ATI card you are shite out of luck" To be fair, this happens in literally every game released the past year.
(well ok, maybe not literally every game, but it certainly keeps sounding like it) |
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Posted - 2011.12.09 16:28:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:But i wonder why 0.0 or low are so bad ,did the game changed over the years or the players wanting more? forgive me but just doing a little pvp lately sometimes in 0.0 and low,so experience on that is very low They changed the SOV system to one where a single loss by the attacker means their entire progress in a system is reset, and supercarriers and titans got a massive buff, making carriers and dreads all but obsolete, and to a certain extent subcaps which weren't dictors or cynofrigs.
Obviously the last bit is being a bit over the top and not to be taken literally, but it always sounds funny to say, while not being too far from the truth. |
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Posted - 2011.12.11 12:34:00 -
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Personally, I would say stop trying to make the tech superduper awesome, and just go for solid mechanics and then, if you must, go for graphics gee-wizzery. |
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Posted - 2011.12.11 14:10:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:about solid mechanics ,CCP made crucible a first step towards a solid mechanics playable EVE they done this in 6 weeks ,according to CCP itself Nah, they've fixed a lot of small niggly issues, added a few ships and changed a few database values in that time. I hope the next expansion will be where they make nullsec good, mechanically, so they can move on to make WiS good, mechanically.
viziel wrote:I'm not a fan of pvp, could care less about it. If you could care less about PVP, why don't you? |
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Posted - 2011.12.11 14:36:00 -
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Spoken like someone with a vast and intimate knowledge of 0.0. |
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Posted - 2011.12.11 16:29:00 -
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Confirming that The Mittani is pulling my strings. |
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Lord Zim
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Posted - 2011.12.11 17:02:00 -
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You mean boner, not wedgie, surely. |
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Posted - 2011.12.13 00:09:00 -
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Severian Carnifex wrote:About CSM... **** it... It don't represents me. So, you didn't vote? |
Lord Zim
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Posted - 2011.12.13 11:35:00 -
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Avila Cracko wrote:And even that ppl were not ranging about WiS, they were ranging about golden ammo... so 99.99% of ppl are ok with or for WiS. Are you talking about the concept of WiS, or what WiS is at this point in time? Because I think even mittens is absolutely fine, and probably even supports, the concept of WiS, what he definitely seemed annoyed with was the actual implementation. |
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Posted - 2011.12.13 12:27:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Avila Cracko wrote:And even that ppl were not ranging about WiS, they were ranging about golden ammo... so 99.99% of ppl are ok with or for WiS. Are you talking about the concept of WiS, or what WiS is at this point in time? Because I think even mittens is absolutely fine, and probably even supports, the concept of WiS, what he definitely seemed annoyed with was the actual implementation. well WiS wasnt implemented yet... One room for your character is hardly something to look forward in multiplayer game. Ambulation ... Well, CCP kept said WiS is coming, WiS is coming, and I can only assume Mittens got a look at what CCP had in store for WiS. What we got was CQ or a :foreveralone: door, it's no wonder Mittens reacted to it with scorn. Hell, no wonder there were negative reactions across the board. Add to that the gold ammo debacle, etc etc etc etc etc, and it was just a **** expansion from start to finish which pissed off, if not everybody, then at least a vast majority of the players.
Now we've got crucible, and players are mostly appeased with the direction CCP is heading in again, and it seems that the immediate danger of EVE sinking has passed, and now apparently they're done with hunting the jesus and going for solidifying the EVE experience.
I see nowhere that CCP have absolutely cancelled the idea of finalizing WiS, what I've seen is more that they realized that the game as a whole was in more danger than they'd hoped, and that they needed to concentrate on, and fix, what kept the current playerbase happy before they could carry on with their future vision. I'm fairly certain that they're still working on WiS, just at a slightly reduced rate.
Rek Seven wrote:Out of curiosity, what do the CSM do?
I though they were supposed to act as a voice for the community and relay the wants of the players to CCP but they don't seem to do much at all. I believe it's been said multiple times that the CSM is more a sounding board for CCP, but that they also try to advocate good ideas from the playerbase. There's been a few CSM reps who've put up threads asking for input on ideas to take to CCP. |
Lord Zim
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Posted - 2011.12.13 13:26:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:Lord Zim wrote: I believe it's been said multiple times that the CSM is more a sounding board for CCP, but that they also try to advocate good ideas from the playerbase. There's been a few CSM reps who've put up threads asking for input on ideas to take to CCP. Then i guess they are no really needed as they only seem communicate with the community through the forums which a lot of ppl don't use. Anyone can create a thread asking for ideas. I'm confused. What do they need to do then to satisfy you? |
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Posted - 2011.12.13 15:15:00 -
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WisdomLikeSilence wrote:THe next big thing for CCP is the integration of DUST which should be fun. After that, lets talk incarna for real. DUST will be an abortion at launch, mainly because it's for consoles. If it's ever released. |
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Posted - 2011.12.14 00:20:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote:never say never good sir might have a shittty pc-port coming our way after it fails on ps3 A ****** PC port would be just as bad as getting a blowjob from a puss-filled, disease-riddled *****. It's still a blowjob, but I'd rather abstain or use palmela handerson.
bornaa wrote:Signing that. All CSM members only look after they own ass. Implying eve players are slim enough to actually find their own ass. |
Lord Zim
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Posted - 2011.12.14 01:37:00 -
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Jojo Jackson wrote:I don't want to walk on stations.
There are enough MMOs where you can run around with your Avatar. If I want to do it, I play one of these.
Eve is "flying in space with cool ships" and not "walk around with ugly Avatars". There's a reason why CCP reverted from having CQ (or as I call it, the door) the default environment when you dock, to letting you choose between spinning your ship, or walking around in your captain's quarter so you can watch **** on the ingame TV.
This line of thought shouldn't be rocket science. |
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Posted - 2011.12.14 01:38:00 -
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ahahaha **** is seriously a banned word? what about pornography? erotica? erotic moving pictures? |
Lord Zim
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Posted - 2011.12.14 01:49:00 -
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Joshua Aivoras wrote:Please stop raging at CCP for this, it was Microsoft that made it PS3 exclusive. Fucks given: 0
It's CCP that got the brilliant idea to make a competitive console FPS, in a market which is already filled to overflowing with FPSes, with subpar controls, and expecting it to not suck dilz through a straw. If they'd said they wanted to make it for the PC, I'd actually want to play it. As it is, given how much I absolutely loathe any and all FPSes on consoles, especially competitive multiplayer FPSes, it'll be a cold day in hell before I even consider looking at DUST. |
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Lord Zim
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Posted - 2011.12.14 01:54:00 -
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Forum Fighter wrote:The current CSM Chairman does not like WiS and is determined to remake the game according to his desires, therefore- WiS is on the back burner untill you guys vote in the next CSM election and get that bum outta there. The chairman who was very positive to WiS prior to the asstastic launch that was The Door?
Gee. I wonder how that change could possibly have happened. |
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Posted - 2011.12.14 07:51:00 -
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Psychophantic wrote:Lord Zim wrote: Gee. I wonder how that change could possibly have happened.
Exposure through gaming press to feed ego? Huh? |
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Posted - 2011.12.14 11:07:00 -
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Comboduck wrote:I don't want walking in stations. Don't use it, then. |
Lord Zim
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Posted - 2011.12.14 11:14:00 -
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Amelia Ryan wrote:But stopping WiS completely, is the wrong move, i've been playing this game for 6 years, i need something new and refreshing. They released the remaining 3 CQs which weren't released in Incarna, so WiS isn't completely dead. It doesn't have nearly the same focus as before as it seems like (and I'm strongly hopeful of this) they're looking to go back and iterate on a ton of the old cruft that's been collecting for the past 6 years. This is something which, if done right, will vastly improve the game as a whole, especially if they can go back and finally make old and boring systems like mining more fun, and if they can go through their newer systems as well and remove their rougher spots. Most importantly, however, would be that CCP goes through EVE and make it into a more cohesive universe, instead of the slightly hodgepodge soup we have now. If they additionally changed their design philosophy away from making almost every UI a cockstabbing experience by default, and instead tried to make them intuitive and easy to work with so we could spend more time having fun, that'd be dandy as well. |
Lord Zim
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Posted - 2011.12.14 11:22:00 -
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Freezehunter wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Comboduck wrote:I don't want walking in stations. Don't use it, then. I am pretty sure he meant: I don't want WiS and I don't want CCP to waste development time and money on that crap they call Incarna, instead of using that time and money to fix bugs and balance **** that is already in the game. There, better? Because I am pretty sure 90% of us think like that... I certainly do. While we agree on DUST, I'm afraid we're going to have to disagree on WiS. I love the concept of it, and I think it'll make EVE appeal to a much broader customer base, and as such is still necessary. I don't think it's an important enough feature that it'll magically save EVE, so while I want it to go ahead just to get an even deeper universe, I don't want them to do this instead of, as you say, fix bugs and balance **** that's already in game.
Which is why I'm personally saying that at least the next expansion should not be focusing on WiS, maybe even the next if they realize that the backlog of broken **** to fix is huge enough that they need two expansions to fix everything. Not that I'm saying "DON'T TOUCH WIS", but at the very least it shouldn't be the main focus.
Once they've settled FiS to a more playable and dynamic state, please, do bring on WiS. |
Lord Zim
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Posted - 2011.12.14 11:54:00 -
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Fix My Lasers wrote:It will be much better if CCP spend their time on balancing races and making new ships instead of spending their time on something that no one needs. It's like very very*10^23 small group of people want it.
I used CQ for like 5 mins and never turned it on again. To be correct, none of my friends use it.
Why so serious about nothing? You used CQ for 5 minutes and then you ignored it because it adds nothing. When CCP completes WiS, it will add something. In fact, I suspect it'll add a lot, and mainly in hisec where pubbies congreate in safe havens. It's just a matter of not treating it as a jesus feature, and focusing on it to the detriment of the rest of the game.
In fact, I'd almost go so far as to say that just adding ships for the sake of adding ships is worse than not adding ships at all. If something must be added, there must be a clear and concise plan behind it, and the more ships they add, the harder it becomes to balance everything so that everything is viable in some form or another. Case in point, everything gallente the last few years. |
Lord Zim
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Posted - 2011.12.15 17:25:00 -
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Jojo Jackson wrote:Lord Zim wrote:mainly in hisec where pubbies congreate in safe havens Now I get why YOU want it. Hell, I should have known it when I saw the Ally :(. YOU just want another way to grief, gank, terrorise other people and you hope, you can suizid gank them in stations too. Whatever it is you're smoking, puff puff pass. I want to see just how ****** up my world perceptions turn with that ****, because, damn, *****.
Jojo Jackson wrote:Go and play CS .. there you have enough WiS I don't know what it's like in teenage land where you live, but up in adult land where the rest of us live, CS is old, unsophisticated and boring. vOv |
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Posted - 2011.12.16 21:00:00 -
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Ask not why. Ask instead why not. |
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Posted - 2011.12.17 01:02:00 -
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This is IMPORTANT, people! |
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Posted - 2011.12.22 15:08:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Cletus Graeme wrote:PLAY MY SANDBOX MY WAY!! Sometimes it just feels wrong to figure that this kind of players may get all of CCP's love for years to come... (insert facepalm) I'd much rather see FiS get a lot of attention now so it's actually fixed rather than semi-broke as it is now, and then possibly have attention shifted over to WiS again, than have them focus on WiS now and leave the rest of nullsec broken as it is now.
The first'll see them keep the playerbase they have, and probably increase it as well. The second'll see them lose parts of the playerbase they have now, in the hopes that WiS will be sufficiently Jesus-y to make up for it. |
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Lord Zim
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Posted - 2012.02.14 08:42:00 -
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Someone's been watching too much spartacus. |
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Posted - 2012.02.14 14:43:00 -
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Given the assumption that they've unfucked the spaceships part of EVE by then, sure, go hog wild with incarna. |
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