Yeah, pretty much this.

Someone had posted a reply about being on page #200 which is now on page #198. A couple of replies lower down I had made a comment about the parade of Goonswarm replies being posted. If I remember correctly there was quite a bit of them posting negative remarks about Issler, WiS and the CSM election. There was at least 1, maybe 2 pages worth. Now there's only a couple of Goonswarm replies posted around that time.

Anyway, don't get the idea that it was only Goonswarm, other replies were also deleted. I distinctly remember a raging forum flame war between me, Doc Fury, Taiwanistan and Ai Shun being completely deleted and later I was accused of reporting it to CCP. I never reported that so maybe someone else had reported it.

Maybe CCP just decided to step in and delete it without saying something. I don't know. One thing is for sure, CCP is actively watching this thread and has done convo with us at various times.

Anyway, I just recently received an internet email from CCP containing a forum warning stating that one of my posted replies was removed for trolling.

Me? Trolling?



Well, that warning was for posting an insulting post, or post designed to anger other players. I received that warning on 2012:03:30 @ 3:31:05 about 1 week after my reply was posted on 2012.03.24 @ 02:12:00.. The posted reply was basically me telling another player to pull their fugly head out of their Avatar's fat...........

I'm sure you all get the idea.

So now due to the recent Fanfest Fiasco and resulting events, I wouldn't be surprised to see CCP being a lot more diligent with the forum moderation.

Hahaha, I have no fear of claiming to report a post. I've done it in the past and will most assuredly do it in the future.

FYI - There were two different conversations being conducted at that time, one with Doc Fury and Ai Shun which I didn't report nor did I make any claim to do so even though I was accused of it. The other conversation was with Taiwanistan which I did report after making the claim.

Anyway, that wasn't the point of my posted reply and I don't understand why you're so fixated on it.

The main point is that due to the Fanfest Fiasco and resulting events, CCP is being a lot more diligent with the forum moderation.

Somewhere in April, I believe. We'll see if that is the case or not though

FiS news at fanfest and just few threads about it.
So, this prove that the community don't give a **** about the entire game, it's just massive trolling.
Still proud?

Give me liberty (from my pod), or give me death.

*self-destructs pod*

I can do this all night. . . what's it gonna be CCP?

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To CCP:

People are not going to like it at first, but it will be a necessary step to make WiS meaningful.

You NEED to move things out of the globally accessible UI and into 3D space as an interactive object.

- If I need to use the market, I should have to walk into station and find a market interface.
- If I need to update my clone, I should have to walk into the station's medical facility to do so.
- If I need to start / stop an industry job, I should have to go to the station's laboratory / factory.
- For agents, you should have to find the agent within the station to get their "phone number" before you can contact them.
- Corporate administration should be done in the corporation's office. (Some things you could do outside the office, but some you shouldn't.)

Some of these things can become skill-dependent, or rely on new agent functionality. Example:

- Broker Agents: If I have access to a broker agent, they will provide a market interface for me to order things. (Give a face to the "Broker's Fee".
- R&D Agents: They'll do data core research like they do now, but will also allow me to remotely manage jobs in their respective stations.

Anyway, just a few small ideas / suggestions.

Whats is meaningful to you, is role play to others.
Why games that have that system of navigation have more players than EVE?
people like to fell their character - live through it.
and you cant fell anything in clicking the same buttons that are always in the same place on the screen on the same ugly bar.

The things I posted are things to draw capsuleers out of their pods in the first place.

I mentioned them because many have reasoned that they have no use for WiS because they can do everything without even entering the Captain's Quarters.

Interaction with NPCs in stations is the only thing CCP can reliably script. Interaction between player characters should be spontaneous, and dependent on "fun" things like gambling.

For the old "eve is a spaceship game" argument, CCP has conceded that they need to focus more on the space-ship side of things until WiS is ready, but they also want an all emersive Science Fiction simulator. The best thing we can do, is give them suggestions about the things we would like to see, while not in space.

When something is put on the back burner and left there, that basically prevents it from being further developed. Also if the amount of members in Team Avatar were to be doubled or tripled, it would increase their productivity allowing them to work on other aspects for WiS game play content. Such as Player Owned Establishments, Corporate Meeting Rooms, fully functional Command Centers, Avatar PvP action, etc.

First aspect is to get multiple Avatars able to be rendered in the same area doing limited interaction without causing lag, crashing to bluescreen or worse. The Social areas like Corporate Meeting Rooms and Player Owned Establishments would easily provide that platform. When that's up and running good, then it would be time to work on the next aspect - fully functioning Command Centers. After that is up and running good, the next aspect would be Avatar PvP action.

Holding back on releasing the first aspect until the last aspect is completed and working good sounds like a full blown major expansion, which would take years to develop. Maybe I'm viewing this incorrectly but since 2012 is all centered on FiS and War Mechanics, hopefully 2013 will have the first aspect for WiS released consisting of Player Owned Establishments and Corporate Meeting Rooms.

Maybe CCP plans to release all aspects at the same time and if that's the case, then no WiS expansions probably till 2015 at the earliest.

You do realize that everyone in this game can fly ships without some pretty graphics of their ships leaving engine trails or having the turrets be animated. You do realize that everyone can also play this game without Nebula's or having Stargates pointed to a specific star. I could go on and on but the question here is why did CCP spend time and resources to implement that. It's just pointless fluff. It definitely didn't add any meaningful new game play content nor was it needed to play the game.

Going by your philosophy then the answer would be that all the poor little FiS bears flying around in their little spaceships are so unimaginative, they couldn't handle the suspension of belief unless they had that content added to the game.

The correct answer is because it adds immersion. As I said before, this game is based on a visual experience which is intended to enhance the players enjoyment.

Your insistence that CCP should exclude WiS content that benefits and helps expand game play for role-players is not only biased, it's prejudiced, racist and narrow-minded as well. Not to mention you're also a hypocrite. WiS content should have aspects that appeal to all styles of game play.

Another ***** who needs to read the whole thread again that most Wislovers are happy the way FIS play is evolving right now

oh man, this proves ,you don,t really follow this thread
If you did you knew ,not all of us are afraid of in station pvp .
and some sort of social room like the corproom of some commandcenter to interact with the dustslaves is the least WIS could have.

Wait... Racist? What?

That word...I don't it means what you think it means.

Desires for WiS are desires for MORE gameplay in EVE, not in another game.

See, I wouldn't care that much about WiS if I could play some other stuff in space -and by "some other" i think of something different than what EVE currently has to offer.

EVE as it is is a game i don't play any further. I already did what I was interested to do, so if I have to play EVE, then it must be something different. "More of the same old drill" won't do it, and i have a serious feeling that my case is not uncommon.

There is no endgame content for hiseccers. That certainly matches to CCP's design assumption that people joins EVE because of nullsec, but that assumption clashes against the fact that nullsec is a niche within the niche.

EVE is unique in many aspects, and so it will appeal to many kinds of players. Then CCP will drive most of them away with the faulty assumption that, as nullsec has appealed to the same 15,000 players for 9 years, then the other 330,000 can pretty much f* themselves and go play WoW if they don't like nullsec and grew bored of everything else.

Unfortunately, WIS does not have to see day light.
EVE can die before they realize that WiS is new EVEs life.

Huh.

In a deep sense i don't like EVE's premise, that bad guys can be SOBs forever and nobody be safe and nobody bother them or stop them. If I wanted to endure that crap, i just would turn on the TV and tune the news to learn whatever did today my country's politicians.

So, in that sense, I don't like EVE. Hooligans deserve being hanged at crossroads to serve as example, not being cheered while they ask for people to suicide over a videogame, if you get what I mean.

But then, i like MMOs, and EVE is unique. I am sucker for the skill system, the combat system, the economy and the sheer complexity of fitting ships for a task.

I would love that bounty hunting was a viable profession and SOBs got a reason to fear being chased by bounty hunters. I would love that EVE PvP was about either being a SOB and face the consequences or make SOBs face the consequences. Being a SOB for free is not my idea of fun.

If that was impossible (poor PvPrs, they should go harrass non-PvPrs elsewhere), then I would like that EVE was about building and restoring civilization, bringing order into chaos rather than gloat into pointless perpetual mayhem. Colonize planets, set up stargates, whatever.

Failing all above, i just would like to be able to pursue my own goals without being fukked by someone I can't fuk back, and let the universe go to hell while I dig out my own little corner.

And here I enter WiS, occuring in the only places in EVE were your assets are safe unless you willingly jeopardize them (FAI trusting someone and giving him acces to the corporate hangar).

Sounds like they want WiS content added to the game, nowhere did they say 'WiS at all costs'.

As for your statement about WiS being botched the first time, it was the Incarna expansion that was botched and I'm not going to state all the problems associated with it again. The main problem with the WiS delivered in the Incarna expansion was that it didn't include the Ambulation that was promised to players years ago.

Ohhh, like we're supposed to believe your characters are doing all kinds of PvP action in-game. Typical troll alts made specifically to pad the CSM vote and troll these forums. Your characters rarely ever enter the game.

Just letting you know that if CCP does make WiS PvP available, my team of AAA's (Avatar Attack Alts) will be camping out your CQ doorsteps.

Is there any other part of EVE you can shut off? Can I shut off gate camps?

Why would you want to shut anything off? Just dont paticipate if you don't like it.

You're not making much sense.

What's wrong with Aurum? If anything they should expand Aurum and do away with PLEX. Aurum has way more flexibilty in application.

Aurum and PLEX are the same thing, some people just can't accept it because they can't handle change(see what I did there?).

Gate camps are not gameplay for me.
Nor are suicide ganks.

so "YOURE making ME play the way YOU want to which by your own argument is wrong"

Well, that's how the game goes. They can spoil your fun, yet you can't spoil theirs.

You do realize that having ps3 exclusive allowed CCP to bend over Sony instead of the other way around. This move may also bend over Microsoft begging to have dust 514 and having that done would allow steam to be on xbox 360 as well.

Look after their leader and biomass him in his CQ. Uneasy lies the head that wears a crown.

It's probably worth mentioning that there is nothing in the NeX store that you can't buy with ISK.

Abridged version: wanted to play X3 online, EVE was the nearest thing.

I didn't start playing EVE because i liked it, but because it was the only one.

Valid point indeed, as I also prefer CCP spending my money in other things rather than wardecs, nullsec and other uninteresting crap. So my subs are cancelled until CCP delivers something i feel like paying for it again. Be it EVE or WoD, only time will tell.

As a mater of fact, my accounts have been cancelled since november (my main) and after Crucible (this one). This one is runing on the remnant of a 6 month prepayment.

Exactly 100% true. Not to mention now using the 'Saintly Victim' card whenever called on it. Especially like the tactic of continued misdirection with selective quoting and bringing in alts to post agreement trying to give credence to their statements, mainly using the old strategy of overwhelming the opposition with a flood of multiple posted replies, basically shouting out and silencing any rebuttal which they do quite well.

Their agenda ever since the beginning of this thread has been to disrupt and or obstruct the implementation of WiS content into Eve Online. All kinds of reasons have been desperately used trying to achieve this goal. Due to realizing that CCP is committed to WiS content, the new ploy is to feign interest and support while advocating that it be considered and released as a completely different game thus fulfilling their initial objective: stop WiS content being implemented into Eve Online.

Anti-WiS players don't have anything to worry about. Their fears can be laid to rest. There won't ever be any WiS Ambulation implemented in Eve Online. The song and dance routine by CCP in this thread is nothing more than smoke and mirrors. Hilmar's statement - "Watch what they do, not what they say." - is a very good philosophy to go by. I understand now why the majority of true Pro-WiS players have left this thread

CCP has no plan to implement areas where multiple Avatars can interact. The Captains Quarters was specifically implemented to facilitate the acquisition of more money through the NEX STORE and MT, nothing more. CCP's blatant refusal to speculate on any future plans regarding multiple Avatar interaction, the continued lack of information regarding future content, their inability to specify a timeline or show any current basic programing work speaks for itself.

Team Avatar is just a name, nothing more. It's a dog and pony show, some PR fluff created to placate a percentage of the player base. The little bit of Avatar content they do release was already created previously with Incarna. This whole thread has been ruled by and over-run by Anti-WiS players trolling Pro-WiS players from the very start. This thread portrays a perfect example of futility by true Pro-WiS players which has been a colossal waste of time. With that realization, I now say this to the very few remaining true Pro-WiS players still posting in this thread, don't waste any more of your precious time dealing with this facade. Your time is better spent doing much more enjoyable things.