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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
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Posted - 2013.07.07 05:06:00 -
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The Sisters asked me to ask CCP, as to preserve their digital lives, why the hell CCP did not add more ships with 99.9% reduction in probe launcher cost? Seems like an obvious miss.
It would be great to have more, less than BC sized hulls, besides T3, able to online a SOE or regular expanded probe launcher. Because for every action (more explorers) there should be an equal reaction (more explorer hunters).
This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Iudicium Vastus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
40
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Posted - 2013.07.07 05:10:00 -
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Came in thinking this was a DUST related issue Sony Online Entertainment had with CCP. |
EvEa Deva
State War Academy
Caldari State
344
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Posted - 2013.07.07 05:14:00 -
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Your the reason people never undock, to much risk. |
Elvis Fett
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
228
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Posted - 2013.07.07 05:48:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:The Sisters asked me to ask CCP, as to preserve their digital lives, why the hell CCP did not add more ships with 99.9% reduction in probe launcher cost? Seems like an obvious miss.
It would be great to have more, less than BC sized hulls, besides T3, able to online a SOE or regular expanded probe launcher. Because for every action (more explorers) there should be an equal reaction (more explorer hunters).
+1 for idea
+1 for good intentions
-1 for RP'ing
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Xercodo
Xovoni Astronautical Manufacturing and Engineering
2483
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Posted - 2013.07.07 06:34:00 -
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And I'm here to ask why are explorers needing to use combat probes?
They dont need any launcher bonus.
The Drake is a Lie |
Ari Laveran
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
64
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Posted - 2013.07.07 06:50:00 -
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If you are using combat probes to hunt and catch explorers you are doing it wrong. |
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
682
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Posted - 2013.07.07 16:54:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:And I'm here to ask why are explorers needing to use combat probes?
They dont need any launcher bonus.
Not asking for a scan bonus, but balance requires equality for predator and prey.
And using combat probes can be an effective way to hunt explorers. First you scan down the anom. Next you wait for the trap to be sprung and for the fly to enter the web while being well out of short scan range. Warping in negates a de-cloak penalty. But to each their own.
This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Kult Altol
Confederation Navy Research
Epsilon Fleet
562
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Posted - 2013.07.07 19:37:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:Xercodo wrote:And I'm here to ask why are explorers needing to use combat probes?
They dont need any launcher bonus. Not asking for a scan bonus, but balance requires equality for predator and prey. And using combat probes can be an effective way to hunt explorers. First you scan down the anom. Next you wait for the trap to be sprung and for the fly to enter the web while being well out of short scan range. Warping in negates a de-cloak penalty. But to each their own.
Unrelated, how do you see? 
Can't wait untill when Eve online is Freemium. WiS only 10$, SP booster for one month 15$, DPS Boost 2$, EHP Boost 2$ Real money trading hub! Cosmeitic ship skins 15$ --> If you don't pay for a product, you ARE the product. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
Cosmic Consortium
3856
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Posted - 2013.07.08 01:06:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:Not asking for a scan bonus, but balance requires equality for predator and prey.
I disagree with your statement: balance does not require equality. In the classic example from highschool science courses, you can balance a 2kg weight against a 1kg weight by placing the fulcrum at 1/3 the length of the lever from the end supporting the 2kg weight. The two weights will be balanced but not equal.
In the good old days pirates would hunt down explorers (aka ninjas) with dedicated probing ships, then use the magic of fleet warp to send the combat ships toward the target.
Of course you also have the option of the Battle Helios or similar fits with other covert ops frigates.
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
Cosmic Consortium
3856
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Posted - 2013.07.08 01:08:00 -
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Kult Altol wrote:If you don't pay for the product you are the product
Guess what? This is EVE Online: we pay for the game but we are the content. Talk about getting the bum steer!
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Tauranon
Weeesearch
198
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Posted - 2013.07.08 01:37:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:The Sisters asked me to ask CCP, as to preserve their digital lives, why the hell CCP did not add more ships with 99.9% reduction in probe launcher cost? Seems like an obvious miss.
It would be great to have more, less than BC sized hulls, besides T3, able to online a SOE or regular expanded probe launcher. Because for every action (more explorers) there should be an equal reaction (more explorer hunters).
Teach a pirate to probe and you feed them for a day.
Teach a pirate to bookmark the content they probed and you feed them for life.
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Markku Laaksonen
EVE University
Ivy League
158
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Posted - 2013.07.08 01:57:00 -
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Came expecting Sony Online Entertainment thread, surprised by Sisters Of Eve. |
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
169
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Posted - 2013.07.08 03:28:00 -
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Markku Laaksonen wrote:Came expecting Sony Online Entertainment thread, surprised by Sisters Of Eve.
Technically should be SoE. |
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
682
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Posted - 2013.07.09 03:15:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Nexus Day wrote:Not asking for a scan bonus, but balance requires equality for predator and prey. I disagree with your statement: balance does not require equality. In the classic example from highschool science courses, you can balance a 2kg weight against a 1kg weight by placing the fulcrum at 1/3 the length of the lever from the end supporting the 2kg weight. The two weights will be balanced but not equal. In the good old days pirates would hunt down explorers (aka ninjas) with dedicated probing ships, then use the magic of fleet warp to send the combat ships toward the target. Of course you also have the option of the Battle Helios or similar fits with other covert ops frigates.
The covert ops frigates have difficulty mounting the expanded launcher as it takes 75% of its CPU. I currently use an expanded SoE launcher on a Noctis acting as a command ship to warp the fleet in but...
I would much rather have a ship that isn't a T3 cruiser that has similar or the same CPU bonuses for probe launchers. Why? To hunt hi sec explorers. I am not tossing out a BC or T3 to wax a probe that may or may not have cargo in hi sec.
The risk should be inline with the reward as many say.
This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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