The fact that they got Awoxed and lost a ton of ships, yeah, it can happen to anyone, even PL, if the Awoxer's are smart and patient enough.

But the interesting stuff I learned about PL was how they responded to it.
A lot of the guys were really chill about the losses in the Soundcloud recording.

But a great number of voices (don't know the names associated with them) screaming about killing people, the white hot rage, and the recriminations and counter-recriminations, that is the interesting stuff.

Yeah, null sec players don't take this game seriously, at all......

I can't see how people who clearly hate each other can operate in a cohesive group.

The fact that they got Awoxed and lost a ton of ships, yeah, it can happen to anyone, even PL, if the Awoxer's are smart and patient enough.

But the interesting stuff I learned about PL was how they responded to it.
A lot of the guys were really chill about the losses in the Soundcloud recording.

But a great number of voices (don't know the names associated with them) screaming about killing people, the white hot rage, and the recriminations and counter-recriminations, that is the interesting stuff.

Yeah, null sec players don't take this game seriously, at all......

I can't see how people who clearly hate each other can operate in a cohesive group.

Every alliance has people who over react and people who are chill.

*people from this alliance act like this* and *people from that alliance act like that* should only ever be used for propaganda reasons and should never actually be taken seriously on a personal level.

You should hear the soundcloud from Grath being pissed off that he got killed in battlefield.

Are you talking about the one where he was shot behind the wall?

You mean this one?

The OTHER Wall Hax Incident

Let's Talk About: Women's rights (angrily)

I understand that several of you find Grath to be offensive and confrontational, but the rest of us; while we understand he is mad, it's just his way of communicating with other people he disagrees with. Something something, thick skin, something something.

You may talk about this guy just being" that way", and shake it off.
But if anyone said half the stuff he did and someone complained, they would get banned from the game, or should be.
Threatening to drive 12 blocks and assault someone is not just laughed off in most circles of civilization.

But I guess it is OK in the elite world of the null sec powerhouses, which is just piece of evidence confirming my views of the cartels.

You may talk about this guy just being" that way", and shake it off.
But if anyone said half the stuff he did and someone complained, they would get banned from the game, or should be.
Threatening to drive 12 blocks and assault someone is not just laughed off in most circles of civilization.

It's just Grath being Grath, it doesn't surprise any of us; and the person he was 'threatening' was Makalu, who actually lives 12 blocks away from Grath.

You can threaten people all you want in any external voice comms, chat clients and forums outside of EVE-O; everyone in that channel found humor in it, understood the points he was trying to convey, and didn't take any offense at all to anything he said. I've been all over nullsec in the past few years, and literally every sov holding alliance has their own version of him.

The fact that you guys find this type of behaviour not only acceptable, but seem to encourage it, speaks volumes about the kind of people you are.

Honestly despite the point you think you are trying to make, its apparent you are just alot less socially tolerant than them.

Everyone has that one friend that gets really worked up over stupid things and its usually just funny and everything just goes back to normal when theyve cooled down.

Dont take everything so serious.

Less tolerant than them?
The man in that soundcloud clip makes at least one racist comment, and appears willing to wipe out a big chunk of alliance.

And no, not everyone has a "friend" like that. If someone tried that in social circles in real life, like at work, or at a party, or in politics, they would very quickly be out of a job, and would be ostracized pretty quick.

But go ahead, keep condoning this behaviour. I have heard enough and read enough to know that this kind of person is looked upon with some element of admiration in this "game", since clearly, this guy has moved to the top echelons of a powerful group within Eve, and the fact that he is accepted within that group, says all I need to know about them.

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Less tolerant than them?
The man in that soundcloud clip makes at least one racist comment, and appears willing to wipe out a big chunk of alliance.

And no, not everyone has a "friend" like that. If someone tried that in social circles in real life, like at work, or at a party, or in politics, they would very quickly be out of a job, and would be ostracized pretty quick.

But go ahead, keep condoning this behaviour. I have heard enough and read enough to know that this kind of person is looked upon with some element of admiration in this "game", since clearly, this guy has moved to the top echelons of a powerful group within Eve, and the fact that he is accepted within that group, says all I need to know about them.

The fact that you guys find this type of behaviour not only acceptable, but seem to encourage it, speaks volumes about the kind of people you are.

Less tolerant than them?
The man in that soundcloud clip makes at least one racist comment, and appears willing to wipe out a big chunk of alliance.

And no, not everyone has a "friend" like that. If someone tried that in social circles in real life, like at work, or at a party, or in politics, they would very quickly be out of a job, and would be ostracized pretty quick.

But go ahead, keep condoning this behaviour. I have heard enough and read enough to know that this kind of person is looked upon with some element of admiration in this "game", since clearly, this guy has moved to the top echelons of a powerful group within Eve, and the fact that he is accepted within that group, says all I need to know about them.

You may talk about this guy just being" that way", and shake it off.
But if anyone said half the stuff he did and someone complained, they would get banned from the game, or should be.
Threatening to drive 12 blocks and assault someone is not just laughed off in most circles of civilization.

But I guess it is OK in the elite world of the null sec powerhouses, which is just piece of evidence confirming my views of the cartels.

No need to throw a hissy fit because we outright deleted your application thread without responding to it.

No need to throw a hissy fit because we outright deleted your application thread without responding to it.

The fact that you guys find this type of behaviour not only acceptable, but seem to encourage it, speaks volumes about the kind of people you are.

Threatening to drive 12 blocks and assault someone is not just laughed off in most circles of civilization.

But I guess it is OK in the elite world of the null sec powerhouses, which is just piece of evidence confirming my views of the cartels.

Basically in the world of "Elite PvP" (yes I have been there) **** ups get you the boot. So Grath threatening to kick 10 people for losing their supers stupidly is not all that uncommon. They messed up royally and as he pointed out was completely preventable.

Most Eitist types would go off the handle not wait for an explaination or for the awox information to come through. As members of said organization they should have known better.

The fact that he calmed down and the sorted through all the facts is a testament to the leadership of PL.


As a side note I really miss having Jeff Raider in fleet. He and Shadoo were some real chill dudes while we were helicopter dicking Delve for TEST last year.

Has anyone got round to dubbing Grath's apoplectic raving to the infamous Adolf rant scene from "Downfall" yet?

The idea of any neckbeard ever being able to actually back up threats of violence is pretty laughable.

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Its all cheers and smiles when PL are hot dropping Titans and Supers on Drakes etc.

As soon as they get a taste of their own medicine, some of them start acting like retards.

I can't wait until our next irc chatlog leak so that more family values loving forum warriors will have a collective aneurysm over our flippant disregard of black people, homosexuals and spanish speaking south americans.

Honestly, its our private community where we can goof off and act how we like.. its not your place as an outsider to get offended on our behalf. Thankfully you arent a member of our community so kindly sod off with your oppinions on our internal behaviour

Its all cheers and smiles when PL are hot dropping Titans and Supers on Drakes etc.

As soon as they get a taste of their own medicine, some of them start acting like retards.

Nobody cares about your feelings, opinion, or the fact that mommy didnt rub ointment on your raw lady parts today. Here's wishing the purge was real so somebody would mutilate your body and leave you for dead.

Cheers,

Gee, sounds like a personal threat to me.
Thought your guys' mantra was "It's only a game, so STFU."

Guess I must have hit a nerve.

No need to throw a hissy fit because we outright deleted your application thread without responding to it.

Two things, first its not a personal threat, I would just laugh if you died miserably because I'm a prick. Second, and this is possibly more important, I'm not sure who "your guys'" is/are but you know neither me nor my broskies, and we are also not PL who I am assuming you just grouped me into. Also, I have no "mantra" you feng shui spurgelord. You didn't hit a nerve, I'm just trying to help you understand how bad you suck at life in the hopes that you do everyone a favor and put out your own candle.

Less tolerant than them?
The man in that soundcloud clip makes at least one racist comment, and appears willing to wipe out a big chunk of alliance.

And no, not everyone has a "friend" like that. If someone tried that in social circles in real life, like at work, or at a party, or in politics, they would very quickly be out of a job, and would be ostracized pretty quick.

But go ahead, keep condoning this behaviour. I have heard enough and read enough to know that this kind of person is looked upon with some element of admiration in this "game", since clearly, this guy has moved to the top echelons of a powerful group within Eve, and the fact that he is accepted within that group, says all I need to know about them.

Have i posted in this thread??

Two things, first its not a personal threat, I would just laugh if you died miserably because I'm a prick. Second, and this is possibly more important, I'm not sure who "your guys'" is/are but you know neither me nor my broskies, and we are also not PL who I am assuming you just grouped me into. Also, I have no "mantra" you feng shui spurgelord. You didn't hit a nerve, I'm just trying to help you understand how bad you suck at life in the hopes that you do everyone a favor and put out your own candle.

I believe someone of note got a 30 ban from the game for making the same suggestion.

You chauvinist pigs

severe misunderstanding of feminism and women's rights in an online video game? brb while i pick up my jaw.

I listened to the soundcloud on Women's rights and lol'd at the ignorance of both sides.

It was hilarious and would listen again.

From a woman's point of view it was just typical manraging with little to no understanding of what women have to deal with in a world full of "equality"

I personally think Grath is rather smart and Jeff likes to trollololol him for s h i t s and giggles, so the entire thing was worth listening to.

As for women in this game...... Unless you flash your t i t s around like mintchip or offer to give someone a blow job for isk..

You are either a megalomaniac, nutcase, raging b i t ch on the rag or

A MINER!