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Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2011.10.25 01:41:00 -
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Hello All,
I have buddy who recently started playing eve and we're trying to figure out how he got killed and didn't get kill rights, nor does he think Concord showed up, nor did station guns fire.
My friends account: He was in Hek, he undocked to move a ship, he wasn't watching or paying attention, then noticed he was being attacked, he activated his shield booster and then blew up and was then podded. All by the same guy.
I've attached the two kills with names removed. I'd love to hear any theories you have. He had been logged off for awhile, so he could not have had aggression (and he says he didn't steal or take anything, he never touches wrecks). Now to be fair my buddy is ~8 days old, so maybe he did something and just doesn't know it. He is in an NPC corp, so there was no war deck. I looked the killing pilot up and he's had MANY kills in Hek, some of npcs, so maybe there in an exploitable mechanic, but I doubt it.
Combat log
2011.10.22 22:14:00
Victim: XXX Corp: Tribal Liberation Force Alliance: Unknown Faction: Minmatar Republic Destroyed: Hurricane System: Hek Security: 0.5 Damage Taken: 15043
Involved parties:
Name: YYY (laid the final blow) Security: -0.4 Corp: State Protectorate Alliance: NONE Faction: Caldari State Ship: Myrmidon Weapon: Hammerhead II Damage Done: 15043
Now I could see a suicide gank but next to a station?
Then he had time to lock and pod him? We are just trying to figure out HOW, don't give a frack why and no isk compensation is being pursued.
2011.10.22 22:15:00
Victim: XXX Corp: Tribal Liberation Force Alliance: Unknown Faction: Minmatar Republic Destroyed: Capsule System: Hek Security: 0.5 Damage Taken: 244
Involved parties:
Name: YYY (laid the final blow) Security: -0.4 Corp: State Protectorate Alliance: NONE Faction: Caldari State Ship: Myrmidon Weapon: 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II Damage Done: 244
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Demon View
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.25 01:48:00 -
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A Minmatar FW pilot got killed by a Caldari FW pilot.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Factional_Warfare |

Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2011.10.25 02:06:00 -
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mxzf
Shovel Bros
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Posted - 2011.10.25 02:15:00 -
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Apollo Gabriel wrote:Don't you have to opt into Fleet warfare?
Faction Warfare you mean. And, yes, by joining the FW corp. |

Demon View
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.25 02:38:00 -
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Apollo Gabriel wrote:Don't you have to opt into Fleet warfare?
This is probably what happened:
- Friend joins Eve. Is told to run through the Career Agents.
- Friend does Advanced Military arc, gets a Letter of Recommendation at the end.
- Friend asks in Rookie Help, "what's this for?" "It's to join the militia." "how do I do that?" ...
- Friend doesn't read recruitment text, joins FW, ignores new Militia channel.
- (time passes)
- Loren Gallen
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Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
97
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Posted - 2011.10.25 02:56:00 -
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Azelor Delaria
Error-404
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Posted - 2011.10.25 03:10:00 -
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Demon View wrote:Apollo Gabriel wrote:Don't you have to opt into Fleet warfare? This is probably what happened:
- Friend joins Eve. Is told to run through the Career Agents.
- Friend does Advanced Military arc, gets a Letter of Recommendation at the end.
- Friend asks in Rookie Help, "what's this for?" "It's to join the militia." "how do I do that?" ...
- Friend doesn't read recruitment text, joins FW, ignores new Militia channel.
- (time passes)
- Loren Gallen
I lawl'd. |

Markius TheShed
Murientor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.10.25 08:32:00 -
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He joined the Minmatar militia so then became a war target of the Amarr and Caldari militia.
I hope he didn't quit the militia after this happened, There is lots of fun to be had and isk to be made being in faction war.
But a 8 day old character shouldn't be flying hurricanes, Get yourself a load of Rifters and train up your gunnery and piloting skills then get yourself into low sec (Dal or Auga) and hunt down some Amarr (they will be orange on your overview)
You will die so make sure your clones upto date but ever fight will give your more experience and open up so much more of the game. |

Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.10.25 11:28:00 -
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I think a week old player (not even character) is too new for factional warfare. He needs to learn about a lot of game mechanics first before even trying. |

Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
98
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Posted - 2011.10.25 11:58:00 -
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Hello All,
So I talked with him again and he DID in fact join a militia, although he thought it was only a low sec feature. He had a cane for missions and has been able to replace it and has quit FW for now.
Thanks for the help! I did ask him about FW before I posted here but I didn't say Milita so he didn't realize it.
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