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Boomhowler
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Posted - 2005.12.06 21:56:00 -
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A few generic questions about game play.
How much warping do you generally need to do?
I think I want to be a (player) pirate hunter, but donĘt want to constantly warp from system to system (4-5 jumps max).
I finally ventured into 0.1 space (something like 12 jumps) and saw no where to buy anything.
When my ship gets destroyed will I have to warp forever to replace it? Can I keep my clone somewhere near to where I will be hunting pirates?
Can I make a living off of hunting pirates? I mined a lot (mined enough to make 300,000 just during tutorial) and found I donĘt really like it. Hunting NPC pirates is ok and keeps some ISK flowing, but I feel that I will probably need more to keep up with clones, modules & ships when I actually begin PvP.
I have never played PvP, and am sure I will be lousy at it to begin with, and knowing this I know I will need a lot of ISK to cover my losses.
I played FFXI and really hated the long travel times for everything, actually hated it more than having to do stuff I hated to earn gil. The 2 reasons I quit are those I have listed above. Will I encounter this as a pirate hunter?
I have played solo for now, and maybe warping will be easier to take when I join a corp. and do things with corp. mates, but for now I have an unreasonable hatred of warping.
Also if I choose to go the pirate route it seems even harder to go someplace to replace gear, with a low security status. How do you do it or am I just in a low level system that doesnĘt have a place to get ships.
The crux of my question(s) are will I spend more time warping from system to system / mining or actually playing the game.
I canceled my account 6 hours ago seeing that I had warped so far into 0.1 and realized I would probably have to warp back in my pod to replace my ship and stuff. I know my hatred of warping is slightly irrational (it made me cancel account), but I went to reactivate it a minute ago and it hasnĘt been cancelled yet. When it cancels I will reactivate it (hopefully) based on the answers to my questions. In really want to play this game, not just warp around and mine.
Sorry for sounding like a whiny prima donna.
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Murad Warpsurfer
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Posted - 2005.12.06 22:04:00 -
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I feel same about travelling. This game seems to be boring because it can be slow to get to places, but maybe its because we aren't used to this laid back type of game. i.e. in games like WoW and EQ2 (i didn't play FFIX)you have mobs to kill while u travel so it breaks away the boredom, but with this game u set the destination and then wait.
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whohuhwhat
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Posted - 2005.12.06 22:11:00 -
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I've found the best way to travel around is to have a central base with a stock pile of gear. then set up forward bases where ever you are hunting from. Set your clone to either base.
I picked a system that's 4 jumps from a central market and 1 jump from low sec for my central base. I've got around 4 forward locations 10-30 jumps from there. Each forward location has 1-2 bs, 4-5 cruisers, 5-7 frigs and equip for all of them. this way i can move around a bit and still have all the gear i need to replace my losses. one of the key things is your clone. pick stations with cloning facilities and move your clone to the one you're activly using (only cost's 5,600 isk).
Once you've exhausted an area either sell everything move and buy more or leave it, cause you may be back.
This can be done with only frigs or mixed ships, totally depends on how you play.
Hope this helps a bit,
whohuhwhat
Keeper of the herd
Still somewhat confused
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Wee Dave
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Posted - 2005.12.07 01:36:00 -
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Don't shop impulsively. Work out what you need and stockpile when you can. As a rat hunter you will probably have a particular hunting ground, 15-20 systems or so on the border between high and low sec or between low-sec and 0.0. Provided you don't run up to high sec every time you want some small antimatter charges you should be fine.
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Qedhup
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Posted - 2005.12.07 02:06:00 -
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Search around for a home base to set yourself up at. After that you don't need to travel much. Also... learnt he bookmark trick for gates! It cuts travel time down 100x!!!
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.12.07 02:09:00 -
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In a good hub system, you can buy absolutely everything without even leaving the system.
Travelling for hours on end is not required to have fun in EVE.
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Proud member of the [23].
The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video.
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Astabon
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Posted - 2005.12.07 02:59:00 -
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All the above suggestions are great. I find having an afterburner or Micorwarp drive can help with travel time.
If you are jumping in safe space, you can do other things while your jumping though. I find I browse the market a lot looking at different ships, skills, and equipment and compare stats and such. You can purchase things while in space.
I also check out the various settings on the starmap and look for new mining areas (low travel, low pop). You can chat in corp chat, browse the various webpages with the in game browser like Eve Geek
Basily you would do all the normal stuff you would do when you have downtime at your day job. 
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Depco
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Posted - 2005.12.07 04:36:00 -
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Edited by: Depco on 07/12/2005 04:36:28
I certainly have to agree with Boomhowler, The warping times in this game are almost intolerable. I have only been playing one day so I cant really make a fair asesment. But I do know a couple things.
1. I can make a sandwich, get a beer, and go to the bathroom while still having time left over in the time it takes to make 15 jumps. (learned that in the second agent mission of the tutorial.)
2. The visuals in this game are spectacular.
3. The Sci-fi setting of this game is interesting enough to make me want to play more and find out if the long Jump times are worth it.
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Ishtari
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Posted - 2005.12.07 05:37:00 -
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Easy solutions to most of your points.
1) train skills from the navugation category: mwd or afterburner cut times by a lot
2) use insta bookmarks to gates you use a lot
3) work for an agent: usually they dont send you more then 3-4 jumps away.
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Marcus Tedric
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Posted - 2005.12.07 09:05:00 -
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The time taken to get anywhere in the game is fundamental to it's entire economy and strategy.
Use that time:
Check Market and find things out;
Chat to corp mates and other buddies;
Kick back and relax in between bouts of adrenaline pumping action;
Oh, and take the time to eat, drink and perform essential bodily functions - otherwise your wingmen will be royally cheesed if you suddenly type up - "ohh, ahh, must take a short break, brb...."
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.12.07 09:48:00 -
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 Originally by: Depco
Edited by: Depco on 07/12/2005 04:36:28
I certainly have to agree with Boomhowler, The warping times in this game are almost intolerable. I have only been playing one day so I cant really make a fair asesment. But I do know a couple things.
1. I can make a sandwich, get a beer, and go to the bathroom while still having time left over in the time it takes to make 15 jumps. (learned that in the second agent mission of the tutorial.)
2. The visuals in this game are spectacular.
3. The Sci-fi setting of this game is interesting enough to make me want to play more and find out if the long Jump times are worth it.
If you're jumping all over the place and don't want to, you're doing something wrong. Come on, you can run 4 levels of missions, buy equipment for every ship in the game, and never go more than 2 jumps from Jita.
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Proud member of the [23].
The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video.
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Boomhowler
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Posted - 2005.12.07 12:58:00 -
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thanks for the info. i can't wait for my account to cancel so i don't forget to re-activate. don't want to lose any time skilling up.
the first thing i skilled up was whatever it took for a MWD.(nav i think). these thing make life so much easier.
i have tried to do the insta thing and just am truly lousy at it. once i decide on a system is it worth purchasing bookmarks for the system?
i understand that there are many scammers on the escrow market, and you should check everything you buy, but how do you check bookmarks? or am i just misunderstanding what is being sold?
thanks again for all the help.
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Itsari
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Posted - 2005.12.07 15:41:00 -
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I'm going to have to say that, although you can stay in three or four systems and still be productive. This game really does have a insane amount of (uneventful) travel time involved. I've got quality20 agents where most of the missions they give me are 5/6 jumps away.
It's best you think of this game as a very interactive very beautiful screensaver I find. That way you know you should be doing other things while it's open, because beyond watching it- there really isn't much.
Personally, I'm working on coding something while playing(most of the time). Definitely makes travel feel much faster.
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Kalixa Hihro
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Posted - 2005.12.07 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: Murad Warpsurfer
I feel same about travelling. This game seems to be boring because it can be slow to get to places, but maybe its because we aren't used to this laid back type of game. i.e. in games like WoW and EQ2 (i didn't play FFIX)you have mobs to kill while u travel so it breaks away the boredom, but with this game u set the destination and then wait.
search for RG9 or c9n (my digs), plot a course from nonni (or anywhere in empire). LOL 10 jumps is nothing. Try doing 25 in 0.0 with a bubble camp or 3 in your way with various sized player mobs trying to kill you, to go along with the trip.
If you are so inclined, there are often high level pirate npc's on the gates out there. It's anything but boring out there. I'm usually sweating by the time I get to my destination, from the adrenaline of dodging/fighting players. This game is only as boring as you let it be.
On the flip side of the coin, it's not for everyone.
-Kal
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Roczenjka
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Posted - 2005.12.07 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Itsari
It's best you think of this game as a very interactive very beautiful screensaver I find. That way you know you should be doing other things while it's open, because beyond watching it- there really isn't much.
I have 2 monitor set up on my PC. I leave Eve on one of them, windowed, and just leave it mining whilst getting on with other stuff on the main screen :)
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