Man CCP those are some killer ships. Lucky guys who win this tournament. However I kind of feel that it's a waste of sorts that these are pirate ship. Would anyone ever pvp in them? I think the Chremoas is absolutely badass. Would it be possible to have something similar looking available as a tech 2 version of the dramiel? Obviously with reduced stats of whats available for the tournament as not to detract from the reward for winning but still better then the standard dram. Give your opinions but keep flaming to minimum.

hopefully someone that isnt too "risk averse" wins them

I hear PL doesn't afraid to lose expensive unique ships.

Whether the winner is willing to use them or not is pretty irrelevant, as there will be so few of them most players will never see one anyway. Fact is, they should be releasing "real" interesting content for pirates, to pirates. These ships themselves (with the stats they are likely to have) may be OP as they stand, but honestly the concept behind them is pretty fantastic and they should've considered stuff like this for, I dunno, a themed pirate expansion (for starters.) Something I've certainly seen numerous forum threads about in the past regarding expansions/low-sec love. It's just shortsighted of them to make hulls/ship-types like those so bloody limited they are more likely to collect dust in a collectors hangar then ever see the light of day.

You hit the nail on the head my friend.

For the record: Moracha is Spanish for 'dark purple'.

Chremoas is just an absolutely made up word, as far as I can determine.

Chremoas is a demon.

"Chremoas: In the Ars Theurgia, Chremoas is one of ten great dukes who serve the infernal prince Bidiel. Chremoas oversees no fewer than two thousand and four hundred inferior spirits. When he manifests, he is reputed to take a human shape that is beautiful and pleasant to look upon."

i dont understand why CCP doesnt complete the pirate ship lines, we have navy battlecruisers so it has sense we get also navy destroyers and pirate destroyers and battlecruisers.

For the record: Moracha is Spanish for 'dark purple'.

Chremoas is just an absolutely made up word, as far as I can determine.

Whether the winner is willing to use them or not is pretty irrelevant, as there will be so few of them most players will never see one anyway. Fact is, they should be releasing "real" interesting content for pirates, to pirates. These ships themselves (with the stats they are likely to have) may be OP as they stand, but honestly the concept behind them is pretty fantastic and they should've considered stuff like this for, I dunno, a themed pirate expansion (for starters.) Something I've certainly seen numerous forum threads about in the past regarding expansions/low-sec love. It's just shortsighted of them to make hulls/ship-types like those so bloody limited they are more likely to collect dust in a collectors hangar then ever see the light of day.

I fail to see how a frigate, that can fit two guns and a covops cloak obsoletes anything else.

T2 pirate hulls? heck no!

now if they released more hulls to the pirate lines it would in fact, a good content injection. the Moracha uses the Ixion hull, one of the most seen angel ships in the game (the pirate Kruul uses one).

it doesnt have sense that for example the guristas have several versions of both destroyers and battlecruisers, and we dont get to see those types of ships avaliable for players.

there are gurista versions of the ferox and the cormorant, another hull for the bantam and even a gurista osprey.

the angels have the same, they have the Medusa, the Hydra, the Ixion and the Echo as aditional models.

i dont understand why CCP doesnt complete the pirate ship lines, we have navy battlecruisers so it has sense we get also navy destroyers and pirate destroyers and battlecruisers.

lack of models isnt an excuse, they're already there, just that they have to add them as playable versions, maybe invent some new hulls for the Sansha which they actually lack models and the Blood Raiders too (too many Amarr versions and only 2 unique hulls).

but for the most part, the Serpentis, the Angels and the Guristas have a complete set of subcap ships.

I get that these ships as they are , are OP. Definately not saying they aren't, however, the concept itself is not OP. Unless of course you're a carebear afraid of AFK cloakers. In which case, you're a baby. When you take away the insane AT stats you're left with a bomber thats suited for fighting frigs, and a cloaky Loki, without ridiculous resists, etc. At the same time maintaining the roles for the aforementioned ships that they would be similar to, not replacing them. I'm not asking for OP death machines, I'm just saying the idea behind these ships is interesting, and they should've used this particular idea for ships everyone can use not a very rare few.

I fail to see how a frigate, that can fit two guns and a covops cloak obsoletes anything else. It cannot fit torpedoes/bomb launchers, therefore stealth bombers aren't hurt

For the record: Moracha is Spanish for 'dark purple'.

Chremoas is just an absolutely made up word, as far as I can determine.

Man CCP those are some killer ships. Lucky guys who win this tournament. However I kind of feel that it's a waste of sorts that these are pirate ship. Would anyone ever pvp in them? .