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Hetjan
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Posted - 2003.08.13 21:26:00 -
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Heya all I am a Pirate and well im confused about one thing when im blocking a gate and there comes in this ship crusier indy or some thing smaller even I cant allways demand money from people as they are using mwd so its better for me just to blast them. And I got this question cause I pod ocasionally. Is poding so really bad. Is poding the same as griefing ? as i pod some one they allmost allways send me a msg and whine. I look at it this way iv got a bounty on me and i know im gona be poded onsight whenever any one gets a chance at it. im doing people a favor by sending them straight back home instead of having to trawel back in a pod. Dont people make clone contracts to save their skill points and people whine allso when i open fire on a shutle well they have 10 m3 and they might be carrying a bp or some thing of value.
pls tell me why is poding so BAD and is poding a way of griefing players ?
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Gan Ning
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Posted - 2003.08.13 21:40:00 -
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When i was a pirate I had 3 rules,
1. I didn't attack players with no corp (most were newbies who strayed too far, killing them was pointless)
2. I didn't pod kill unless there was a bounty on that player or unless they had a neg status
3. If they beg or squeel, I sometimes get my kicks off that and let them go.
Real pirates are always after something, whether it be money, loot, status or territory. If you don't make demands and just kill people on sight because you can then thats just griefing and theres no challenge or point to that.
Try and be a bit more professional in your work and you'll enjoy it more.
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Jiere LaFortune
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Posted - 2003.08.13 22:48:00 -
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Depends what you're after. You might have more fun making your prey squeal a bit. Killing noobs is pointless since most haven't got **** worth taking, but aside from that, if they're dumb enough to get shot they're dumb enough to lose their ship. Podding is a matter of preference. I'm not a pirate but when i blow up some little ****ball for thinking he can steal something from me, or some rookie pirate who thought he had a chance, I usually don't do them the favor of podding. I'd rather let them limp home in a pod, seems like more of a pain in the ass, and then everyone who sees them can see what a dumbass they are.
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Tyr Guann
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Posted - 2003.08.13 23:00:00 -
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Edited by: Tyr Guann on 13/08/2003 23:00:40
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When i was a pirate I had 3 rules,
1. I didn't attack players with no corp (most were newbies who strayed too far, killing them was pointless)
2. I didn't pod kill unless there was a bounty on that player or unless they had a neg status
3. If they beg or squeel, I sometimes get my kicks off that and let them go.
Real pirates are always after something, whether it be money, loot, status or territory. If you don't make demands and just kill people on sight because you can then thats just griefing and theres no challenge or point to that.
Try and be a bit more professional in your work and you'll enjoy it more.
Bravo! A pirate with rules, boundaries and honour.
What really gets up my arse, are those that just shoot and pod without any provocation or demands *cough*Ghen*cough*. I don't mind losing ships or being cloned, but the whole pointless death really does get to me.
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Skelator
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Posted - 2003.08.14 01:49:00 -
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Depends what you're after. You might have more fun making your prey squeal a bit. Killing noobs is pointless since most haven't got **** worth taking, but aside from that, if they're dumb enough to get shot they're dumb enough to lose their ship. Podding is a matter of preference. I'm not a pirate but when i blow up some little ****ball for thinking he can steal something from me, or some rookie pirate who thought he had a chance, I usually don't do them the favor of podding. I'd rather let them limp home in a pod, seems like more of a pain in the ass, and then everyone who sees them can see what a dumbass they are.
The Only time I Pod is when there is a Wanted Stamp on there pretty Picture and a Bounty and at LEAST a -5 Rating if they pass all these checks they are coming out of a Cloning Tank if not they can do like you sayb and have a loong flight home
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lolololo
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Posted - 2003.08.14 01:56:00 -
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Real pirates are always after something, whether it be money, loot, status or territory. If you don't make demands and just kill people on sight because you can then thats just griefing and theres no challenge or point to that.
Thats the point - the real big pirates are sooo bored, cos they are so big, that they just kill people
is money really an issue to them - i have seen many blockades, and never once a demand for money - just guns blazing, no questions asked...
Try and be a bit more professional in your work and you'll enjoy it more.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.08.14 02:38:00 -
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podding is a blessing, people that dont pod are griefers. clones are cheap, and pods are slow. You get insta-jumped to a centralized system of your choice, and you are ready to get your new ship immediatly! Otherwise you have to do 10 jumps in 150m/s pod 
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xeno calligan
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Posted - 2003.08.14 04:56:00 -
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For some ppl it would be easier just to be podded and not have to jump all the way back to base in a pod.
But for others who don't spend too much time in eve and maybe still haven't found a cash cow yet, loosing a few 100k's can be a big deal (ppl how don't play often have high skills but little isk to ensure their clones).
Some "noob" players haven't yet realized the dire need for having a clone and thus feel it's stupid to fork out a lot (for them) isk for a clone they don't think they need (or maybe haven't gotten a sufficient clone yet). I think loosing a large % of your experience points would indeed be considered griefing.
Finally there's a question of honor. It may sound silly to you, but to me, being podded is an extra slap in the face that I can do without.
So in brief, it might be a big deal to be podded for casual players. If ppl want to be podded, there's a nice selfdestruct button they can choose to use if they don't feel like going back to base in a pod. No need to "help" ppl who can "help" themselves.
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Ruulex DeMors
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Posted - 2003.08.14 06:47:00 -
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Edited by: Ruulex DeMors on 14/08/2003 06:51:04
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podding is a blessing, people that dont pod are griefers. clones are cheap, and pods are slow. You get insta-jumped to a centralized system of your choice, and you are ready to get your new ship immediatly! Otherwise you have to do 10 jumps in 150m/s pod
I like that one Viceroy, but my rules are:
1) Can theif just get their ships destroyed.
2) Gate Campers, depends on if they pod'd members of my corp or not.
3) Pirates on the Marshals little black list are pod'd.
Though pirates have been very good at running when they have no shields, so I have very few trophies  . Too bad this patch won't help all that much, at least not for a pirate that is worth his salt.
On the Topic is Pod'ing griefing? I would say yes for noobs, but not for experienced players. It's all based on how you play the game. As we see, Viceroy considers not pod'ing griefing (which if you're 20 jumps from the nearsest station I could very much well see it).
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.08.14 07:24:00 -
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Edited by: Molly on 14/08/2003 07:25:22
Biomass is the 8th mineral. Developers said it.
By podding you, we are mining for our Tech Level 4/5 items.
If you are calling mining griefing, then you need to make a reality check. You are nuts.
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Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.08.14 07:27:00 -
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Vice is spot on, podding is a blessing.
After being killed in Stain, I podwarped to the nearest moon, and warped halfway back*, and *****ed my own pod.
*250,000 isk for my corpse, if you can find it.
the most evil thing I could think of is to let someone do 20 jumps in an egg.
Clones are cheap, travel is expensive.
If it were not designed that way, the whole 'tech5 needing biomass' would be rather daft. As you would have to risk a ban just to build a gun.
Good to see SI aren't the only ones that would rather hold someone up than just blow them out of the system. 
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2003.08.14 07:41:00 -
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Most people I kill ask to be podded. I had a guy actually be ****ed off cause I didn't pod him. I actually didn't pod him so he had to take a long ass trip back to his hangar cause he ****ed me off with his whining and stupid mouth.
Hilarious.
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Rancid Mare
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Posted - 2003.08.14 07:42:00 -
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you might want to make a copy of this tread to give to all the people you kill and pod.
so that they are aware of the big favour you are doing them.
i mean a less educated player might think you where all just being plain nasty.
Rancid Mare of the EveMarshals.
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2003.08.14 07:45:00 -
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The irony is you can always self destruct your pod, and pod yourself, if the need arises.
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Indira Firebrand
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Posted - 2003.08.14 09:02:00 -
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podding doesnt bother me. Clones are cheap.
Its the loss of my ship that ****es me off and dont say "get Insurance". Ins is a waste unless youre positive you are gonna die in the next hour
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2003.08.14 09:04:00 -
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podding doesnt bother me. Clones are cheap.
Its the loss of my ship that ****es me off and dont say "get Insurance". Ins is a waste unless youre positive you are gonna die in the next hour
Indira I notice your frozen corpse is floating near the FD-MLJ jumpgate atm.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.08.14 12:32:00 -
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Piracy is an feature in the game, its allowed and people themselves should act against it.
However the piracy in 1.0 space is griefing in my opinion, specially those who know the system shouldnt work like that: Tank CEO, Molly and others who are known for piracy.
You harass others who are possible new to space, therefor you try to do harm to others who cannot protect themselves.
Hell you can even kill people who arent even familiar with the game controlls and therefor make them a siting duck...
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Rancid Mare
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Posted - 2003.08.14 12:57:00 -
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did i miss something here ?
killing newbies in 1.0 sys ?
no one actualy does that do they ?
what sort of low life scum would resort to such a thing.....
Molly you dont do this do you ?
Rancid Mare of the EveMarshals.
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Demitri Klashnikov
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Posted - 2003.08.14 13:15:00 -
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Prolly risking a podding for myself here, but as I rarley visit 1.0 systems or 0.0 I will take the risk.
Tank CEO is guttless, he was in Amaar the other night just podding people, he had a go at 3 of our members, nothing was lost except respect of M3G4 corp.
I have nothing againt player rats, they are part of the game, if they pod thay pod, if I kill them I get a bounty, if I get away, well tomorow is another day.
I believe Tank has been banned if so well done CCP
(watching my back against ti M3G4 Corp)
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Quiz
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Posted - 2003.08.14 13:40:00 -
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People dont like podding because it hurts their pride. But I agree, if I somehow failed to run a blockade, I would prefer a podding. If not, I will just self-destruct anyway just to get home fast.
I move my clone and self-destruct on a regular basis just to avoid 30-40 jump trips between systems. 
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.08.14 14:06:00 -
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Prolly risking a podding for myself here, but as I rarley visit 1.0 systems or 0.0 I will take the risk.
Tank CEO is guttless, he was in Amaar the other night just podding people, he had a go at 3 of our members, nothing was lost except respect of M3G4 corp.
I have nothing againt player rats, they are part of the game, if they pod thay pod, if I kill them I get a bounty, if I get away, well tomorow is another day.
I believe Tank has been banned if so well done CCP
(watching my back against ti M3G4 Corp)
Dem
What did he fly?
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.08.14 14:39:00 -
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I don't care what favor you think you do me, if you kill me you're on the ****list for good.
People like the original posters here are the lowest scum there is in this game, hope you get lagged and lose all your stuff real soon.
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Hank
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Posted - 2003.08.14 14:53:00 -
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i was podded by axelay with no warning at all. all i was flying was a imicus and nothing in my hold it was totally pointless. cos it was my first time being killed it feked me off even more :)
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2003.08.14 15:00:00 -
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Edited by: Nirvy on 14/08/2003 15:02:29
Edited by: Nirvy on 14/08/2003 15:01:50
Ha Hetjan,
Met you blockading BVIP-9 yesterday, almost managed to take you out when i came across you there, sadly i was too dumb to realise you wouldnt come back alone again :P
I even tried convo'ing you to say good job on taking me out..but you just denied the request..so no idea how your gonna extort money
PS when your Blackbird friend had me Locked out and stasised, that would have been the perfect time to ask me for money 
As for Podding me..thanks, after i lost my ship i would have done it myself anyways to save the 30 jump back home 
Anyway, see you tonight, got a hand ful of friends i want you to meet :)
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Zell
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Posted - 2003.08.14 15:02:00 -
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Didn't you know?
It makes griefers proud when they can take thier battleship with 19 of thier closet friends and kill newbes in ibis's.
The fear these newbe ships must instill
The huge sums of scordite and velspar they must garner
Oh look I finally got a cargo expander! Wow im uber now..
I think ill come to the EVE boards and tout my tactial prowness for all to see...
Yep, hey everone, im a god now, look i killed a newbe, im a grei--, er pirate!
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SuicideFred
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Posted - 2003.08.14 16:13:00 -
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pls tell me why is poding so BAD and is poding a way of griefing players ?
Because when you steal from someone or pod them you're taking something that doesn't belong to you:
Their time.
If a player works for hours or days to get the items he's carrying and you stop him and steal them, you're stealing his time.
You're stealing the time he took to mine, trade, make, or find those items.
The items are not real. The time you steal is.
Being robbed and forced to redo days of work causes grief.
That makes you and anybody else that decides to waylay his fellow players a griefer.
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Demitri Klashnikov
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Posted - 2003.08.14 16:41:00 -
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My opinion is the only resourse is time in an rpg or a mmorg
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Ywev
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Posted - 2003.08.14 19:00:00 -
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People that say your a griefer because you pod them is a old term, It was used just now as the word exploit is used. They want you to think that you are going to get in trouble for "griefing" them. It's crap. Just pod them, Most people tend to thank me for podding them.
Pod ya later..
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Salazar N'terre
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Posted - 2003.08.14 21:56:00 -
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Ah well if i dont get podded i would thoroughly be ****ed off. I would have the F@#$'n long trip home to think about. Griefing is when you pod some one in empire space. Its just part of the job of a pirate to operate in non-empire space as they see fit. Its the lawlessness of being out there. Whoever has the guns makes the rules.
Now ive never been podded, but thats what spendin all that hard isk means. Buyin a clone for that one day, sh*t happens.
Ive run a bunch of your blockades, and had the exhilarating feeling of, is this the day i wake up from the cloning facility.
Non-Carebear
signin out.
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Shock
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Posted - 2003.08.14 22:07:00 -
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Just pod them, Most people tend to thank me for podding them.
You shouldn't listen to the voices in your head...they are tricking you...
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Hetjan
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Posted - 2003.08.14 22:51:00 -
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Edited by: Nirvy on 14/08/2003 15:02:29
Edited by: Nirvy on 14/08/2003 15:01:50
Ha Hetjan,
Met you blockading BVIP-9 yesterday, almost managed to take you out when i came across you there, sadly i was too dumb to realise you wouldnt come back alone again :P
I even tried convo'ing you to say good job on taking me out..but you just denied the request..so no idea how your gonna extort money
PS when your Blackbird friend had me Locked out and stasised, that would have been the perfect time to ask me for money
As for Podding me..thanks, after i lost my ship i would have done it myself anyways to save the 30 jump back home
Anyway, see you tonight, got a hand ful of friends i want you to meet :)
It was my Friend Hatur that you met first at the gate and shot to peaces :). Never had as much fun as when we came in on 2 mallers and one Blackbird and you guys on 1 MOA and 1 Rupture and a blackbird allso I got shot at once for a dmg of 2.8 and hatur got about 2-3 shots at him and we managed to kill 1 rupture and 1 Blackbird but to bad there was nothing we could do to the MOA as he mwd away :)
Thanks for the nice action gg
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Triniton
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Posted - 2003.08.14 22:54:00 -
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That was mad fun and a fair fight(witch u dont see alot of) gg
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Hematic
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Posted - 2003.08.14 23:25:00 -
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""killing newbies in 1.0 sys ?
no one actualy does that do they ?
what sort of low life scum would resort to such a thing.....
Molly you dont do this do you ?""
LMAO
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SOL0
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Posted - 2003.08.14 23:41:00 -
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Edited by: SOL0 on 14/08/2003 23:43:05
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did i miss something here ?
killing newbies in 1.0 sys ?
no one actualy does that do they ?
what sort of low life scum would resort to such a thing.....
Molly you dont do this do you ?
Tank CEO was banned for exploiting in Amarr secure space. Good, go to hell M3G4.
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2003.08.15 05:25:00 -
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Edited by: Nirvy on 15/08/2003 05:30:30
Edited by: Nirvy on 15/08/2003 05:28:45
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That was mad fun and a fair fight(witch u dont see alot of) gg
Shame i lost my ship, i was about 2 secs from jumping out of the system too.
If the guy helping me in the blackbird had any EW fitted if may have been a diff story. Although it was a nice change to have two people offer to help me break your blockade
You guys should watch local better, when i warped in and managed to take Hatur by suprise, people were offering you money to pass or to people able to take hatur out, when i realised it was just the one of you i decided i could handle it. (i was screaming when he warped away just as my last 2 Thunderbolt's were about to finish off the ship, couldnt beleive i forgot to put my warp scrambler on autorepeat lol grrr)
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Posted - 2003.08.15 17:23:00 -
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Hetja and Hatur, dont have to ask where u com from. G¾ rµningjan÷fn samt hjß ykkur.
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Hetjan
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Posted - 2003.08.15 17:57:00 -
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Hetja and Hatur, dont have to ask where u com from. G¾ rµningjan÷fn samt hjß ykkur.
Hehe takk takk
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Admiral Tarkin
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Posted - 2003.08.15 19:25:00 -
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To the OP: Why ask us? YOU know if you're a griefer or not. Do you pod people to satisfy an immature need to feel powerful over helpless newbs? Chances are you're a griefer.
Do you pod people to harvest biomass? Are you RPing a total nutjob psycho? Chances are you're not a griefer.
Is an RL pirate responsible for going easy on people he robs from? Adhering to a code of honor? Maybe if you are the Robert Louis Stevenson kind of pirate. If you're the kind of real life pirate who hunts down wealthy retired couples in the South Pacific and murders and/or ransoms them off, then no.
So forget about the carebears. Ignore others' judgement of you. If you're RPing, pod away.
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Triniton
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Posted - 2003.08.15 22:57:00 -
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I pod kill for biomass! HARR ea eitthva ßlÝka :]
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Lao Tzu
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Posted - 2003.08.15 23:31:00 -
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I pod so I can use the corpses for Voodoo
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Wolf Leader
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Posted - 2003.08.16 07:26:00 -
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Poddings no bigge ive had numerous people ask me to pod them to get them where they are goin faster.**** ive podded myself 8-10 times cause i didnt want to maek a 40 jump trip to pick up something. And on a side note the only reason pirates pod noob ships shuttles in noob corps is because some people think they are really slick and try to sneak by thinking that we wont fire on a noob ship. For me everything is a target to be pirated. If i donthave a cargo scanner ***** goes the noob ship it only takes 3 or 4 hits. All the noob has to do is go dock and if hes not a noob hey i just got some loot
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yarr
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Posted - 2003.08.16 08:57:00 -
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I don't care what favor you think you do me, if you kill me you're on the ****list for good.
People like the original posters here are the lowest scum there is in this game, hope you get lagged and lose all your stuff real soon.
doesn't take much to get on your ****list, by all accounts. You're the guy who said you would pod me just for my name... And anyone who uses a number in their title...
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Posted - 2003.08.16 11:23:00 -
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I don't care what favor you think you do me, if you kill me you're on the ****list for good.
People like the original posters here are the lowest scum there is in this game, hope you get lagged and lose all your stuff real soon.
doesn't take much to get on your ****list, by all accounts. You're the guy who said you would pod me just for my name... And anyone who uses a number in their title...
god help yarr12345
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.08.18 00:41:00 -
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Edited by: Skillz on 18/08/2003 18:21:44
I podkill people for talking sh1t.
Jana Othel's Frozen Corpse
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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