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IronCat Maulerant
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.07.11 11:49:00 -
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Well done for standardising the launcher's look between Windows and Mac however due to not being able to store your password on the client I have copied and pasted my password in each time (and then cleared my clipboard immediately) as I use deliberately complex 14+ character passwords containing a mix of symbols, numbers, lowercase and uppercase letters. The new launcher does not allow you to use the paste function. I understand the concern about allowing the password to be stored on the client (although a "Use at your own risk" warning should be added along with the ability to store it within the client) but this pasting restriction now only encourages me to use a short, simple password making it less secure than a) being able to store it on the client and b) being able to paste it in.
I know there are likely to be responses to the effect of "What's the big deal? just type it lazy!", it may be lazy but it is an unnecessary ball ache. |
Talemecus Valta
Freemasons Corporation
137
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Posted - 2013.07.11 12:00:00 -
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I've not got the new mac launcher yet and I'm looking forward to it.
Can someone post screenshots of it please?
As for the pasting function not working, I think it could have been a lot worse.
Only 40 rounds per gun... I hate reloading in the middle!
I'll make it through each day, Singing DEATH OR GLORY!!!!
Hodor! |
Jabloni
Hedion University Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.07.11 12:08:00 -
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Talemecus Valta wrote:I've not got the new mac launcher yet and I'm looking forward to it.
Can someone post screenshots of it please?
As for the pasting function not working, I think it could have been a lot worse.
Very much depends on what you're password approach is. If you use generated passwords for max security it's a real pain.
I've spotted that if you invoke the internal Eve Package you still get the username/password prompt and you can still paste in the password. I've created a soft link and will use it most of the time and only revert to the launcher if i need to do a patch. |
IronCat Maulerant
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2013.07.11 12:18:00 -
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Talemecus Valta wrote:I've not got the new mac launcher yet and I'm looking forward to it.
Can someone post screenshots of it please?
As for the pasting function not working, I think it could have been a lot worse.
Screen shot |
IronCat Maulerant
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2013.07.11 12:22:00 -
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Jabloni wrote:Talemecus Valta wrote:I've not got the new mac launcher yet and I'm looking forward to it.
Can someone post screenshots of it please?
As for the pasting function not working, I think it could have been a lot worse.
Very much depends on what you're password approach is. If you use generated passwords for max security it's a real pain. I've spotted that if you invoke the internal Eve Package you still get the username/password prompt and you can still paste in the password. I've created a soft link and will use it most of the time and only revert to the launcher if i need to do a patch.
Ha! Very nice ty the multiple client tool opens the old login screen :)
Yes i do use a generator. |
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GM Karidor
Game Masters C C P Alliance
904
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Posted - 2013.07.11 12:52:00 -
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We already know of the pasting issue and will of course fix this. Unfortunately, this problem has been brought to our attention too late for a fix to still make it into this release, but we did not consider this to be a showstopper to prevent the release of the launcher altogether, even though we realize it is of course troublesome for those that are affected by this. GM Karidor | Senior Game Master |
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Talemecus Valta
Freemasons Corporation
137
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Posted - 2013.07.11 12:58:00 -
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Thanks for the screenshot.
Will have to give it a try when I get home in 3 hrs,
Only 40 rounds per gun... I hate reloading in the middle!
I'll make it through each day, Singing DEATH OR GLORY!!!!
Hodor! |
Basik Omaristos
Templar's Cheesecake Factory Joined Brotherhood
0
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Posted - 2013.07.11 13:10:00 -
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GM Karidor wrote:We already know of the pasting issue and will of course fix this. Unfortunately, this problem has been brought to our attention too late for a fix to still make it into this release, but we did not consider this to be a showstopper to prevent the release of the launcher altogether, even though we realize it is of course troublesome for those that are affected by this.
Any idea when a fixed launcher will be released? In the interim, I can try Jabloni's workaround, or just spend 10 minutes every day typing in my 64 character RANDOM password.
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Aegis Solaris
2017
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Posted - 2013.07.11 13:37:00 -
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Use the Clonemaker to make a clone of your client. When you run it you do not get the launcher, but a star field splash screen with a log in section at the bottom. In that log in, the slot for the password can be filled via a paste. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
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GM Karidor
Game Masters C C P Alliance
904
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Posted - 2013.07.11 14:05:00 -
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Basik Omaristos wrote:GM Karidor wrote:We already know of the pasting issue and will of course fix this. Unfortunately, this problem has been brought to our attention too late for a fix to still make it into this release, but we did not consider this to be a showstopper to prevent the release of the launcher altogether, even though we realize it is of course troublesome for those that are affected by this. Any idea when a fixed launcher will be released? In the interim, I can try Jabloni's workaround, or just spend 10 minutes every day typing in my 64 character RANDOM password.
Unfortunately, there is no exact ETA yet, other than "as soon as we can possibly push the change out safely". Until then, the workarounds already posted here (using the CloneMaker tool to start a cloned client) are probably your best bet if you rely on pasting your password into the password field. GM Karidor | Senior Game Master |
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IronCat Maulerant
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2013.07.11 14:56:00 -
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GM Karidor wrote:Basik Omaristos wrote:GM Karidor wrote:We already know of the pasting issue and will of course fix this. Unfortunately, this problem has been brought to our attention too late for a fix to still make it into this release, but we did not consider this to be a showstopper to prevent the release of the launcher altogether, even though we realize it is of course troublesome for those that are affected by this. Any idea when a fixed launcher will be released? In the interim, I can try Jabloni's workaround, or just spend 10 minutes every day typing in my 64 character RANDOM password. Unfortunately, there is no exact ETA yet, other than "as soon as we can possibly push the change out safely". Until then, the workarounds already posted here (using the CloneMaker tool to start a cloned client) are probably your best bet if you rely on pasting your password into the password field.
That's great to know! Thanks for taking the time to respond! o7 |
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
379
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:48:00 -
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I just published a build to Singularity that has the right click menu functionality enabled in the EVE Launcher (for both Windows and Mac). Product Owner, EVE Launcher | Team Special Circumstances |
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Grinlin en Cedoulain
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:52:00 -
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Since the update, i'm not able to run eve anymore. It always says: Konto f++r EVE-SSO-CONNECTION wurde deaktiviert Letzte Anmeldung: None Anzahl der Besuche: 0 Grund: Konto-Abonnement abgelaufen!
Jetzt abonnieren und weiterspielen!
But i don't think it has my credentials, because i have a valid account. Very sad!
How can i disable the autoplay?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15446
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Posted - 2013.07.11 18:07:00 -
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WellGǪ when I first updated the launcher, it shat itself inside out and got EVE Online.app flagged as Gǣcannot be run on this OSGǥ.
I could still go into the app package, find the actual launcher app inside it and launch from there, which at the moment seems to have updated and fixed the app so it can be run again. However, I'm guessing that the patcher is doing something it shouldn't be doing inside the app package that makes it mistrusted and/or just incorrectly configured as far as OSX goes. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Grinlin en Cedoulain
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.11 18:20:00 -
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Ok, got it running again. Somehow managed to disable the autoplay and switched accounts. Now it works.
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Sheanne Rakis
Imperial Tectonics Limited
0
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Posted - 2013.07.11 18:23:00 -
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I found workaround to paste login/password on Mac - just select text and drag and drop. It works for me.
P. S. Sorry for my English. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Aegis Solaris
2017
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Posted - 2013.07.11 18:31:00 -
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Sheanne Rakis wrote:I found workaround to paste login/password on Mac - just select text and drag and drop. It works for me.
P. S. Sorry for my English. Confirmed! Good find! http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Utremi Fasolasi
The Jagged Edge Rebel Alliance of New Eden
263
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:02:00 -
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IronCat Maulerant wrote:Well done for standardising the launcher's look between Windows and Mac however due to not being able to store your password on the client I have copied and pasted my password in each time (and then cleared my clipboard immediately) as I use deliberately complex 14+ character passwords containing a mix of symbols, numbers, lowercase and uppercase letters.
https://xkcd.com/936/ |
Salpun
Paramount Commerce
523
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Posted - 2013.07.12 05:56:00 -
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Windows client copy and paste works good. Like the auto launch after pasting now not having to hit enter twice is a great fix. |
Pat0chan
Fake World
35
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Posted - 2013.07.12 15:49:00 -
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Hi fellow Mac pilots, Since the new launcher i can't run my 3 accounts. how do you do it? Before i used to edit the text within the application (eveonline1, eveonline2, eveonline3) and the game was starting 3 clients. doesnt work anymore. Thanks |
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Aegis Solaris
2025
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:22:00 -
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Try running the launcher 3 times. Run the launcher, log in one account. Go back to the Finder, run the launcher again, and so on. Don't rename any files. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Pat0chan
Fake World
35
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:58:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Try running the launcher 3 times. Run the launcher, log in one account. Go back to the Finder, run the launcher again, and so on. Don't rename any files.
so i just need 1 Eve file? |
Arthur Aihaken
The.VOID
34
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Posted - 2013.07.13 10:41:00 -
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I found the "AutoPlay" feature occasionally locks the launcher up. Had to disable it to get it to launch EVE. |
Templar Knightsbane
The Konvergent League Sev3rance
54
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Posted - 2013.07.13 11:02:00 -
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Pat0chan wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:Try running the launcher 3 times. Run the launcher, log in one account. Go back to the Finder, run the launcher again, and so on. Don't rename any files. so i just need 1 Eve file?
yes, this is how i run my 2 clients, by opening just one eve client twice. |
Lelira Cirim
1
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Posted - 2013.07.13 11:36:00 -
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Pleased to say the launcher has been no trouble and a nice experience so far. Both on my 2009 Macbook running 10.6.8 and 2012 iMac 10.7.5 (soon to be 10.8.x).
I don't do anything complicated with it, just log in and go, but that's all I ask for, especially after my problems before with needing to redownload the client after patches.
Just did a quick test during downtime, and it's very nice that one can log in and hit Play when the server pops back online!
While I would've missed the old login screen, it was kind of bland since Odyssey. I was very fond of the spoke-wheel research station.
My #1 request at this point is a Switch Character button. The in game escape menu got rid of its Log Off, understandably. Having to quit and restart is about the same speed as before (maybe a little longer). If switching characters is possible without having to reload all assets and data that would be a boon for dual-trainers like myself. It's something that modern MMOs are slowwwwly catching up with (STO) if they didn't have the feature from the beginning (TOR). |
Templar Knightsbane
The Konvergent League Sev3rance
54
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Posted - 2013.07.13 11:38:00 -
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edit - oops wrong thread |
Invisusira
The Rising Stars The Initiative.
178
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Posted - 2013.07.13 18:14:00 -
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New launcher's annoying and even less optimized for the Mac than EVE itself is.
Basic UI 101 stuff that needs to be fixed:
1) Command key doesn't work. I can't Command-A to Select All when I type in the wrong password.
2) Logging in twice? Why do I log into the launcher, and then the game? And why do I have to CLICK the second button; why do I have to manually pres buton with the mouse? Why can't I just hit return twice?
basically stop making me take my hands off the keyboard, ****'s novice yo Core Skills - train em up train em up! |
Tiger Bite
Data Sheets
1
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Posted - 2013.07.13 18:14:00 -
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I run both Windows Version and Mac Version. While they do look alike they function differently.
The Mac Client Launcher :
- has to load the launcher for every client you want to run and closes. this does not happen on the Windows version.
- No longer remembers User name in the drop down box. The Windows Version does but does not alphabetize them. (Note: After rebooting it only remembered the last logged in user name. However that is the only name it remembers none of my other usernames are remembered even if I last logged in other name and rebooted.)
- For people that run Multi Clients the Launcher needs to be able to stay running and allow Multi Logins with play buttons listed on one page. (Currently they log in on one page and play on other page with Switch user account under play button.) Switch User account is Useless on MAC since launcher closes after Play button is pressed.
- While on Windows version (will affect MAC version also when they fix it) having the launcher running at all times with a Play button is a nice feature for when the server closes socket, allowing me to get back up and running quicker. However, when server goes down the Launcher does not recognize this and the play button appears none functional. I have to manually switch char and re-login.
- When I want to re-login using the ESC Menu re-log button is gone and I have to quit game to change characters. However, on MAC version I have to re-launch launcher and login then click play. where on Windows version I just click PLAY from Launcher assuming I run only one account. Multi Accounts have to switch characters, login then play.
Overall, I like the new Launcher only if I were running one account. This launcher needs to be more user friendly for multi user accounts. Please change the MAC and Windows Launcher to login and have Multi user Play buttons on one page for say 15-20 accounts.
Regards, Tiger Bite
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Gordon Riddle
Cuisinart Inc.
0
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Posted - 2013.07.14 01:59:00 -
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Just throwing my hat in with the folks who want paste support. |
Shahir Khani
Exploration Express Engineering and Explosions
0
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Posted - 2013.07.14 18:52:00 -
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I am also very annoyed by the copy-paste issue since I also use long, randomly generated passwords that I definitely don't want to type by hand.
Also, how can this happen in the first place? Copy/Paste is a feature that the OS provides for basically any text input element. You have to either use some really f***ed up GUI-Libs/Frameworks or intentionally break this. |
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Sol Nieghtder
Exclusion Cartel The Kadeshi
4
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Posted - 2013.07.14 23:14:00 -
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Tiger Bite wrote:[*] No longer remembers User name in the drop down box. The Windows Version does but does not alphabetize them. (Note: After rebooting it only remembered the last logged in user name. However that is the only name it remembers none of my other usernames are remembered even if I last logged in other name and rebooted.) I too have the same issue; however my launcher seems to only remember 2 userids. |
Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC The Last Chancers.
592
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Posted - 2013.07.15 04:08:00 -
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Shahir Khani wrote:Also, how can this happen in the first place? Copy/Paste is a feature that the OS provides for basically any text input element. You have to either use some really f***ed up GUI-Libs/Frameworks or intentionally break this.
It's an embedded web page, so it's using whatever web form technology they adopted, not the native Mac widgets. Thinking of it as a web page makes the, ah, singular behaviors of the widgets somewhat less alarming.
I would really like the Launcher to be able to persist after launching an EVE client. As it is, between that and the fact that it only remembers the last account name I entered, it still doesn't support multiple accounts more smoothly than the Clonemaker does.
And I'm not sure if this is related, but the game is much less stable now. I have roughly 1 in 8 odds of the game crashing on a session change--just now, that session change was my first undock after logging in! That was not true until I got the update with the new launcher.
[EDIT: I will kiss the CCP dev who maps the PLAY button to the Enter key.]
Mac OS X 10.8.4 (12E55), all patches applied iMac 27", late 2012 2.9GHz Intel Core i5 8GB 1600MHz DDR3 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M 512MB Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables. |
Lanu
0utbreak Outbreak.
113
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:04:00 -
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Glad this this topic was already made. Damn what a nightmare having to type the passwords.
I use 64 character long random passwords for all my accounts, having to type them over is nearly impossible.
And then I have to change skills on 5 of them. Typical first world issues but I still hope they get fixed fast! |
Call Rollard
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
60
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:23:00 -
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Since this new launcher I can no longer connect to Duality which I'd do via Terminal. New launcher keeps on connecting to Tranquility and not Duality.
What are the instructions to connect to Duality using the new launcher? |
Shahir Khani
Exploration Express Engineering and Explosions
1
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Posted - 2013.07.15 22:41:00 -
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Dersen Lowery wrote:Shahir Khani wrote:Also, how can this happen in the first place? Copy/Paste is a feature that the OS provides for basically any text input element. You have to either use some really f***ed up GUI-Libs/Frameworks or intentionally break this. It's an embedded web page, so it's using whatever web form technology they adopted, not the native Mac widgets. Thinking of it as a web page makes the, ah, singular behaviors of the widgets somewhat less alarming.
Using a web page is not an explanation or even an excuse for this lack of copy-paste support. Web form fields usually support it just like any other text input field.
There are other web pages that prevent pasting, like the login page on battle.net for example, but to achieve that the developers have to actively prohibit pasting. |
Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC The Last Chancers.
602
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Posted - 2013.07.16 02:38:00 -
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Shahir Khani wrote:Dersen Lowery wrote:[quote=Shahir Khani]Also, how can this happen in the first place? Copy/Paste is a feature that the OS provides for basically any text input element. You have to either use some really f***ed up GUI-Libs/Frameworks or intentionally break this. It's an embedded web page, so it's using whatever web form technology they adopted, not the native Mac widgets. Thinking of it as a web page makes the, ah, singular behaviors of the widgets somewhat less alarming.
Using a web page is not an explanation or even an excuse for this lack of copy-paste support. Web form fields usually support it just like any other text input field.[/quote[
Unless they specifically disabled it on the password field, for security reasons.
I've used the Clonemaker to launch EVE clients for quite a while now, and it still works nicely. I've only launched the Launcher when there was an update to install. Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables. |
Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
102
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Posted - 2013.07.16 11:40:00 -
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New launcher patch came through, password pasting is still broken and the text dragging workaround no longer works either :/ |
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
379
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Posted - 2013.07.16 13:56:00 -
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Elizabeth Aideron wrote:New launcher patch came through, password pasting is still broken and the text dragging workaround no longer works either :/ You can use the right click menu to paste; keyboard pasting is being worked on. Product Owner, EVE Launcher | Team Special Circumstances |
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
379
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Posted - 2013.07.16 18:44:00 -
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I've just deployed a new version to Singularity that has the select all, cut, copy, paste, undo and redo functionality exposed from the browser instance. Feel free to give it a whirl. Product Owner, EVE Launcher | Team Special Circumstances |
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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1039
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Posted - 2013.07.19 10:22:00 -
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CCP Atropos wrote:I've just deployed a new version to Singularity that has the select all, cut, copy, paste, undo and redo functionality exposed from the browser instance. Feel free to give it a whirl.
Uhm, it would be really nice too if it could remember more then 2 accounts. |
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Lixia Saran
Reasonable People Of Sound Mind
25
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Posted - 2013.07.20 08:59:00 -
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When can we expect the launcher to be compatible with retina displays? Right now it looks terribly pixelated. |
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
381
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Posted - 2013.07.20 15:40:00 -
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Lixia Saran wrote:When can we expect the launcher to be compatible with retina displays? Right now it looks terribly pixelated. I don't know. I don't know if the UI framework we're using has any support for Retina displays. Product Owner, EVE Launcher | Team Special Circumstances |
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Raphael Morgenstern
Tech-5-Inc.
0
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Posted - 2013.07.21 12:11:00 -
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Having problems getting EVE client to open. Downloaded client and installed. The updater updated the Launcher automatically. Have just tried to open EVE but get the following pop-up:
EVE Online Error (there are then two options - Console or Terminate, and as Console provides no information for today's date, Terminate is the only option)
Can anyone help? |
Emesine
Genstar Inc Villore Accords
0
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Posted - 2013.07.22 03:03:00 -
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Raphael Morgenstern wrote:Having problems getting EVE client to open. Downloaded client and installed. The updater updated the Launcher automatically. Have just tried to open EVE but get the following pop-up:
EVE Online Error (there are then two options - Console or Terminate, and as Console provides no information for today's date, Terminate is the only option)
Can anyone help?
Same problem here for the past two weeks. I'm not getting much response on this issue. |
Lixia Saran
Reasonable People Of Sound Mind
26
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Posted - 2013.07.22 17:43:00 -
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CCP Atropos wrote:Lixia Saran wrote:When can we expect the launcher to be compatible with retina displays? Right now it looks terribly pixelated. I don't know. I don't know if the UI framework we're using has any support for Retina displays.
The worst offenders are actually the fonts and core osx ui elements. I'm not a programmer so I won't attempt to propose something that probably will end up being nonsense, but it'll be nice if it could be looked at for a future launcher update. |
Sick Boy
Burning Napalm Northern Coalition.
0
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Posted - 2013.07.23 13:02:00 -
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The new launcher must have a limit as to the number of account names it can hold. I didnt count but I cant get all my account names to save. Please tell me you can fix this? |
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
381
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Posted - 2013.07.23 13:54:00 -
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Emesine wrote:Raphael Morgenstern wrote:Having problems getting EVE client to open. Downloaded client and installed. The updater updated the Launcher automatically. Have just tried to open EVE but get the following pop-up:
EVE Online Error (there are then two options - Console or Terminate, and as Console provides no information for today's date, Terminate is the only option)
Can anyone help? Same problem here for the past two weeks. I'm not getting much response on this issue. I replied to you saying that you're running a version of OSX that's unsupported. Since other people have reported an issue with that version (10.5.8) and we don't support it, your best bet would be to update your OSX. Product Owner, EVE Launcher | Team Special Circumstances |
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Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC The Last Chancers.
639
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Posted - 2013.07.23 15:46:00 -
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The launcher's working well for me now. It remembers all three account names, which is nice.
I will still kiss the dev who maps the PLAY button to the enter key-- unless that's delaying implementation, in which case I won't. Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables. |
Tiger Bite
Data Sheets
3
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Posted - 2013.08.20 17:00:00 -
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CCP Atropos, GM Karidor,
You got the Launcher working ok, on SiSi pre 1.1, in the sense that, It would stay active on Mac after hitting play button. Now that SiSi 1.1 is out there are major issues which are supposedly being addressed by "CCP Gangleri" using a work around the launcher failing to upgrade, Miserably.
Just wondering if your teams are working together.
See: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=268553&find=unread
Also, is this Thread a break from: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=230690&find=unread
If so they should be merged.
Regards, Tiger Bite |
Kira Dawn
Unleashed' Fury Forsaken Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.11.14 07:54:00 -
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Raphael Morgenstern wrote:Having problems getting EVE client to open. Downloaded client and installed. The updater updated the Launcher automatically. Have just tried to open EVE but get the following pop-up:
EVE Online Error (there are then two options - Console or Terminate, and as Console provides no information for today's date, Terminate is the only option)
Can anyone help?
I know that they said that the older version of mac are not supported. I was getting this exact same problem..
I fixed it by upgrading my python to current (default mac ships with 2.5.1 current is 3.4)
After I upgraded it I had to adjust my "PATH" environment variable, and then I ran the client form 'open -a EVE Online.app" and it now works.
Again.. This is "DO at your own risk" and not likely supported... but Wanted to post how I got it to work on my Mac OSX 5.8 |
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