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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:46:00 -
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I was going to ask if CCP was ever going to leverage White Wolf's expertise in the RPG market, but a little Googling showed me that there were plans at one time to develop an Eve RPG.
The RPG market right now has very few decent choices for sci-fi, the dark world of Eve seems a perfect fit for White Wolf's writers, and tabletop gamers love the dystopian kind of feel too. Knowing that the project was started, but was later put on the shelf, really feels like a lost opportunity. Are there any plans to revive the project?
CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
2897
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:57:00 -
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Perhaps you missed the EVE card game that went over so well.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:59:00 -
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MehGǪ Traveller 5 is out already.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
2897
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Posted - 2013.07.12 18:03:00 -
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Tippia wrote:MehGǪ Traveller 5 is out already.
After sooooooooo long.
I think I sent Marc my money for it back in 2006.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Andrea Griffin
561
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Posted - 2013.07.12 18:06:00 -
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Never was impressed with Traveler on the whole. It does have an excellent section for building space ships though; I've stolen that and plopped into other games from time to time.
CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer. |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
688
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Posted - 2013.07.12 18:07:00 -
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CVA -> that way.....
I too am excited about trading playability for more lag and shiny pictures.....:(
Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
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RomeStar
Empire Investments Logistics
223
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Posted - 2013.07.12 18:08:00 -
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The same day Dust becomes relevant.
Signatured removed, CCP Phantom |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2009
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Posted - 2013.07.12 18:09:00 -
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It seems to have been shelved pretty quickly as part of the whole 'oops we bought White Wolf on a drunken whim what were we thinking' fallout post-financial crash.
Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
5018
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Posted - 2013.07.12 18:29:00 -
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You approach the mining barge.
Roll the D4 to see if you can target.
You are out of targeting range.
Roll the D4 to see if you can target.
Target locked.
Roll the D10 to see if you scramble.
You scrambled the miner!
Roll D20 to see how long you have before CONCORD shows up.
You have 15 seconds.
Roll D10 to see if you hit the miner with your blaster.
You hit the miner with your blaster!
Roll the D20 for damage.
You hit the miner for 120 damage!
Roll the D20 for damage.
You hit the miner for 150 damage!
CONCORD has arrived!
CONCORD rolls D20 to apply damage!
You find yourself in a pod.
Eve RPG.
******* kill me now.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
433
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Posted - 2013.07.12 18:42:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Eve RPG.
******* kill me now.
Damn, miss the good old 20 sided dice.....
"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
~George Orwell
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
2115
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Posted - 2013.07.12 18:50:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Eve RPG.
******* kill me now. Damn, miss the good old 20 sided dice.....
You've never been a real gamer unless you have stepped on a d4.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
433
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Posted - 2013.07.12 18:53:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:You've never been a real gamer unless you have stepped on a d4.
Prefer 20 sided for better real gamer stats. 
"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
~George Orwell
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Andrea Griffin
561
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:01:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Damn, miss the good old 20 sided dice..... I'll never miss playing d20 systems. Those d20s are giant chaos engines. Fudge works well, the StoryTeller system works well, 3d6 systems work well. Modifiers to the roll actually mean something when you have some kind of normal curve.
CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer. |
Jorden Ishonen
Kinetic Technologies
34
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:11:00 -
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Shadowrun. Screw your d20, I have ALL THE D6s.
Actually, an EVE CRPG would be pretty interesting if done right. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15457
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:16:00 -
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D20? PffGǪ that system was outdated and obsolete before it was even released GÇö I'd say somewhere around 1980 or so.
BRP, Storytelling, hell even the D6 avalanche of Shadowrun beats it silly. 
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami
The Cursed Few
429
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:44:00 -
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Andrea Griffin wrote:I was going to ask if CCP was ever going to leverage White Wolf's expertise in the RPG market, but a little Googling showed me that there were plans at one time to develop an Eve RPG. The RPG market right now has very few decent choices for sci-fi, the dark world of Eve seems a perfect fit for White Wolf's writers, and tabletop gamers love the dystopian kind of feel too. Knowing that the project was started, but was later put on the shelf, really feels like a lost opportunity. Are there any plans to revive the project?
Maybe after the t.v show(mini-series??) takes off and is a hit...
"Never rub another man's rhubarb." -Joker in Batman (Jack Nicholson)
Just get a catalyst, blow him up and the post in local "Just a friendly reminder that I'm mining here and not you." -Abrazzar
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Riot Girl
Thundercats
The Initiative.
1329
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:45:00 -
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That awkward moment when you realise everyone around you is twice your age.
Oh god. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4352
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:00:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:That awkward moment when you realise everyone around you is twice your age.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Anna Karhunen
Inoue INEXP
84
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:39:00 -
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Ahh... tabletop RPGs. Good old times. Though LARPing was fun too (I sort of approached army time as LARP - with good success).
Fun thing about roleplaying is that you don't really need rules. All you need is good people with imagination and mutual trust. The rest can be worked out. No dice are needed either, though they do make nice sound on hard surfaces. When GMing I used to roll only for sound and made up the numbers so that things developed interesting. Worked perfectly. |
Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami
The Cursed Few
429
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:44:00 -
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Anna Karhunen wrote:Ahh... tabletop RPGs. Good old times. Though LARPing was fun too (I sort of approached army time as LARP - with good success).
Fun thing about roleplaying is that you don't really need rules. All you need is good people with imagination and mutual trust. The rest can be worked out. No dice are needed either, though they do make nice sound on hard surfaces. When GMing I used to roll only for sound and made up the numbers so that things developed interesting. Worked perfectly.
This.
I have also (back when I was a GM) created "alternative reality" games that were mixed of different systems as well as had true open world platforms for games (including super hero stuff).
It definitely makes for some good meta game when you ST/DM/GM a game and have to come up with scenarios, not to mention it lengthens your view in the world of "consequences"(not the drinking game).
"Never rub another man's rhubarb." -Joker in Batman (Jack Nicholson)
Just get a catalyst, blow him up and the post in local "Just a friendly reminder that I'm mining here and not you." -Abrazzar
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
1670
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:59:00 -
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Tippia wrote:D20? PffGǪ that system was outdated and obsolete before it was even released GÇö I'd say somewhere around 1980 or so. BRP, Storytelling, hell even the D6 avalanche of Shadowrun beats it silly.
Just wait till you need 40 odd d10s for playing Exalted. ;)
At least it's not Deadlands. That has weird probability curves due to using all the regular dice types for stats in varying numbers. is 4d6 better than 2d12? ;)
Steve Ronuken for CSM 9!-á I'm starting early :)
Handy tools and an SDE conversion
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Whitehound
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Posted - 2013.07.12 21:07:00 -
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You are in a gas nebula. You can go: north, south.
> south
You are in a gas nebula. You see 2 Gurista pirate(s). You can go: north, east, south.
> kill gurista
Your laser hits Gurista for 20 points.
Gurista hits you with scourge missile for 19 points.
Your laser hits Gurista for 20 points.
Gurista hits you with scourge missile for 19 points.
Your laser hits Gurista for 20 points.
Gurista hits you with scourge missile for 19 points.
Your laser hits Gurista for 20 points.
Gurista hits you with scourge missile for 19 points.
Your laser hits Gurista for 20 points.
Gurista dies.
You are in a gas nebula. You see 1 Gurista pirate(s) and 1 wreck(s). You can go: north, east, south.
> kill Gurista
Your laser hits Gurista for 20 points.
Gurista hits you with scourge missile for 19 points.
Your laser hits Gurista for 20 points.
Gurista hits you with scourge missile for 19 points.
Your laser hits Gurista for 20 points.
Gurista hits you with scourge missile for 19 points.
Your laser hits Gurista for 20 points.
Gurista hits you with scourge missile for 19 points.
Your laser hits Gurista for 20 points.
Gurista dies.
You are in a gas nebula. You see 2 wreck(s). You can go: north, east, south.
> loot wreck
1 medium missile launcher
29 scourge missiles
You are in a gas nebula. You see 1 wreck(s). You can go: north, east, south.
> loot wreck
1 medium missile launcher
27 scourge missiles
1 militant
** You have received a message by agent Longtime Nosee. **
You are in a gas nebula. You can go: north, east, south.
>
Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
2903
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Posted - 2013.07.12 21:22:00 -
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O.K. now you've made me do it:
http://adarkroom.doublespeakgames.com/
Furious Enterprises is not responsible if the above link results in the complete destruction of your productivity.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
433
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Posted - 2013.07.12 21:30:00 -
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Tippia wrote:D20? PffGǪ that system was outdated and obsolete before it was even released GÇö I'd say somewhere around 1980 or so.
It was out in 1978 when I started Advanced D&D, and still played at the conventions to after 1985.
"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
~George Orwell
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15461
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Posted - 2013.07.12 21:42:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Tippia wrote:D20? PffGǪ that system was outdated and obsolete before it was even released GÇö I'd say somewhere around 1980 or so. It was out in 1978 when I started Advanced D&D, and still played at the conventions to after 1985.
That's AD&D, not d20 (which was unleashed on the world in 2000). And AD&D providing the proto-form in 1977 just shows how outmoded the system is. The fact that it's being used to this day is probably on of the main reasons why pretty much all fantasy MMOs are flawed beyond redemption.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
MadMuppet
Three Fish In A Box
892
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Posted - 2013.07.12 23:03:00 -
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At least in the EVE RPG the monster table would say %LIAR and it would not be a typo this time.
I mine in EVE because I'm too drunk to fish in WoW.-á |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
433
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Posted - 2013.07.12 23:53:00 -
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Tippia wrote:
That's AD&D, not d20 (which was unleashed on the world in 2000). And AD&D providing the proto-form in 1977 just shows how outmoded the system is. The fact that it's being used to this day is probably on of the main reasons why pretty much all fantasy MMOs are flawed beyond redemption.
You're confusing the D20 character system (D&D 3.0) with d20.
Dice are lowered lettered.
And d20 dice existed before 2000... http://www.scribd.com/doc/49447879/Gamma-World-Rulebook
Proto-form? Old? In the day it was NEW. So new we were playing it at the conventions during the 80s still.
"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
~George Orwell
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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
433
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Posted - 2013.07.12 23:58:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:You are in a gas nebula. You can go: north, south.
> south
Have you seen some of the combat logs in MuDs that go for 3hrs?
It's book length!
"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
~George Orwell
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15466
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Posted - 2013.07.13 00:11:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:You're confusing the D20 character system (D&D 3.0) with d20.
Dice are lowered lettered. GǪyou mean like in the d20 System, sprung from D&D 3E? No, it's spelled with a small 'd'. You're just confused by my capitalising it at the beginning of a sentence.
Yes. Old. At this point, it's 36 years old and, while a neat idea at the time, it was deeply, fundamentally flawed (not surprisingly, since it was just a fancier version of a miniature battle system and since someone had to go first and five headlong into all the pitfalls), and has since been superseded by vastly better systems.
Just because it saw some limited revision and finally bloomed putrefied into the d20 System a quarter of decade later doesn't mean it's in any way modern.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Radius Prime
Tax Evading Ass.
93
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Posted - 2013.07.13 00:29:00 -
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EVE planet builder FTW. Can be the game Sim City failed to be and can interact with the EVE economy.
Capsuleers and Colonizers = C & C = another legendary title = This can only be the best idea ever!
Reopen the EVE gate so we can invade Serenity. Goons can go first. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3623
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Posted - 2013.07.13 00:34:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Just wait till you need 40 odd d10s for playing Exalted. ;)
Oh Exalted, you're so wacky.
When your Sidereal pickpockets the boss and gets his childhood memories, that's a special moment.
This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
434
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Posted - 2013.07.13 00:39:00 -
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Tippia wrote:[GǪyou mean like in the d20 System, sprung from D&D 3E? No, it's spelled with a small 'd'. You're just confused by my capitalising it at the beginning of a sentence.
No, you shouldn't rely on the internet for information you don't know about, Tippia.
You're getting your information from here ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D20_System ... yet you don't understand the difference.
If you did, you wouldn't even need to breech the D20 system, as I wasn't referring to it at all. 20 sided dice are used for rolling your character attributes, it meant nothing else.
Wordsmithing as usual.
"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
~George Orwell
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15466
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Posted - 2013.07.13 01:01:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:No, you shouldn't rely on the internet for information you don't know about, Tippia. I'm not. I'm relying on the owners of the related IPs for information. You know these guys, who have labelled their system the GÇ£d20 SystemGÇ¥ (lower-case GÇÿdGÇÖ).
Quote:If you did, you wouldn't even need to breech the D20 system, as I wasn't referring to it at all. So in other words, you completely misunderstood what I was referring to when I said that d20 was obsolete, or when I made the distinction between AD&D (the roots of the d20 System) and the d20 System itself?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
1325
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Posted - 2013.07.13 03:54:00 -
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Wait....Eve has a rocket propelled grenade?.....me want!
HTFU!...for the children! |
Kult Altol
Confederation Navy Research
Epsilon Fleet
590
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Posted - 2013.07.13 05:04:00 -
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I would like to see an eve table top game like wh40k. I just might make it.....
Can't wait untill when Eve online is Freemium. WiS only 10$, SP booster for one month 15$, DPS Boost 2$, EHP Boost 2$ Real money trading hub! Cosmeitic ship skins 15$ --> If you don't pay for a product, you ARE the product. |
Mark Rain
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2013.07.13 05:20:00 -
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When we got tired of swords and bows, we played Gamma World in the ye old days.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_World
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Andrea Griffin
580
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Posted - 2013.07.15 11:29:00 -
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Bump for Monday when (I imagine) there's more CCP folks in the office that might be able to chime in (if they're able).
CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer. |
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
Solar Assault Fleet
577
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Posted - 2013.07.15 14:03:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:That awkward moment when you realise everyone around you is twice your age.
That would actually be quite interesting.
But I have to admit that I've rarely found myself around any larger group of 102+ year olds ;)
CCP Eterne: Silly player, ALL devs are evil.
CCP Fozzie: When Veritas describes a programming challenge as "very hard" I tend to believe him.
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Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
294
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:42:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:You're confusing the D20 character system (D&D 3.0) with d20. Dice are lowered lettered. And d20 dice existed before 2000... http://www.scribd.com/doc/49447879/Gamma-World-RulebookProto-form? Old? In the day it was NEW. So new we were playing it at the conventions during the 80s still.
I've got a couple of d100 here as well as the other assorted dice from my D&D and RuneQuest days back in the late 70s.
I remember Traveller though; roll a character, he's a bilge cleaner. Roll again and then the next thing he's a Fleet Admiral just like the last twenty that you created...
GÇ£No man ought to commit his life into the hands of that Physician, who is ignorant of Astrologic: because he is a Physician of no value.GÇ¥
- Nicholas Culpeper |
RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet
Tribal Band
77
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Posted - 2013.07.15 16:12:00 -
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I don't see it happening. Would be sweet but I don't think they can handle an RPG. They can barely keep up with eve and DUST514 let alone an RPG. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3089
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:17:00 -
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Anybody remember Star Frontiers?
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Jimmy Morane
Aurora Novae Aetatis
Expoit This Mf's
108
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:48:00 -
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No grandpa Herzog, please tell us about it.  |
Felicity Love
Interstellar Booty Hunters
750
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:50:00 -
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Andrea Griffin wrote:Knowing that the project was started, but was later put on the shelf, really feels like a lost opportunity.
Unfortunately, that keeps happening to all kinds of material around here. 
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
Manfred Hideous
TOHOKU 9.0
50
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:04:00 -
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Tippia wrote:MehGǪ Traveller 5 is out already.
Is Mongoose still producing a version? That was my one and only credit in a book. *nostalgia*
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Anybody remember Star Frontiers?
Yes and it was my personal favorite for space RPG. |
Callic Veratar
Power of the Phoenix
422
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:30:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:O.K. now you've made me do it: http://adarkroom.doublespeakgames.com/Furious Enterprises or their representative is not responsible should the above link result in the complete destruction of your productivity.
I see A Dark Room and raise you Candy Box
DirectX 11, it's not rocket appliance! |
Gaellia Bonaventure
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
1343
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:18:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Anybody remember Star Frontiers?
*Raises hand*
I do!
Bring your possibles. |
Andrea Griffin
588
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Posted - 2013.07.17 14:11:00 -
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RPGs have changed a lot since the old days. I remember old books being filled with hundreds of random tables, arbitrary limitations and restrictions, and little if any emphasis on building a character (as in something with personality and history). Modern times are more interesting; there's a few core universal mechanics applied to everything to keep the rules on the simpler side while doing more to support stories.
Played FATE for the first time a few days ago, it was a really good experience.
CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer. |
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