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Sri Nova
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.19 07:02:00 -
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Obviously your not following the gaming the industry.
Wow answered the desire for a fantasy based mmo .
it answered it so well, that there is very lil room left for competing projects. Those that are trying to compete with wow have all had to radically change their business strategy or attack the model from another angle because the player base is not there.
Copy catting or mimicking features from wow is not going to increase the subscriber base.
Apparently what gamers wants is digital items to spend their money on . taking a look at kick starters and star citizen and shroud of the avatar and others . its clear that players wants digital goods.
another example is Activisions Sky Lander and soon to be released Disney Infinity .
Players want personalized content, they want in game avatars and objects that they can own ( i find this idea bizarre but it obvious that people will pay good money for digital items )
so the way forward for eve is not in adding on a fantasy based gimmick .
the way forward for eve will be through the creation of digital content that the players can not live with out .
this will be ship skins and other items that personalize eve for players, corporations , and alliances.
ccp then can expand these digital offerings into possible licenses that can be purchased for aur, and used to create cosmetically varied ships (they are no better than their tech 1 counter parts they are just a different model )
this will increase revenue .
increasing the player base is a bit more tricky but they already outlined the prototype .
walking in derelicts ala fps based exploration in the eve universe .
this is the way forward for eve , create a ton of content that has players exploring and fighting their way through various forms of space stations, abandoned star ships, and various wrecked structures and maybe even some of those brothels.
the second player increase will be through faction war fare and missions that require fps combat for point of control of strategic stations placed through out new eden . then expand this into 0.0 sov system.
The point being is add some variety to eves play style. (well with in the lore and flavor of eve)
it would be a mix of the current eve we know and love, with some new fps aspects that will be interesting worthwhile to invest time in .
and another increase would be from the participation of the player base in the construct of the items of eve, ala expanding the crafting system and allowing for player created items that will add flavor and variety to the eve markets for various in game content . clothes guns ships etc...
Regardless of what ccp does wowification is not the answer to many games have tried to copy or improve on the wow formula .
Many have failed while others struggle to stay above water in this crowded mmo market. |

aya nasta
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
2
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Posted - 2013.07.19 07:22:00 -
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Excellent work. 10/10. Would read again.  |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
234
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Posted - 2013.07.19 07:49:00 -
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Jonny Monroe wrote:3 pages and no tippia post? These forums aren't what they used to be. I once heard that if You stand in front of a mirror, drunk, and You say her name and the name of the thread You want her to destroy ten times in a row, backwards ofc. she'll come out of the mirror, possess your body and crush the undesired thread. 
EDIT: Ten times in a row, backwards and without drawing breath. That last part is important or it on't work. There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |

Vortexo VonBrenner
Coldest Sea Sailing
806
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Posted - 2013.07.19 07:58:00 -
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Bravo 9/10
Oh, and Red Dwarf already had Gelfs
I'm listening to-áBj+¦rk, playing EVE, eating fishsticks, and I'm cold....this is immersion gaming. |

Alphea Abbra
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
301
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Posted - 2013.07.19 08:09:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL_rgO9MjaY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9vEmr6V6c8
No need to guess, we already know. |

Lugia3
Pirates Incorporated
468
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Posted - 2013.07.20 03:26:00 -
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****. Yarr |

Haas Tabris
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
33
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Posted - 2013.07.20 03:50:00 -
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Epic post dude, pure awesomeness. My fav part was the hobbit being a lord of the rings sequel, but hey, whatever 'cause they're both based on wow anyways. I will remember that forever. Thank you.
More seriously tho, you kinda have a point. My warrior was much more challenging to fly than any of my eve ships. Sad but true. But that was vanilla. Maybe they've fixed that now. |

Shedemei Silfar
Kid's Logistics Inc
74
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Posted - 2013.07.20 03:50:00 -
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Quote:This could totally revivisect Eve Online! New faction avatars, skills and ships would enable the devs to expand their repertoire and new players would come flooding in, vets would get whole new decade of gameplay out of it, and it might even prove the way for vampire's from the masquerade to one day enter New Eden.
he said revivisect.......
I was already laughing but that made me snort beer out through my nose.... my poor keyboard. |

Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
507
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Posted - 2013.07.20 05:41:00 -
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Spelljammer! Not very successful, iirc.
But then again, I would give anything to have these in Eve Online. Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20.
Need to advertise your Corp or service? Look no further, this space is now for rent!
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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
794
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Posted - 2013.07.20 06:12:00 -
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1) EVE is not, and can not be, WoW.
2) If you want to play a theme-park, then go do so.
3) Your post, reading it was painful.
Your troll-rating for today:
4/10.
Next! Meta-gaming for carebears:
Whine on the forums like a little ***** until CCP gets sick of you and hands you everything you ask for just to shut you up. |

Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
794
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Posted - 2013.07.20 06:26:00 -
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Nerath Naaris wrote:Spelljammer!Not very successful, iirc. But then again, I would give anything to have these in Eve Online.
Yes, I remember that so well.
I turn 40 in a month...****. (/Cries) Meta-gaming for carebears:
Whine on the forums like a little ***** until CCP gets sick of you and hands you everything you ask for just to shut you up. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3329
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Posted - 2013.07.20 06:53:00 -
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How about no. The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |

Whitehound
1557
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Posted - 2013.07.20 08:40:00 -
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Cross EVE with WoW and you get spaceships looking like comic figures.  Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |

Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Tribal Band
746
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Posted - 2013.07.20 14:04:00 -
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ISD Tyrozan wrote:A trolling post has been removed.
Forum rule 5. Trolling is prohibited.
no it hasn't
it's still there |

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
482
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Posted - 2013.07.20 17:09:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:How about no.
Why, not? WoW already has the EvE in Azeroth.
Loving these threads, because it shows one thing clear in EvE: the gameplay is so boring that WoW *is* the only thing left to talk about (since the forum threads are repeating or thriving on necros).
But have fun guys. Remember "Time is money, friend" (just don't spend it all in one place!). "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Indoril Siconus
Camarilla Incorporated
3
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Posted - 2013.07.20 18:13:00 -
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Reading this post was probably my worst experience on the EVE Forums. |

Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
295
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Posted - 2013.07.21 08:28:00 -
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You trek across the frozen wastes and head towards the fabled city of KnobbleThorn. Your faction with the guards of KnobbleThorn allow you access under the mighty wooden gates glistening with perma-frost.
You dismount off your Battle Badger and cross the zone line...
Moment later you appear in a majestic hall, behind you snow falls over the threshold but you're looking around at the incredible architecture. Would would have built an entrance chamber so high.
After tying up the Battle Badger you turn towards the vast distance to the far corner towards the towering archway into the main corridors of KnobbleThorn itself. Leaving your beast in the care of the Janitors you set off towards the archway.
It's locked. GÇ£No man ought to commit his life into the hands of that Physician, who is ignorant of Astrologic: because he is a Physician of no value.GÇ¥ - Nicholas Culpeper |

Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
6
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Posted - 2013.07.21 08:43:00 -
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It would be still Fantasy, I HATE FANTASY! Sci-Fi FTW!! |

BiscuitMonsterr
University of Caille Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.07.21 11:27:00 -
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Lephia DeGrande wrote:It would be still Fantasy, I HATE FANTASY! Sci-Fi FTW!!
But fantasy is really just sci-fi only set in the past, isn't it?
Look at Star War's (a famous old science fiction movie from the 60s). In that, the hero lives on a farm, and he has to go on a quest to rescue a princess from a sort of castle. Only the castle is in space. But he does meet a kind of Gamdarlf character who teaches him magic, called Old Ben Kobi, except its called the Force and its explained in the remake of 2002 that its actually a technology called Mitochondria.
But anyway, sci-fi was called fantasy before the age of space, and the famous scifi author Arthur G Clarke once said 'one mans magic is another mans technology', so whose to say the two can't live in peace together in New Eden.
Maybe CCP could introduct some kind of special power that would work like Magic but be powered by power crystals or something. Remember, we can't call it magic anyway because Gary Gygax has the trademark for that I think. But we can change the spelling a bit. Magyk, maybe. Or something gormpletely different, like 'star-voodoo' or 'cosmauturgy' or similar.
The monstroids voodoo levels would be low of course, but the Gelfs would have advantage's here. |

tiberiusric
Comply Or Die Brethren.
37
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Posted - 2013.07.21 13:05:00 -
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I think it would be cool, if we had more 'alien type' beings rather than everyone looking human! |

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
483
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Posted - 2013.07.21 13:48:00 -
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Lephia DeGrande wrote:It would be still Fantasy, I HATE FANTASY! Sci-Fi FTW!!
Sci-Fi is fantasy in space.
If you wanted a space sim that truly mimicked science you'd be bored to death. The space you'll even see isn't beautiful Hubble false color images, it's a pretty dull gray world (as the only light humans can see is the visible light spectrum -- and the most beautiful false colors are beyond what our eyes can actually see...like the Oxygen III and Hydrogen-Alpha photo filters can highlight).
And in space fighting Buck Rogers style would be a worthless adventure. Waste of resources for "fun" when, for example, for NASA every ounce of material moved is worth $$$$$$...every ounce...and you have to carry it, as resources don't just magically appear.
PvP in space IS science nonsense.
So enjoy your space opera! "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15675
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Posted - 2013.07.21 13:55:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Sci-Fi is fantasy in space. Nah. Sci-Fi is fantasy based on social and natural science rather than myth and legend.
Quote:The space you'll even see isn't beautiful Hubble false color images GǪbut rather something spectacular like this. Of course, EVE doesn't use any Hubble false-colour images to begin with.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Terek Brinalle
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.07.21 13:57:00 -
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Do we get mounts?
Can I ride a Minmatar slave around the station? |

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
483
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Posted - 2013.07.21 14:09:00 -
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Tippia wrote:but rather something spectacular like this. Of course, EVE doesn't use any Hubble false-colour images to begin with.
Classic example of Tippia, again, not understanding what she's talking about.
Any two-bit amateur astronomer can see the backdrop images in EvE are indeed inspired by the Hubble false-color images. Can see the M16 Eagle nebula; can see the Hydra nebula; can see the Omega nebula.
How do you know? Because the colors used by NASA doesn't represent the colors as they're even seen. It's like a trademark even.
In the early days of astrophotography photo filters did have a color to them (Hydrogen-Alpha and it's deep red tone is a classic example, as the red spectrum the human eye can actually see -- why you can see the reddish tone of Omega and Eagle nebulas with the naked eye [but not the Oxygen III blue/green that NASA used]). Oxygen III highlights a gray bandwidth to human eyes -- we don't see the pretty blues that NASA normally uses to represent that color in their Hubble photographs.
But in EvE you will see those pretty blue Oxygen III highlights, just like in the Hubble photographs! That color doesn't exist in reality, it's Photoshopped in.  "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15675
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Posted - 2013.07.21 14:20:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Classic example of Tippia, again, not understanding what she's talking about. You mean like the fact that EVE uses any Hubble imagery, false-colour or otherwise? You mean like the fact that space is pretty darn spectacular just using its own colours?
Oh sorry, you were going off on some irrelevant and tangential strawman? I didn't mean to interrupt you or ruin your point with factsGǪ
GǪbut it kind of just happened anyway. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

BiscuitMonsterr
University of Caille Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.07.21 14:39:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Lephia DeGrande wrote:It would be still Fantasy, I HATE FANTASY! Sci-Fi FTW!! Sci-Fi is fantasy in space. If you wanted a space sim that truly mimicked science you'd be bored to death. The space you'll even see isn't beautiful Hubble false color images, it's a pretty dull gray world (as the only light humans can see is the visible light spectrum -- and the most beautiful false colors are beyond what our eyes can actually see...like the Oxygen III and Hydrogen-Alpha photo filters can highlight). And in space fighting Buck Rogers style would be a worthless adventure. Waste of resources for "fun" when, for example, for NASA every ounce of material moved is worth $$$$$$... every ounce...and you have to carry it, as resources don't just magically appear. PvP in space IS science nonsense. So enjoy your space opera!
Exactly! It's nice to see a veterinarian supporting my modest proposal. Obviously Buck Rogers is too old fashioned for the likes of Eve, I dont think we want those 70s fashions and all that space disco stuff, but they had space princesses I think.
By the way, I was researching Wow and I realised they already had spaceships in it with the race with the goatlegs and horns. So there is a percodent for a space-fantasy combo. |

ctx2007
Wychwood and Wells Beer needs you
293
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Posted - 2013.07.21 14:45:00 -
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Reaches for broadsword +2/+4 vs undead, Oi OP have a real close look at the head chopping block! 
Using the undead bit incase OP rises from the dead. You only-árealise you life has been a waste of time, when you wake up dead. |

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
483
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Posted - 2013.07.21 15:08:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Classic example of Tippia, again, not understanding what she's talking about. You mean like the fact that EVE uses any Hubble imagery, false-colour or otherwise? You mean like the fact that space is pretty darn spectacular just using its own colours? Oh sorry, you were going off on some irrelevant and tangential strawman? I didn't mean to interrupt you or ruin your point with factsGǪ GǪbut it kind of just happened anyway.
Tippia, I've been an amateur astronomer for decades now, and before CCD astrophotography (the bad old days of gas-hyping film).
Space does not have it's own "colours" (hmmm) beyond what the human eye can see (and since the universe as we define it is by a human perspective, the universe will be seen from a human POV).
The hocus pocus of the base color of the universe was for show, we couldn't even see it naturally that way.
Any other color representation is false-colored because humans can't tell the difference -- and photo filters are even needed to tease out the details (why the Hubble images used false colors anyway). Oxygen III is a classic filter to do just that, especially in nebulas with a lot of dust and radiation (like the M16 pillars, it would be washed out by the background radiation otherwise). It's no different than in Photoshop, when doing color separation in CYMK / RGB or LAB formats. Astrophotography filters operate much the same, and when each bandwidth is separated it can be given it's own color. Then, like in Photoshop, the color separated images are recombined into a false-color representation.
It looks very pretty. But it's not real. It's false-color.
Naturally, celestials in space is mostly seen by humans as gray, with some white light highlights (Orion nebula is a classic example of a nebulae that can be seen and appreciated without any photo filters). Nebulas like the classic Hubble Eagle nebula is seen in red light by the eye naturally, and it's contrast is brought out nicely by the hydrogen-alpha color filter (and why the M16 photos before Hubble was soooo red!). There's no blue/green there (typical false-color for Oxygen III in NASA Hubble photos).
Enjoy the fantasy and what fantasy offers, as science is harsher than space itself! "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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000Hunter000
Missiles 'R' Us
19
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Posted - 2013.07.21 15:09:00 -
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So many players... so what u do with em? split em up over different servers? U would prolly have to, to keep things playable.
Would be tempting if they let us bomb Azeroth from space!  |

Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
6
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Posted - 2013.07.21 15:09:00 -
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I dunno care if you count Sci-fi into Fantasy, hell i dont even care if fantasy or realistic, i just want to fly in space with spacecraft and future technology.
I cant stand anymore Orcs, and Magic and Steampunk ****, like Wow. |
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