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Muse of Minmatar
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:28:00 -
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Now imagine a couple of thousand toons applying as CONCORD pilots, maybe after some kind of prerequisites such as certificates or whatever.
Then each time someone violates the engage rules in highsec, a CONCORD pilot would warp to place and easily be able to kill the offender thanks to the 200AU/s warping machine and so on, you get the idea.
This would make highsec more interesting, as there would be some kind of insecurity, and obviously highsec botters say goodbye to their profits 
Even there might pop some kind of "mafias" and corrupted CONCORD agents which could wink at crimes over determined systems, previously paid by pirates lol... a new world of possibilities for high and low sec.
Think of this CCP. |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
137
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:31:00 -
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Muse of Minmatar wrote:Now imagine a couple of thousand toons applying as CONCORD pilots, maybe after some kind of prerequisites such as certificates or whatever. Then each time someone violates the engage rules in highsec, a CONCORD pilot would warp to place and easily be able to kill the offender thanks to the 200AU/s warping machine and so on, you get the idea. This would make highsec more interesting, as there would be some kind of insecurity, and obviously highsec botters say goodbye to their profits 
why bother?
if someone does something to get concorded you can join in on the fun without needing to be a member of concord
and did something change to make botting a concord offense? or are you saying players could choose to turn a blind eye to ganks against botters and not respond?
either way its a bad idea imo
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Adelphie
Paradox Collective
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:35:00 -
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Muse of Minmatar wrote:Now imagine a couple of thousand toons applying as CONCORD pilots, maybe after some kind of prerequisites such as certificates or whatever. Then each time someone violates the engage rules in highsec, a CONCORD pilot would warp to place and easily be able to kill the offender thanks to the 200AU/s warping machine and so on, you get the idea. This would make highsec more interesting, as there would be some kind of insecurity, and obviously highsec botters say goodbye to their profits  Even there might pop some kind of "mafias" and corrupted CONCORD agents which could wink at crimes over determined systems, previously paid by pirates lol... a new world of possibilities for high and low sec. Think of this CCP.
That to me is the idea of nullsec, just in standard ships.
Players should act as the concord of their own space...
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Calapine
Xeno Tech Corp Flatline.
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:38:00 -
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*laughs* Player concord! What could possibly go wrong! 
Absolutely for it, but remember to make players swear a pledge promising to be always impartial and fair and not abuse their powers in any way! That should alleviate any concerns 
Cala |

Billy Colorado
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:41:00 -
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Weird idea.
Though I think that criminal status mechanics need to be seriously looked at. Concord shouldn't insta-kill criminals if they enter High Sec. Players should.
GCC, well, yeah, that's different.
Fix that up a bit, CCP, and I imagine Low Sec activity would improve, at least moderately. |

Cpt Fina
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:44:00 -
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Maybe implement a nerfed version of that to some low-sec and 0,0 systems to help sovholders police the space.
Maybe a "jump to" function when a crime has been commited in that constellation. Dont know hoe OP that would be, interesting idea nonetheless. |

Botleten
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:53:00 -
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This would be an amazing idea... I can imagine it now: Massive fleet of ships from a 0.0 alliance comes flying into hisec, quickly destroys the player run concord in the system and starts ravaging helpless hisec carebears. Jita would become a lot more fun as fleets of nullsec ships sit on undock popping everything in sight without any concord to be seen.
+1 |

Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:55:00 -
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Cpt Fina wrote:Maybe implement a nerfed version of that to some low-sec and 0,0 systems to help sovholders police the space.
Maybe a "jump to" function when a crime has been commited in that constellation. Dont know hoe OP that would be, interesting idea nonetheless.
yes, if you have an aching needs to do concords job you can in low sec right now.. just let it be known that you are concord.. and then if something happens, you can fly in an administer justice. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |

Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:57:00 -
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Player CONCORD: Where the only targets are goons. |

Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:59:00 -
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One of the fixes to Faction Warfare being proposed by CCP Soundwave and discussed by the players in the Faction Warfare fixes thread is the removal of ALL faction NPC's from higsec, very similar to your idea of replacing concord ships with players.
Basically, the idea is to open up higsec to faction war by having players enforce the standings differences, not NPCs. For example, if you entered Jita but had poor Caldari standing, than all players in Jita with high Caldari standings could nuke you, similarly to if a pirate with low sec status had entered the system.
If you have an opinion on the issue, please share your feedback, but remember if you're posting in that thread keep it to Faction Warfare discussions, and if you're posting here lets keep it about Concord.
But its an interesting parallel idea though.... |

Noriko Mai
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Posted - 2011.10.25 19:01:00 -
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Ammzi
Imperial Guardians Blazing Angels Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.25 19:05:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
Basically, the idea is to open up higsec to faction war by having players enforce the standings differences, not NPCs. For example, if you entered Jita but had poor Caldari standing, than all players in Jita with high Caldari standings could nuke you, similarly to if a pirate with low sec status had entered the system.
Oh god, that would be so awesome!! quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Madam Steele
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.25 19:05:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:One of the fixes to Faction Warfare being proposed by CCP Soundwave and discussed by the players in the Faction Warfare fixes thread is the removal of ALL faction NPC's from higsec, very similar to your idea of replacing concord ships with players. Basically, the idea is to open up higsec to faction war by having players enforce the standings differences, not NPCs. For example, if you entered Jita but had poor Caldari standing, than all players in Jita with high Caldari standings could nuke you, similarly to if a pirate with low sec status had entered the system. If you have an opinion on the issue, please share your feedback, but remember if you're posting in that thread keep it to Faction Warfare discussions, and if you're posting here lets keep it about Concord. But its an interesting parallel idea though....
There is no way that players, especially new-ish ones in Jita, could hold a candle to the firepower and quick response time of Concord 23/7. This is pretty laughable, actually.
Edit: If this was in addition to Concord then yes but as a replacement, hell no. |

Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.10.25 19:08:00 -
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Muse of Minmatar wrote:Now imagine a couple of thousand toons applying as CONCORD pilots, maybe after some kind of prerequisites such as certificates or whatever. Then each time someone violates the engage rules in highsec, a CONCORD pilot would warp to place and easily be able to kill the offender thanks to the 200AU/s warping machine and so on, you get the idea. This would make highsec more interesting, as there would be some kind of insecurity, and obviously highsec botters say goodbye to their profits  Even there might pop some kind of "mafias" and corrupted CONCORD agents which could wink at crimes over determined systems, previously paid by pirates lol... a new world of possibilities for high and low sec. Think of this CCP.
Hundreds and hundreds of people have posted some really bad ideas on the forums.
Today, they have found their new king. Six months in the hole... it changes a man. |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
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Posted - 2011.10.25 19:09:00 -
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Madam Steele wrote:Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:One of the fixes to Faction Warfare being proposed by CCP Soundwave and discussed by the players in the Faction Warfare fixes thread is the removal of ALL faction NPC's from higsec, very similar to your idea of replacing concord ships with players. Basically, the idea is to open up higsec to faction war by having players enforce the standings differences, not NPCs. For example, if you entered Jita but had poor Caldari standing, than all players in Jita with high Caldari standings could nuke you, similarly to if a pirate with low sec status had entered the system. If you have an opinion on the issue, please share your feedback, but remember if you're posting in that thread keep it to Faction Warfare discussions, and if you're posting here lets keep it about Concord. But its an interesting parallel idea though.... There is no way that players, especially new ones in Jita, could hold a candle to the firepower and quick response time of Concord 23/7. This is pretty laughable, actually.
for faction though? not really so, the fleets on the station and gates would have a legal reason to shoot more than WTs and somehow I don't think they would pass up the chance if it was given to them.
you would probably end up with factional gate camps in empire lol
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Madam Steele
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.25 19:12:00 -
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Morganta wrote:Madam Steele wrote:Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:One of the fixes to Faction Warfare being proposed by CCP Soundwave and discussed by the players in the Faction Warfare fixes thread is the removal of ALL faction NPC's from higsec, very similar to your idea of replacing concord ships with players. Basically, the idea is to open up higsec to faction war by having players enforce the standings differences, not NPCs. For example, if you entered Jita but had poor Caldari standing, than all players in Jita with high Caldari standings could nuke you, similarly to if a pirate with low sec status had entered the system. If you have an opinion on the issue, please share your feedback, but remember if you're posting in that thread keep it to Faction Warfare discussions, and if you're posting here lets keep it about Concord. But its an interesting parallel idea though.... There is no way that players, especially new ones in Jita, could hold a candle to the firepower and quick response time of Concord 23/7. This is pretty laughable, actually. for faction though? not really so, the fleets on the station and gates would have a legal reason to shoot more than WTs and somehow I don't think they would pass up the chance if it was given to them. you would probably end up with factional gate camps in empire lol
Oh if only for FW participants then yeah that sounds interesting.
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Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD Tragedy.
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Posted - 2011.10.25 19:13:00 -
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Im picturing Concord being run by Goonswarm...
I think the general concensus of the EvE community would be something along the lines of "**** this I quit.". Support our boobies!-áLINKY! |

De'Veldrin
Norse'Storm Battle Group Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.10.25 19:15:00 -
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Player run CONCORD.
Do you really want Goons in CONCORD ships responsible for punishing criminal offenses in highsec? Unsub or don't.-á I don't care what your reasons are, and neither does anyone else.-á Just click the button and go away - or don't. |

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2011.10.25 19:18:00 -
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De'Veldrin wrote:Player run CONCORD.
Do you really want Goons in CONCORD ships responsible for punishing criminal offenses in highsec? Yes. That is what I want. |

Madam Steele
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.25 19:19:00 -
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And then they can sit amongst all the wreckage of Jita with their 'Mission Accomplished' banner shortly before the plug is pulled. |

Enik3
Greater Order Of Destruction Black Legion.
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Posted - 2011.10.25 19:21:00 -
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The first time someone got ganked without CONCORD response (or even by CONCORD officers themselves) there would be some seriously ticked off carebears.
Some definite griefing potential there and for that reason it'll probably never happen  |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
754
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Posted - 2011.10.25 19:35:00 -
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Muse of Minmatar wrote:Now imagine a couple of thousand toons applying as CONCORD pilots, maybe after some kind of prerequisites such as certificates or whatever. Then each time someone violates the engage rules in highsec, a CONCORD pilot would warp to place and easily be able to kill the offender thanks to the 200AU/s warping machine and so on, you get the idea. This would make highsec more interesting, as there would be some kind of insecurity, and obviously highsec botters say goodbye to their profits  Even there might pop some kind of "mafias" and corrupted CONCORD agents which could wink at crimes over determined systems, previously paid by pirates lol... a new world of possibilities for high and low sec. Think of this CCP.
Yes there's no way this could possibly be horribly abused  Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
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Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
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Posted - 2011.10.25 19:36:00 -
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Supported, this will make suicide ganking even easier. GÖÑ Haviing your portrait painted here helps INTAKI Disabled Children GÖÑ |

Trainwreck McGee
Ghost Ship Inc.
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Posted - 2011.10.25 19:41:00 -
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its a horrible idea but anything to make EVE even more of a clusterfark i am all for
+1 CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.25 21:29:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Muse of Minmatar wrote:Now imagine a couple of thousand toons applying as CONCORD pilots, maybe after some kind of prerequisites such as certificates or whatever. Then each time someone violates the engage rules in highsec, a CONCORD pilot would warp to place and easily be able to kill the offender thanks to the 200AU/s warping machine and so on, you get the idea. This would make highsec more interesting, as there would be some kind of insecurity, and obviously highsec botters say goodbye to their profits  Even there might pop some kind of "mafias" and corrupted CONCORD agents which could wink at crimes over determined systems, previously paid by pirates lol... a new world of possibilities for high and low sec. Think of this CCP. Yes there's no way this could possibly be horribly abused 
But on the flip side it could give those who want to play the good guy a game supported role in PvP. Maybe add some more stringent penalties for acts of piracy for those who sign up? As far as corruption, well, this is eve... |
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