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Prince Sanguine
BLACK SQUADRON.
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Posted - 2013.07.18 11:22:00 -
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As of late gangking miners has been fun but we want to try (if possible) to gank a freighter for fun. What is the minimum amount of people we would need to achieve this? No issue in using bs t2 blaster fits but I'm more worried about if we have enough time in .7 or higher systems before concord rapes us. Advice would be appreciated.
U w0t mate?! fight me IRL.! do you even lift?! |
Forum Clone 77777
State War Academy Caldari State
127
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Posted - 2013.07.18 11:51:00 -
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One hundred fully gank T2 blaster Talos' loaded with Void ammo. Will make any ship you desire explode gloriously. |
Templar Knightsbane
The Konvergent League Sev3rance
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:37:00 -
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Prince Sanguine wrote:As of late gangking miners has been fun but we want to try (if possible) to gank a freighter for fun. What is the minimum amount of people we would need to achieve this? No issue in using bs t2 blaster fits but I'm more worried about if we have enough time in .7 or higher systems before concord rapes us. Advice would be appreciated.
Work out the targets lowest resistance, then find its EHP, then get some nado's and calculate there alpha's shooting at the lowest resistance,, then work out whether or not you can get 1 or 2 cycles off per ship, then go try it!
Just use a little basic math to work out how much you can volley for and how much armor/resistance your target has and go from there.
Pfya or something can give you loads of information for this sort of thing very quickly and easily. |
GreenSeed
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Posted - 2013.07.18 13:25:00 -
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your concern should not be damage, it should be bumpers.
if your bumpers are drunk, high, or otherwise $#%@#, then your gank will fail. if they keep at it, you can kill a freighter with one catalyst pilot and lots of patience.
if you lack pilots and patience, then start the gank with 3x nados with prototype artys. that will be far more cheaper than any blaster ship and on .6 can drop 2 volleys for full damage, im not sure about two volleys on .7, maybe with cycle implants.
3x nados, can clear all the shield firing 6x1400mm with em first, all the armor firing the rest of the guns with plasma loaded, and chew 30k into hull on the second cycle, while a talos will hit resists.
after the initial gank, bump and pull concord. unleash the catalysts, they will deal their full paper dps on hull. you will have to chew around 120k hull on a obelisk, 110k on a provi, charons something i forgot, and 95k on fenrirs... so start with fenrirs.
on .8 and higher i would guess catalysts wont do many cycles, at 1.9 secs with good skills with a response time of around 7 seconds you are looking at around 4k of reliable damage per cat... that's a lot of catalyst pilots or a very long gank.
ABCs will lower your pilots needed and gank time. talos look better on paper because nados can't do 2 cycles. they can do 12k damage (2 cycles), while a nado can do 10k... but nados are still 30m isk cheaper and require far less training. (low meta 1m isk guns vs 4m isk t2 blasters)
anyway, don't gank people. karma is a *****. |
Jack Miton
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
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Posted - 2013.07.18 13:27:00 -
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I would recommend shooting it. |
Myriad Blaze
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Posted - 2013.07.18 14:11:00 -
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Thor Kerrigan did some research on this here:100 Million ISK to kill a freighter in highsec. I believe you will find everything you need there.
Considering I fly a freighter myself now and then I'm a bit hesitant to wish you luck |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Tribal Band
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Posted - 2013.07.18 14:48:00 -
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shoot it
with lasers |
Kali Maat
PVP FAST
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Posted - 2013.07.18 14:57:00 -
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Kill it with fire! as a industrialist more stuff destroyed mean more sales :-) |
Abishai
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Posted - 2013.07.18 15:06:00 -
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I thought that moving concord was considered an exploit by CCP.
You can move your target away from concord with bumping but you can not move concord. |
Kult Altol
Confederation Navy Research Epsilon Fleet
626
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Posted - 2013.07.18 17:28:00 -
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EHP/10000+4=ships needed to gank target Can't wait untill when Eve online is Freemium. WiS only 10$, SP booster for one month 15$, DPS Boost 2$, EHP Boost 2$ Real money trading hub! Cosmeitic ship skins 15$ --> If you don't pay for a product, you ARE the product. |
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bloodknight2
Talledega Knights PLEASE NOT VIOLENCE OUR BOATS
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Posted - 2013.07.18 18:06:00 -
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Convo the pilot and tell him to eject or else you will be mad and make his little sister cry. Violence isn't the only solution.
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Prince Sanguine
BLACK SQUADRON.
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Posted - 2013.07.18 18:50:00 -
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Violence is the answer. I don't believe miners should be afk and safe anymore than an autop freighter. Something about it just makes me rage. I could find a .6 that a freighter jumps through as well. Hmm U w0t mate?! fight me IRL.! do you even lift?! |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
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Posted - 2013.07.18 20:04:00 -
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Abishai wrote:I thought that moving concord was considered an exploit by CCP.
You can move your target away from concord with bumping but you can not move concord.
I don't see how 'moving Concord' is an exploit, since you 'move' them by doing badness somewhere else in system. Should Concord ignore the poor miner because a freighter is getting ganked?
My understanding is that truly avoiding Concord, IE not getting popped, is considered an exploit, not causing them to move around the system as a delaying tactic. Rifterlings Corporation is now recruiting pilots for faction warfare solo & small gang frigate PvP. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
634
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Posted - 2013.07.18 20:06:00 -
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Buns, lots of buns. |
Azami Nevinyrall
Carbon Circle Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2013.07.18 20:32:00 -
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10-15 people Each in Talos' 0.5 system
/thread I'm currently taking bets on the following: - CCP Games becomes EA Games' property. - EVE Online will have Microtranctions everywhere. |
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