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Chock Nurris Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.07.21 08:21:00 - [1] - Quote Hi I was griefed in help channel with bounties for asking a questionw I started EVE in a few years ago but due to having to go to university I had to drop out and have just resubbedw I think the bounty system is messed up, I have had 14 million isk put on me I have perfect security status in 8 different locations in the space of about an hour for asking how to make iskw It is a pretty reasonable questionw Why is it even possible to put a bounty on a person who has done nothing?w I can't go and put a bountry on my next door neighbor or the guy in the service station so why are people able to ruin the experience of new players in this way?w Doesnt really make much sense does it?w especially when it happens in a help channel designed to help people in game who are neww. Thanksw
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 3696	Posted - 2013.07.21 08:23:00 - [2] - Quote Get killed in 70m ISK worth of ships? This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody. "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon
Chock Nurris Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.07.21 08:25:00 - [3] - Quote I dont have that much moneyw and why should I get myself killed spending 70 million to remove 14 million in unfair bounties?w
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 3696	Posted - 2013.07.21 08:27:00 - [4] - Quote Because each time someone kills you, they get paid 20% of the ships value from the bounty pool. What's unfair about them? Somebody wanted to put a bounty on you, they did. Just like every other bounty. Poops and Giggles is a perfectly valid reason for doing that. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody. "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon
Whitehound 1565	Posted - 2013.07.21 08:27:00 - [5] - Quote Your avatar has got a beard and boobs. I doubt anyone will come near you. You should be completely safe. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
mechtech Ice Liberation Army 469	Posted - 2013.07.21 08:29:00 - [6] - Quote Get in a BC and insure it, undock from Jita 4-4, steal from one of the ganker cans, wait 1 minute, bounty gone. As for placing bounties on otherwise lawful players, it's necessary. There are many reasons someone may want to place a bounty on someone. For example, I'm a trader, and threatened a giant bounty on a freighter character because he claimed a courier I added 3 extra zeros to. Result, I got 1/2 of it back. He was naturally a high sec status, carebear player... I agree that it's lame to get tiny bounties from chat channels or from random sources. I have an alt with a bounty and he's never said a word in a single channel. The solution is to raise the minimum bounty to something reasonable like 5-10m, imo.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 15674	Posted - 2013.07.21 08:39:00 - [7] - Quote mechtech wrote: Get in a BC and insure it, undock from Jita 4-4, steal from one of the ganker cans, wait 1 minute, bounty gone. Insuring it would defeat the purpose and leave a big chunk of bounty still on the character. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0.
ACE McFACE Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve 1405	Posted - 2013.07.21 08:48:00 - [8] - Quote No one is going to gank you for 14m. I wouldn't worry about it. You should be notified if someone quotes your post so you can continue the argument!
Grimpak Midnight Elites United Federation of Commerce 998	Posted - 2013.07.21 09:02:00 - [9] - Quote Whitehound wrote: Your avatar has got a beard and boobs. I doubt anyone will come near you. You should be completely safe. ow [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img] [quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Chic Botany Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 28	Posted - 2013.07.21 09:17:00 - [10] - Quote At one point you had to have a negative sec status before a bounty could be applied, then a few expansions ago, CCP decided that was boring and needed more tears to fuel the forum server, so they made it so everyone could have a bounty applied. Not sure of the logic behind that move, but hey it's here so you just have to deal with it. It isn't much to worry about at that level, even big bounties are a bit meh, you could have a billion isk bounty and if someone shoots you when you're in a cheap ship then they get very little. Ignore it, yes I guess the Wanted sign on your picture is an annoyance, but meh it's eve, and people do that kind of stuff for a kick as they're a bunch of weirdos

The Spod Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2013.07.21 09:27:00 - [11] - Quote OP ramping up his bounty with the classic "I'm being griefed, add to the injury" move.
Silvetica Dian Manson Family The Retirement Club 31	Posted - 2013.07.21 09:33:00 - [12] - Quote Chic Botany wrote: At one point you had to have a negative sec status before a bounty could be applied, then a few expansions ago, CCP decided that was boring and needed more tears to fuel the forum server, so they made it so everyone could have a bounty applied. Not sure of the logic behind that move, but hey it's here so you just have to deal with it. It isn't much to worry about at that level, even big bounties are a bit meh, you could have a billion isk bounty and if someone shoots you when you're in a cheap ship then they get very little. Ignore it, yes I guess the Wanted sign on your picture is an annoyance, but meh it's eve, and people do that kind of stuff for a kick as they're a bunch of weirdos The logic is very simple. The same people that make constant and frivolous petitions are the ones that get upset by the meaningless bounties. Now CCP get revenge and we can all giggle at people like the OP.
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 11161	Posted - 2013.07.21 09:54:00 - [13] - Quote OP is a wuss, when people bounty him he should evemail them back and insult them for the paltry amount placed. Whitehound wrote: Your avatar has got a beard and boobs. I doubt anyone will come near you. You should be completely safe. I thought she looked familiar. Must be related to Mildew. Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt
Darvaleth Sigma The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology Innovia Alliance 313	Posted - 2013.07.21 10:02:00 - [14] - Quote It's not a very big bounty, OP. Give a man a match and you warm him for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life!
Jint Hikaru OffWorld Exploration Inc 689	Posted - 2013.07.21 10:20:00 - [15] - Quote Chock Nurris wrote: It is a pretty reasonable questionw Why is it even possible to put a bounty on a person who has done nothing?w I can't go and put a bountry on my next door neighbor or the guy in the service station so why are people able to ruin the experience of new players in this way? Um, Yes you can put a bounty on your neighbor or the guy in the service station. Simply go to your local lowlife bar, say "the first person to beat up that guy at the service station shall receive $$$ from me". [NOTE: this is hypothetical... don't do this at home kids] Anyway, Man-up! Sheesh, if I wasn't out of the county at the moment, I'd bounty you simply for that name. Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
Uma D Uma D Ltd. 2	Posted - 2013.07.21 10:27:00 - [16] - Quote Chock Nurris wrote: Hi I was griefed in help channel with bounties for asking a questionw I started EVE in a few years ago but due to having to go to university I had to drop out and have just resubbedw I think the bounty system is messed up, I have had 14 million isk put on me I have perfect security status in 8 different locations in the space of about an hour for asking how to make iskw It is a pretty reasonable questionw Why is it even possible to put a bounty on a person who has done nothing?w I can't go and put a bountry on my next door neighbor or the guy in the service station so why are people able to ruin the experience of new players in this way?w Doesnt really make much sense does it?w especially when it happens in a help channel designed to help people in game who are neww. Thanksw Now your Bounty is doubled... have a nice day :)
Chock Nurris Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.07.21 10:37:00 - [17] - Quote ACE McFACE wrote: No one is going to gank you for 14m. I wouldn't worry about it. Help people said anyone can kill me if I undock with bountyw By your rely this is not true?
Whitehound 1575	Posted - 2013.07.21 10:42:00 - [18] - Quote Chock Nurris wrote: ACE McFACE wrote: No one is going to gank you for 14m. I wouldn't worry about it. Help people said anyone can kill me if I undock with bountyw By your rely this is not true? No. Anyone can kill you with or without having a bounty on you. In high-sec will it have consequences for the attacker afterwards however. CONCORD will shoot them down and they will lose their ship. Because the ship will be more valuable than what an attacker can get from a gank should you not worry about it. The bounty only makes you look cool if it was not for those boobs. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Seven Koskanaiken EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 280	Posted - 2013.07.21 10:46:00 - [19] - Quote Whitehound wrote: Your avatar has got a beard and boobs. I doubt anyone will come near you. You should be completely safe. But it's all done in the best possible taste.
Jorden Ishonen Kinetic Technologies 76	Posted - 2013.07.21 10:47:00 - [20] - Quote Chock Nurris wrote: ACE McFACE wrote: No one is going to gank you for 14m. I wouldn't worry about it. Help people said anyone can kill me if I undock with bountyw By your rely this is not true? Anyone can kill you at anytime, regardless of whether you have a bounty or not. The sec status of the system you're in changes the specifics (high-sec is generally quite safe) but ultimately if you're undocked, you can be killed. The bounty might act as an incentive...if it were more than 14 million. 14 billion and you might see some trouble even in highsec. But at 14 million, you can pretty much be assured that no one will gank you for your pitiful bounty., P.S. whining about having a bounty on you on the forums is a good way to get the bounty increased.

Ritsum Ubiquitous Hurt 211	Posted - 2013.07.21 10:51:00 - [21] - Quote Chock Nurris wrote: Hi I was griefed in help channel with bounties for asking a questionw I started EVE in a few years ago but due to having to go to university I had to drop out and have just resubbedw I think the bounty system is messed up, I have had 14 million isk put on me I have perfect security status in 8 different locations in the space of about an hour for asking how to make iskw It is a pretty reasonable questionw Why is it even possible to put a bounty on a person who has done nothing?w I can't go and put a bountry on my next door neighbor or the guy in the service station so why are people able to ruin the experience of new players in this way?w Doesnt really make much sense does it?w especially when it happens in a help channel designed to help people in game who are neww. Thanksw Not really griefing. It is more likely the ones that put the bounty's on you were helping you to understand that a lot of people in eve online are asshats toward others. Play EvE how you want to play it and do not let others dictate how you play. Evolve your playstyle to protect yourself from others! Even in "PVE", "PVP" is there, lurking in the shadows.
Ptraci 3 R Corporation The Irukandji 1367	Posted - 2013.07.21 11:03:00 - [22] - Quote Chock Nurris wrote: I was griefed in help channel with bounties for asking a question Chock Nurris wrote: Doesnt really make much sense does it? Nope, doesn't make sense at all. How is one "griefed" by a bounty? Is the bounty hurting you at all? Does it stop you from logging in? Does it decrease your sec status and standings so you can't run missions? Does it prevent you from joining corporations or alliances? Does it stop you from defending yourself or attacking other players? Grow up. Deal with it. Or go play WoW.
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Galactic 23064	Posted - 2013.07.21 11:05:00 - [23] - Quote Finally had an issue with a dweeb of a miner bumper bothering folks in an system with Ice. I put a nice little 9-digit bounty on him, and we never saw him again. Works for me.
Inxentas Ultramar Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition 608	Posted - 2013.07.21 11:11:00 - [24] - Quote Bounties. Killrights. Two seperate things. Google them both. Just don't freak out so much man, it's not like people can kill you legally in hisec or anything. They just get paid whenever they do happen to kill you, wherever that may be. Since the payout is only 20% of what you are currently flying it's almost never profitable to gank someone for their bounty. The person that bountied you basicly subscribed himself to a mailing list of your lossmails and nothing more.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 3141	Posted - 2013.07.21 11:13:00 - [25] - Quote Chock Nurris wrote: ACE McFACE wrote: No one is going to gank you for 14m. I wouldn't worry about it. Help people said anyone can kill me if I undock with bountyw By your rely this is not true? The hormone imbalance you appear to be suffering from has poorly affected your perception.
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 11161	Posted - 2013.07.21 11:15:00 - [26] - Quote Inxentas Ultramar wrote: The person that bountied you basicly subscribed himself to a mailing list of your lossmails and nothing more. He just pays the next dude that does happens to kill you. That's probably the best description of bounties I've heard yet, now considering subscribing to the OPs mailing list. Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt
Captain Stupid Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 35	Posted - 2013.07.21 11:20:00 - [27] - Quote Posting in a stealth "Please make my bounty huge so I look bad ass"
Templar Knightsbane The Konvergent League Sev3rance 61	Posted - 2013.07.21 11:20:00 - [28] - Quote Whitehound wrote: Your avatar has got a beard and boobs. I doubt anyone will come near you. You should be completely safe. HAHAHAHA
Moneta Curran Lunar Industries Ltd 103	Posted - 2013.07.21 11:29:00 - [29] - Quote If you'd be willing to meet me in lowsec in a suitably expensive hull, I'd be more than happy to help you get rid of that awful bounty.
Noddy Comet Lysdexic Agnostics - Thier is no Dog 82	Posted - 2013.07.21 12:29:00 - [30] - Quote Ptraci wrote: Chock Nurris wrote: I was griefed in help channel with bounties for asking a question Chock Nurris wrote: Doesnt really make much sense does it? How is one "griefed" by a bounty? Is the bounty hurting you at all? http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/griefing Quote: Griefing is the act of intentionally causing distress to other players in an online game and the tactics used to cause grief vary depending on which game is being played. Asshat puts bounties on noobs in help channels and noob corp channels to intentionally cause them distress and watch teh forumz for resulting floods of tears. Bounties are the new greifing in EvE since the revamp, try and keep up.



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