Getting to a gas field (they're not called ladar sites anymore) is about the same level of difficulty as scanning down a wormhole in the first place..

I recommend fitting yourself not to tank or cloak but to escape - two gas harvesters and a probe launcher in your highs, AB and token shield tank in your mids, and a bunch of warp stabs/other go-fast things in your lows.

oh wait

I've done some more reading and there are sleepers at all sites and engage at 350km so scratch that idea.

Such a pitty that new players seem to have so little to do in wormhole space.

I just have to ask.. im training gas harvesting V atm and never done anything industry.. will the venture be on par with a battlecruiser gas harvesting? Or do you just use it so you can GTFO fast?

You could always *gasp* kill the sleepers. The crappy ladars have crappy sleepers. Nothing a moderately tanked cruiser can't take care of.

one problem I have to bring a cruiser and a mining frigate into wormhole space on my own without the locals finding it or the hole collasping.

I would also highly recommend gas harvesting V - tech 2 gas harvesters mine at 2x the rate of tech 1, and it's a 1x skill. In my opinion, it's a must have for any serious harvester.

Also, if you're going to be diving into wormholes, don't forget to check out low-sec and null exits that you might find along the way, as those systems can have gas clouds used to make combat boosters that can be quite lucrative - yesterday I mined out a site with 2 ventures in null sec that was worth about 120M isk.

I've actually found a problem with mining in a venture in null

ore site have tought enemies that I can't avoid or take down so basiclly I can't really mine these sites in null sec. Are null sec gas sites any different?

Some no-sec gas sites are unguarded, but the gases themselves are volatile, with random bursts of about 1000 damage in a particular damage flavour.

Knowledge yourself on the nebula in question and dress appropriately:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Ladar_Site_List

Is this still accurate? I was mining all day yesterday in null gas sites and my ship never took any damage, did they take this mechanic out?

oh wait

I've done some more reading and there are sleepers at all sites and engage at 350km so scratch that idea.

Such a pitty that new players seem to have so little to do in wormhole space.

Couple questions in this thread;

- fit a stab in the single low slot on the venture and then people will have to either bring a bubble or a faction point to catch you

WH gas mining up to C3s should be possible. This includes:
Token (worthless in terms of gas).
Barren
Minor
Sizeable
Ordinary (has 6000 m3 of C50 - That means you'll fill the venture up once, then come back for the remaining 1000 m3).

The token site has only C60 and C80 gas, none of which is worth your time, IMO.
From token to sizeable will spawn a few sleepers after 15-20 mins. You can easily pop them in any of the races' AFs, and the salvage may be profitable, so you should see them as a bonus.
The ordinary is more tricky, because it's guarded by 5 sirius towers, and they can be a bit nasty due to high volley damage.

If you use a cov ops to scan the hole/sites down, an AF to clear the sleepers, a T1 salvage fitted frig to get the sleeper loot and a venture to gas mine, you'll never have to worry about the wormhole collapsing due to mass.
You can keep an eye on the remaining life of the hole. It's as easy as opening the information window on the hole and making sure that it doesn't say "end of life" anywhere.

Try it out, you'll be glad you did. Also, keep an eye on d-scan.

If you use a cov ops to scan the hole/sites down, an AF to clear the sleepers, a T1 salvage fitted frig to get the sleeper loot and a venture to gas mine, you'll never have to worry about the wormhole collapsing due to mass.

If you fit one stab, they will need +4 strength to stop you. So, one +3 faction point is not enough.

What would you say is the cheapest ship that can reliably clear out Sleeper rats in gas clouds in WH Space?

Tenchi,

Something I came across while researching might give you an idea:

http://talocanunited.com/wordpress/c5-6-site-running-like-a-baws/

How hard are the sleepers in a C5/C6 gas site?