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Terrorfrodo
Renegade Hobbits for Mordor
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Posted - 2013.07.25 09:05:00 -
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I actually read the Polarized report. It's well-written and full of respect for the Jedi Knights (who are referred to as "Bears" because they are Russians, apparently, not because they are Carebears; nothing in the report indicates that they are carebears, at least not any more than everyone else in w-space.
It sounds like an awesome fight where even the Jedi Knights probably had a lot of fun and can be proud of how well they held up against a numerically superior force. I really don't get why the OP is so ashamed of publishing this report.
Unless of course the report is... inaccurate. For example it mentions that the Polarized side took heavy losses in the early stages of the fight, yet the linked BR shows 100% efficiency and in fact I cannot find any Polarized losses from that day on eve-kill
edit: Even the thread title is at odds with the report. The thread title suggests that Polarized had a blob from the beginning and then called Ash for backup, while the report states that Ash was in it from the start and were needed to make the fight even happen. . |
unimatrix0030
Viperfleet Inc. Transmission Lost
39
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Posted - 2013.07.25 09:43:00 -
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After reading the evenews version it sounds like a fun fight... . One most alliances in w-spaxe would love. No other report gives an other view on the mather though.
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Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Polarized.
913
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Posted - 2013.07.25 09:49:00 -
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http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=18762197
Numbers aside, it was actually a pretty even fight as far as fellt comps go. Putting work in since 2010. |
Eleniti Hakomairos
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Polarized.
0
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Posted - 2013.07.25 09:49:00 -
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Terrorfrodo wrote:I actually read the Polarized report. It's well-written and full of respect for the Jedi Knights (who are referred to as "Bears" because they are Russians, apparently, not because they are Carebears; nothing in the report indicates that they are carebears, at least not any more than everyone else in w-space.
It sounds like an awesome fight where even the Jedi Knights probably had a lot of fun and can be proud of how well they held up against a numerically superior force. I really don't get why the OP is so ashamed of publishing this report. .
Thank you for reading it. You understood the essence of the report.
Terrorfrodo wrote:Unless of course the report is... inaccurate. For example it mentions that the Polarized side took heavy losses in the early stages of the fight, yet the linked BR shows 100% efficiency and in fact I cannot find any Polarized losses from that day on eve-kill .
Indeed I appologize for the lack of accurate Eve-kill BR. Eve-kill tends to freak out when smartbombs are used. Here is a BR-Doc of the fight with our losses:
BR link
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Terrorfrodo
Renegade Hobbits for Mordor
549
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Posted - 2013.07.25 10:23:00 -
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Thanks, that one makes a lot more sense.
Tbh, if you have to die in a capital, what could be better than doing it like this? I am almost envious of the Jedi guys
Somehow I doubt that the OP is even in Polarized, probably a random carebear troll who saw the article on EN24, looked at the numbers without reading the report and ran to the forums to vent his righteous outrage about the BLOB . |
c'dus
Anomalous Existence
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Posted - 2013.07.25 10:23:00 -
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Well written battle report, I enjoyed reading it. Seemed like an intense fight. |
Hathrul
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Polarized.
272
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Posted - 2013.07.25 11:07:00 -
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first id like to make very clear, i really doubt the random alt crying is from the jedi knights. ive been in contact with them since that fight and theyre very cool guys. if you'd bother to read the br, you'd realise they could have cut their losses at any given time. because we started with the same numbers. about 12-14 on our side, and the same on theirs, 11-13. and those numbers included 5 or 6 logi's. yet they continued to fight and unwilling to yield.
as for batphoning ash alliance.....they were the bait. they started with a hero jump of 3 ships
call what you will, say we blob, ruin wh space etc....but at least try to do some comprehensive reading before bitching. it just makes you look like a moron. |
Meytal
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
257
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Posted - 2013.07.25 12:13:00 -
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Usually the caps my corp has found shooting Sleepers have not been fit very well, or the pilots don't understand how to fly them. But when you do find a well-fit ship flown by a competent pilot, they can be very difficult to take down without sometimes vastly superior numbers.
Hitting PvE ships is not a "good fight". It's a gank. The intention is to destroy everything with zero losses except possibly for a hero tackle; props to the victim if they can take any attackers down with them. If you don't like how your corp/alliance (and many of the others) does things in game, maybe you should look elsewhere. I hear there are tons of perfectly horrid rocks in hisec that need sweeping out of the belts. |
Trinkets friend
T.R.I.A.D
1066
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Posted - 2013.07.25 13:02:00 -
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If this was k-space it would be 3 scrub fit moros, 2 Pantheon Archons, a bunch of Falcons, and 50 PL supers.
It would have been over in a minute, maybe five.
Sure, they blobbed. But the Jedi guys could have sent a ship round to knock down all the inbound wormholes, and stop the blob. Hindsight is 20/20.
Th only losers in this? The wives in Russia who didn't get hubbins time for 3 hours. YOLO is the Carpe Diem of Gen Y http://www.localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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Efraya
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Polarized.
222
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Posted - 2013.07.25 14:09:00 -
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Eleniti Hakomairos best Hakomairos.
WSpace; Best space. |
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Gnaw LF
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
446
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Posted - 2013.07.25 15:25:00 -
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Longinius Spear wrote:b1Polarized wrote:Quinn Corvez wrote:What's your problem? We always write a battle report after a big enguagement and why would we leave without kills after spending 2 hour fighting?
You should just leave the alliance if you feel this way. are you proud of how this went down? have you no honor left in you? Just want to point out some things. 1. If you agreed before hand to be just two sides fighting, then you may or may not be able to play the 'honor' card. If the 'honor card' even mattered at all in the first place. 2. You should have contacted Ash alliance first. Since they were a 3rd party in this battle, you hiring them to assist your bearing fleet might have turned the tide in your favor. 3. Most pvp groups dislike care-bears. You posting here on an alt slightly proves ya got no guts.
Think you missed the point where the original poster is a disgruntled member of the Polarized. alliance who is shocked at the fact that a 50 man blob took two hours to kill these so called carebears. Yeah, the bears might have lost some ships but considering the amount of tears they generated within Polarized. I say they won the day. |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Polarized.
914
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Posted - 2013.07.25 15:38:00 -
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Oh Gnaw LF, you are so predictable... Are we like the goons of wormhole space to you?
The were no tear from anyone polarized member who took part in this fight and i doubt the OP is even in polarized anymore if he thinks this way. He's most likely some disgruntled ex-member.
Putting work in since 2010. |
Proclus Diadochu
Obstergo Bitten.
319
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Posted - 2013.07.25 16:02:00 -
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Just stopping by to say that kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills...
I have no e-bushido ~Boredom Breeds Direction~ |
Xiamar
Bite Me inc Bitten.
18
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Posted - 2013.07.25 16:49:00 -
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Proclus Diadochu wrote:Just stopping by to say that kills are kills are kills... I have no e-bushido
This^^
I've also been involved in blobbing people from time to time, I didn't then or now, feel the need to splerg a couple of thousand words of finest bullshit on EN24 claiming it was some sort of gudfight, because I was so fail it took me several hours to kill the target of my blobbing, nor do I ever recollect having to batphone to do my blobbing.
I also wouldn't ever consider an account of the aforementioned blobbing it to be good publicity for my alliance, everyone knows Polarized is terrible, we'd just prefer it if you kept just how bad you are to yourselves.
Also do yourselves a favour and kick the author of the article, he's so powerfully r******d it's painful. |
Hathrul
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Polarized.
281
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:31:00 -
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Xiamar wrote:Proclus Diadochu wrote:Just stopping by to say that kills are kills are kills... I have no e-bushido This^^ I've also been involved in blobbing people from time to time, I didn't then or now, feel the need to splerg a couple of thousand words of finest bullshit on EN24 claiming it was some sort of gudfight, because I was so fail it took me several hours to kill the target of my blobbing, nor do I ever recollect having to batphone to do my blobbing. I also wouldn't ever consider an account of the aforementioned blobbing to be good publicity for my alliance, everyone knows Polarized is terrible, we'd just prefer it if you kept just how bad you are to yourselves. Also do yourselves a favour and kick the author of the article, he's so powerfully r******d it's painful.
from the alliance that rarely wins anything without pre-seeding
give me a break. every person from a wh alliance comming here sitting on its high horse pointing fingers at this are morons. they have all done it, we have all done it.
oh, and again, read and then comment. yes we blobbed. massively. because after 2 hours fighting we were tired so we brought in 60 people. its not a defense, because i really dont care what random alt in random wh alliance thinks. it is rather embarrasing that 90% of the people come with their high opinions based on things that werent true in the first place, which they would know if they had the common skill to read down to an appropriate level |
Duramah
Bite Me inc Bitten.
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:41:00 -
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yea guys everyone chill it was a good fight and a nice write up I see no problems |
Xiamar
Bite Me inc Bitten.
18
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:50:00 -
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Hathrul wrote:from the alliance that rarely wins anything without pre-seeding
give me a break. every person from a wh alliance comming here sitting on its high horse pointing fingers at this are morons. they have all done it, we have all done it.
oh, and again, read and then comment. yes we blobbed. massively. because after 2 hours fighting we were tired so we brought in 60 people. its not a defense, because i really dont care what random alt in random wh alliance thinks. it is rather embarrasing that 90% of the people come with their high opinions based on things that werent true in the first place, which they would know if they had the common skill to read down to an appropriate level
I believe exactly two of our capital kills this month resulted from any sort of seeding, the rest were straight up fights or ganks, I also believe we've killed four times the value in isk your alliance has this month and nearly twice as many ships...but keep splerging away Hathrul.
Also I believe I acknowledged that we gank from time to time and so does everyone else as you rightly pointed out, I haven't noticed any of the other alliances taking to EN24 with walls of text about how they batphoned for a straight forward capital gank... |
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc. Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2013.07.25 18:35:00 -
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Proclus Diadochu wrote:Just stopping by to say that kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills are kills... I have no e-bushido
Clearly proc is the main of the OP.
Case Closed! Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour.
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Proclus Diadochu
Obstergo Bitten.
326
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Posted - 2013.07.25 18:42:00 -
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Ayeson wrote: Clearly proc is the main of the OP.
Case Closed!
Well, "bobeezus" and "fair fight" aren't words I tend to use. Also, the OP's formatting makes my OCD flare up, so I'll have to take a pass on this one, Ayeson. Thanks, anyhow ~Boredom Breeds Direction~ |
Casirio
Obstergo Bitten.
486
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Posted - 2013.07.25 19:35:00 -
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TunaKross wrote:back in the days when we had no wormholes forums on EVEO i dreamed about our own wormhole section. ... Now I'm starting to think that maby we just had it better with no wormhole forums. 99% of the content in the wormhole forums is just rubbish
Looks like everyone wanted wormhole kugu. Well this is it enjoy it guys! |
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Royal Jedi
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
107
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Posted - 2013.07.25 19:52:00 -
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Hathrul wrote: give me a break. every person from a wh alliance comming here sitting on its high horse pointing fingers at this are morons. they have all done it, we have all done it.
What this guy said, so much tears for just putting it on EN24... |
Eleniti Hakomairos
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Polarized.
0
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:07:00 -
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Xiamar wrote: -- a couple of thousand words of finest bullshit on --
So you admit it is the finest. Flattering.
Xiamar wrote: Also do yourselves a favour and kick the author of the article, he's so powerfully r******d it's painful.
So you admit I am powerful. Flattering.
Casirio wrote:Looks like everyone wanted wormhole kugu. Well this is it enjoy it guys!
This thread is indeed starting to have that "kuguesque" feel to it . Can't wait for the response to my next BR, that tells the story of how we fought a unpiloted shuttle at a planet for 15 minutes while only losing a Proteus, two pods, one kitten and one wooden spoon. Boy, that was a fight to remember. |
Gnaw LF
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
447
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:37:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:Oh Gnaw LF, you are so predictable... Are we like the goons of wormhole space to you?
The were no tear from anyone polarized member who took part in this fight and i doubt the OP is even in polarized anymore if he thinks this way. He's most likely some disgruntled ex-member.
I don't even know who you are. |
Svodola Darkfury
Heaven's End League of Infamy
224
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Posted - 2013.07.25 22:00:00 -
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Quinn Corvez wrote:What's your problem? We always write a battle report after a big enguagement and why would we leave without kills after spending 2 hour fighting?
You should just leave the alliance if you feel this way.
Locals have 5 capital ships on field. Enemies bring no capital ships and a bunch of T3s. When unable to break the tank of the 5 cap ships in a C6 wolf-rayet, they call for help. This is somehow complaint worthy.
You got caught in a site, they didn't have enough DPS/neuts to break your tank, and so they decided to kill you anyway by calling for additional help AFTER they were proven that they couldn't break the tank. They're not going to say 'oh well, we can't beat them let's just disengage when we have somebody who could help us already IN OUR CHAIN.'
Herp derp.
Svo. CEO of Heaven's End; Seller of Wormholes. |
Gnaw LF
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
450
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Posted - 2013.07.25 22:09:00 -
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Svodola Darkfury wrote:Quinn Corvez wrote:What's your problem? We always write a battle report after a big enguagement and why would we leave without kills after spending 2 hour fighting?
You should just leave the alliance if you feel this way. Locals have 5 capital ships on field. Enemies bring no capital ships and a bunch of T3s. When unable to break the tank of the 5 cap ships in a C6 wolf-rayet, they call for help. This is somehow complaint worthy. You got caught in a site, they didn't have enough DPS/neuts to break your tank, and so they decided to kill you anyway by calling for additional help AFTER they were proven that they couldn't break the tank. They're not going to say 'oh well, we can't beat them let's just disengage when we have somebody who could help us already IN OUR CHAIN.' Herp derp. Svo.
This happens all the time and no one gives a crap. The reason you are seeing so much hate is probably due to the fact that not only was thing incident posted to Evenews24 but that this engagement was described with War and Peace length, as if some Herculean struggle between light and dark, good and evil.
TLDR: Five caps die in a C6, over sixty pilots get on killmails. |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Polarized.
915
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Posted - 2013.07.25 22:12:00 -
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Putting work in since 2010. |
Svodola Darkfury
Heaven's End League of Infamy
224
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Posted - 2013.07.25 22:14:00 -
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Gnaw LF wrote:Svodola Darkfury wrote:Quinn Corvez wrote:What's your problem? We always write a battle report after a big enguagement and why would we leave without kills after spending 2 hour fighting?
You should just leave the alliance if you feel this way. Locals have 5 capital ships on field. Enemies bring no capital ships and a bunch of T3s. When unable to break the tank of the 5 cap ships in a C6 wolf-rayet, they call for help. This is somehow complaint worthy. You got caught in a site, they didn't have enough DPS/neuts to break your tank, and so they decided to kill you anyway by calling for additional help AFTER they were proven that they couldn't break the tank. They're not going to say 'oh well, we can't beat them let's just disengage when we have somebody who could help us already IN OUR CHAIN.' Herp derp. Svo. This happens all the time and no one gives a crap. The reason you are seeing so much hate is probably due to the fact that not only was thing incident posted to Evenews24 but that this engagement was described with War and Peace length, as if some Herculean struggle between light and dark, good and evil. TLDR: Five caps die in a C6, over sixty pilots get on killmails.
And thus did Torialdin arrive and activate his Interdiction Field Generator. Little did the huddled locals know, he was only the first of many Ash Alliance members to come. The ghoulish laughs of the Polarized. fleet could be heard reverberating throughout J211353, it's Wolf-Rayet binary star bathing the battle in a red glow of doom. The locals had lost hope. The enemies were not going to say "good tank" and leave.
- Excerpt from "The Battle for J211353's Core Bastion" authored by Svo, $7.99 (5euro)
Svo. CEO of Heaven's End; Seller of Wormholes. |
T0SHI KONI
Day Trippers Anonymous
0
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Posted - 2013.07.25 22:42:00 -
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Man, the drama over some people who had a couple of hours of fun getting their pixels and code converted to other pixels and code. Also, maybe I misread the BR but wasn't the Russian corp already engaged in PvP with Ash when Polarized found then? |
Rengas
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
210
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Posted - 2013.07.25 22:48:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:Gnaw LF wrote: I don't even know who you are.
Quit whining about things you don't understand or even care about. Stop trying to feel revenant. |
Quinn Corvez
Probe Patrol Polarized.
40
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Posted - 2013.07.25 23:50:00 -
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Rengas wrote:Rek Seven wrote:Gnaw LF wrote: I don't even know who you are.
Quit whining about things you don't understand or even care about. Stop trying to feel revenant.
Here was me thinking I've been playing a computer game in my spare time but aparrently some people play this game to "feel revenant" or was it relevant... You guys crack me up sometime, you really do |
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