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Jonathan Davis	Posted - 2005.12.16 09:31:00 - [1] I was just wondering what everyone though of the prices for the new skills, such as interdictor, fighter...etc. To me they are obscene but then again I am very poor. Am I just reacting badly cause I want an interdictor and cant afford the skill? or do you think they are actually overpriced?
Ante	Posted - 2005.12.16 09:45:00 - [2] I was very surprised when I saw the price of Interdictors. I imagined it to be somewhere between interceptors and heavy assault ships.
Azuriel Talloth	Posted - 2005.12.16 09:47:00 - [3] 38 mil ouch ________________ "Pain is an illusion of the flesh. Despair is an illusion of the mind."
Serpensis	Posted - 2005.12.16 09:47:00 - [4] 27M for the exhumer skill was a surprise. -- "Fear accompanies the possibility of death, calm sheperds its certainty."
VossKarr	Posted - 2005.12.16 09:49:00 - [5] Originally by: Jonathan Davis I was just wondering what everyone though of the prices for the new skills, such as interdictor, fighter...etc. To me they are obscene but then again I am very poor. Am I just reacting badly cause I want an interdictor and cant afford the skill? or do you think they are actually overpriced? CCP must be thinkig that everyone in Eve's a billionaire and uses that as the highest common denominator, so-to-speak, to price these skills and other things in Eve.
Jim Steele	Posted - 2005.12.16 09:50:00 - [6] Edited by: Jim Steele on 16/12/2005 09:50:04 yeah its a tad pricy, guess its to get rid of some of the isk floating around ingame. The carrier skil is 480mil considering the build cost of one is less than a dread (7-800m) i was supprised by this. I guess CCP only want rich mo fo's flying about in them. Author of "The Apoc Guide"
Grant Smith	Posted - 2005.12.16 09:52:00 - [7] Originally by: Jonathan Davis I was just wondering what everyone though of the prices for the new skills, such as interdictor, fighter...etc. To me they are obscene but then again I am very poor. Am I just reacting badly cause I want an interdictor and cant afford the skill? or do you think they are actually overpriced? Z0mg Chris is teh n00b
Hohenheim OfLight	Posted - 2005.12.16 09:55:00 - [8] Originally by: Jim Steele Edited by: Jim Steele on 16/12/2005 09:50:04 yeah its a tad pricy, guess its to get rid of some of the isk floating around ingame. The carrier skil is 480mil considering the build cost of one is less than a dread (7-800m) i was supprised by this. I guess CCP only want rich mo fo's flying about in them. I can live with a carrier skill of 480 mil, seeing as jsut few weeks ago it started out at 930 mil, untill a lot of *****ing and moning has stedley got ccp to bring it down. ------------------------------------------------- Contribute to the buy Hohenheim a carrier fund in game now!
Jonathan Davis	Posted - 2005.12.16 10:13:00 - [9] Originally by: Grant Smith Originally by: Jonathan Davis I was just wondering what everyone though of the prices for the new skills, such as interdictor, fighter...etc. To me they are obscene but then again I am very poor. Am I just reacting badly cause I want an interdictor and cant afford the skill? or do you think they are actually overpriced? Z0mg Chris is teh n00b Bah, get back to your mining and whoring you carebear, and let me whine on the forums
Baleine4Nerver	Posted - 2005.12.16 10:24:00 - [10] OM MY SWEET JEEBUS just bought the fighter drone skill, thought it was 480 K or summik.. didnt think for a second it was more, i didnt see the zeros or something, my wallet flashed and i got a suprise to see it had dropped so much.. checked journal and it was 48 MILL .. FOR THE LOVE OF PETE AAARRRGGGHHH !!!!! NOOO ===============================================

Dak Hakin	Posted - 2005.12.16 10:26:00 - [11] I have 6 mil in my wallet, I damn sure cant afford most of them _______________________________________________ If you fear the thorn, do not crave the rose Mr. Grumpy-sour-pus
Patch86	Posted - 2005.12.16 10:30:00 - [12] May seem a bit harsh.......but look at it this way: would you want every 2-bit pirate operation to be gate camping with their own bargain bin carrier? Lets keep the Uber Weapons in the hands of the few Uber rich, i say...........
Scalor Valentis	Posted - 2005.12.16 10:30:00 - [13] jeebuz h crist Booo for artificial all araund isk sinks >___>
Tempest3K	Posted - 2005.12.16 10:36:00 - [14] As I remember new skills tend to drop in price after a month or two, so maybe in the meantime you should train patience skill?
Ante	Posted - 2005.12.16 11:11:00 - [15] Originally by: Tempest3K As I remember new skills tend to drop in price after a month or two, so maybe in the meantime you should train patience skill? Too many things to train atm!
Shadex De'Marr	Posted - 2005.12.16 11:17:00 - [16] Yeah all this did was encourage the creation of macro-mining ALT accounts because you sure as heck are not going to make this kind of money doing combat ops.
Koori	Posted - 2005.12.16 11:21:00 - [17] The one thing that is funny for me: Carrier skills and the ship has similar ISK value Carrier Skill - 450mil Capital Ship Skill - 350mil Adv Spaceship comand - 45mil Fighters skill - 48mil JumpDrive skills - 3x10mil (not to mention other skills like BS, WarpDrive, Science etc.) It all rounds up to a 1bil... and Carrier is supposed to cost around 1bil too :P Thats not a whine. Training those skills will take a while and i'm sure i'll be able to gather money for Capital ship before end of Adv Spaceship Comm training... Just felt it's funny - ship at cost of the skills.
Rodj Blake	Posted - 2005.12.16 11:27:00 - [18] On the plus side, the new drone skills and the armour / shield damage compensation skills are all nice and cheap... Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori
Feta Solamnia	Posted - 2005.12.16 11:46:00 - [19] peopl complaining for a skillbook costing 50mil? If you can't pay 50mil for the damn book, I expect that you'll never be able to afford an interdictor anyways. I ave paid 2billions+ for skillbooks in the last month, and YOU are complaining? Originally by: Oveur I have access to all market data. Believe me, we have not reached anything close to deflation yet.
Jiggy	Posted - 2005.12.16 11:49:00 - [20] Originally by: Jim Steele Edited by: Jim Steele on 16/12/2005 09:50:04 yeah its a tad pricy, guess its to get rid of some of the isk floating around ingame. The carrier skil is 480mil considering the build cost of one is less than a dread (7-800m) i was supprised by this. I guess CCP only want rich mo fo's flying about in them. What, didnt you notice that when they explain balancing, they always use examples where everyone has every skill at lvl5?

violator2k5	Posted - 2005.12.16 11:50:00 - [21] well i guess the only thing that can be done is save up for them unless ccp are willing to drop the prices down on them a bit.
Siigari Kitawa	Posted - 2005.12.16 11:52:00 - [22] 4.8 billion for a titan skillbook. ____ Hull Upgrades Level 4
Jonathan Davis	Posted - 2005.12.16 12:30:00 - [23] Originally by: Feta Solamnia peopl complaining for a skillbook costing 50mil? If you can't pay 50mil for the damn book, I expect that you'll never be able to afford an interdictor anyways. I ave paid 2billions+ for skillbooks in the last month, and YOU are complaining? riiiiight... cause you know, ~30/40mil for an interdictor is the same as ~80/90 mil for the ship and the skill. Yeeep, no different in price ther as far as i can tell. They are virtually identical. No millions of ISK different between the two. Anyway, you know, IF you cant afford to pay that for a skill you obviously dont deserve / shouldn't pay to fly the ship. Actually, lets make all t2 ship skills a billion each just to make sure only people who can easily afford to replace the ship are allowed to fly em (man thats a great idea, why didnt CCP think of it before!?!?!!). [/sarcasm] Face it, some of us LIKE wasting all our money on a cool new toy and dont want it to be out of our price range cause we cant afford to learn how to fly it
Feta Solamnia	Posted - 2005.12.17 00:14:00 - [24] Originally by: Jonathan Davis Originally by: Feta Solamnia peopl complaining for a skillbook costing 50mil? If you can't pay 50mil for the damn book, I expect that you'll never be able to afford an interdictor anyways. I ave paid 2billions+ for skillbooks in the last month, and YOU are complaining? riiiiight... cause you know, ~30/40mil for an interdictor is the same as ~80/90 mil for the ship and the skill. Yeeep, no different in price ther as far as i can tell. They are virtually identical. No millions of ISK different between the two. Anyway, you know, IF you cant afford to pay that for a skill you obviously dont deserve / shouldn't pay to fly the ship. Actually, lets make all t2 ship skills a billion each just to make sure only people who can easily afford to replace the ship are allowed to fly em (man thats a great idea, why didnt CCP think of it before!?!?!!). [/sarcasm] Face it, some of us LIKE wasting all our money on a cool new toy and dont want it to be out of our price range cause we cant afford to learn how to fly it Such an argument could hold for a ship that wasn't specifically designed for PvP combat. Yeah sure, there would be a difference if the case was the same with t2 indies, or for a grey example: a HAC. you can only use a hac for npc's if you want to. If you're 100% sure you will never loose it (bar stupidity and eve-crashes), then yes, I see a problem. But the interdictors are ONLY for PvP. What are you gonna do, warp scramble a rat with the indertiction sphere? And since you take it out in PvP, it's certain that you will loose the ship at a certain point. And you will get a new one, and loose that one too, and the next one, and the next one... To go even further, that holds true even for interceptors. The prices show that they die like flies. Now compare the evasiveness and apparent "I can fly away whenever I want" of the ceptor vs the "If i do my job, I scramble myself" of the interdictor. If one ship is going to sell like hot exotic dancers through cycling is the interdictor (if they turn out to be as usefull as hyped). So yeah, a skillbook costing the same or up to 75% of actual ship is negligible. One would expect ot to die every time it fired the sphere (unless it's a pure gank). Who wouldn't make primary a ship able to scramble his entire fleet? Originally by: Oveur I have access to all market data. Believe me, we have not reached anything close to deflation yet.
Feta Solamnia	Posted - 2005.12.17 00:14:00 - [25] Originally by: Jonathan Davis Originally by: Feta Solamnia peopl complaining for a skillbook costing 50mil? If you can't pay 50mil for the damn book, I expect that you'll never be able to afford an interdictor anyways. I ave paid 2billions+ for skillbooks in the last month, and YOU are complaining? riiiiight... cause you know, ~30/40mil for an interdictor is the same as ~80/90 mil for the ship and the skill. Yeeep, no different in price ther as far as i can tell. They are virtually identical. No millions of ISK different between the two. Anyway, you know, IF you cant afford to pay that for a skill you obviously dont deserve / shouldn't pay to fly the ship. Actually, lets make all t2 ship skills a billion each just to make sure only people who can easily afford to replace the ship are allowed to fly em (man thats a great idea, why didnt CCP think of it before!?!?!!). [/sarcasm] Face it, some of us LIKE wasting all our money on a cool new toy and dont want it to be out of our price range cause we cant afford to learn how to fly it Such an argument could hold for a ship that wasn't specifically designed for PvP combat. Yeah sure, there would be a difference if the case was the same with t2 indies, or for a grey example: a HAC. you can only use a hac for npc's if you want to. If you're 100% sure you will never loose it (bar stupidity and eve-crashes), then yes, I see a problem. But the interdictors are ONLY for PvP. What are you gonna do, warp scramble a rat with the indertiction sphere? And since you take it out in PvP, it's certain that you will loose the ship at a certain point. And you will get a new one, and loose that one too, and the next one, and the next one... To go even further, that holds true even for interceptors. The prices show that they die like flies. Now compare the evasiveness and apparent "I can fly away whenever I want" of the ceptor vs the "If i do my job, I scramble myself" of the interdictor. If one ship is going to sell like hot exotic dancers through cycling is the interdictor (if they turn out to be as usefull as hyped). So yeah, a skillbook costing the same or up to 75% of actual ship is negligible. One would expect ot to die every time it fired the sphere (unless it's a pure gank). Who wouldn't make primary a ship able to scramble his entire fleet? Originally by: Oveur I have access to all market data. Believe me, we have not reached anything close to deflation yet.
Feta Solamnia	Posted - 2005.12.17 00:17:00 - [26] Edited by: Feta Solamnia on 17/12/2005 00:17:55 and imho, the price of the new skillbooks is not just because someone had a bad day. They are trying to pull ISK out of the game. A much needed thing imho. Although 1-shots like this cannot be as descisive as other ones, they are also less descisive on gaming aspects that could hit the game hard (like nerfing insurance). Originally by: Oveur I have access to all market data. Believe me, we have not reached anything close to deflation yet.
Jennai	Posted - 2005.12.17 00:18:00 - [27] interceptor : interdictor :: assault frigate : HAC interdictor is a super ceptor and the skillbook is 30-some million. HAC is a super assfrig and the skillbook is 30-some million.
TimeKeepr	Posted - 2005.12.17 00:19:00 - [28] well the thing about the carrier skill price...is that its also needed for the mothership, which is many times more expensive than a dread. so in that sense its price is more justifiyable.
Laocoon	Posted - 2005.12.17 00:51:00 - [29] 4bill for the racial titan SKILL made me laugh -------------------------------------------- (paint sigs ftl :'( ) i collect heads
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2005.12.17 01:28:00 - [30] I think some lower ended skills like Interdictors should be cheaper. ATM, they are way too expensive. Even that skill is reachable by me, it is hard because I cant reach it by ISKs. General theme of EvE: Billionaire's Clubbe? ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!



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