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vixit
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Posted - 2003.08.15 17:10:00 -
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Ok, yesterday was patch day, and what shows... for example about 40/60 antimatter BP per region for each class, how can you make money if it is available for so many players...

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SuicideFred
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Posted - 2003.08.15 20:19:00 -
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Maybe you should check again.
They are dissapearing fast in some regions. |

vixit
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Posted - 2003.08.15 21:14:00 -
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no, not dissapearing only bought to be copied over and over again to kill the market for this item as will happen to all the future items brought into the market.
Mark my words: if BPC are still being sold all over there will be no market!
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Tredegar
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Posted - 2003.08.17 04:41:00 -
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I think the point of ammo bp's is for a person/corp to be self sufficient in regards to ammo. Ammo should be easy to obtain and, believe me, it gets used fast! To make the ammo BP's difficult to get would be a mistake because anyone coming in to game would have a hard time getting one. I fly in an area where ammo is not easy to get. Without making these BP's easy for me to obtain would put a proverbial leash around my ankle. 
"I may be a craven little coward, but I'm a greedy craven little coward." Daffy Duck |

Fleet Commander
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Posted - 2003.08.22 10:49:00 -
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What market are you talking about? What I see this request as is a request that CCP make it easier for you to gouge other players. Excuse me if I don't weep for your inability to earn money in Eve without mining. |

Skel
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Posted - 2003.08.22 15:12:00 -
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Who would by a copy of an ammo bp anyway?
the originals are so cheap on the market |

DrummelHolmen
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Posted - 2003.08.22 19:54:00 -
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Edited by: DrummelHolmen on 22/08/2003 19:54:31
Quote: Who would by a copy of an ammo bp anyway?
the originals are so cheap on the market
Probably they will buy a copy if they can't find an original in their region.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.08.23 04:26:00 -
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Ammo is a very strange market. Everyone in the game could have the ammo bp of their choice and they'll still buy ammo off the market. Convenience of not making 15-20 jumps wins over saving 10k-20k by manufacturing your own.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

Marcus Grisbius
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Posted - 2003.08.25 18:42:00 -
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I do believe that the ammo originals and just about all bp originals are too cheap. Convenience is the key. We have Ammo Contracts that people are interested in because we make it convenient and fairly inexpensive too. If you are interested contact me ingame.
The truth is that an ammo manufacturer can make ammo for cheaper than other people because people don't realize that there are other costs outside of mineral and factory rent. You give up time which you could be doing something else. If you pirate hunt, you could make more money hunting that sitting around mining for the minerals and then making the ammo yourself. If you build ships, that's time that you're tying up your factory slot. Plus you don't have to fly back and forth to get ammo of all things.
Certainty of death... little chance of success... what are we waiting for? - Gimli, son of Gloinn |

swisher
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Posted - 2003.08.26 04:10:00 -
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The ammo bp market will be big down the road I believe I currently have anitmatter M and L bpc for sale if you interested Im me I currently have 100 orig bps of both M and L antimatter bps so I have faith that they will be big.
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Anya Stark
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Posted - 2003.08.28 14:43:00 -
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Edited by: Anya Stark on 28/08/2003 14:47:53
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"Who would by a copy of an ammo bp anyway?
the originals are so cheap on the market"
Probably they will buy a copy if they can't find an original in their region.
Nup. It's actually that for quite awhile after release the Uuber ammos (Phased Plasma (projectiles) and AM (hybrid) were not available on the market as BP originals, aside from a brief period shortly after release.
Before the implementation of range modifiers in ammo (they were broken for a long time, and only got fixed maybe 4 patches back?) smart hybrid and proj users used these ammos only because they were the most damaging ammo possible and all ammo had the same range. Any smart fighter mixed ammos only to vary the type of damage they were doing. NOW of course using AM ammo cuts the range of your turrets in half, while some hybrid ammos by comparison actually increase your range. There are now prolly 3 or 4 ammo types of each class are good, depending on how you like to fight and what kind of turrets you use.
Couple that fact that that PP and AM ammo was ridiculously unbalanced with the fact that the BPs were impossible to buy and the few peeps who had originals made good money on BPCs. I paid 300K for a researched M PP bpc and thought that a fair deal at the time (months ago). My corp HAD an original of PP S and prolly should have been selling copies early on, but didn't get into trading and just enjoyed having the baddest ammo in the game for our small turrets. Nowadays there are a ton of original copies on the market, and even if there weren't these ammos have been balanced by their huge range penalties. No one is ever again going to make any significant ammount of money on Phased plasma or antimatter ammo BPCs. People who don't understand the new balance and are hoping to make money by copying ammo BPs are sadly deluded, but at least don't have to spend much money to get their originals now.
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