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Victoria Sin Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 399	Posted - 2013.07.26 17:50:00 - [1] - Quote Does anyone have a good Navy Vexor fit, taking into account any "recent" changes? The best one I found on battleclinic looks a bit out of date. It's for small gang PvP. Appreciate it.
Whitehound 1676	Posted - 2013.07.26 21:17:00 - [2] - Quote 702 DPS with Garde IIs out to 45km, 48 GJ/s neuts, 30k eHP + 120 eHP/s. [Vexor Navy Issue, PvP AB + Sentries] Damage Control II Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste Reactive Armor Hardener 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II 10MN Afterburner II Faint Warp Disruptor I Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Garde II x5 Faster with 1990 m/s, but little less damage with 670 DPS. Tank is 22k eHP with dual repairs doing 331 eHP/s. [Vexor Navy Issue, PvP MWD + DualRep] Damage Control II Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste Medium Armor Repairer II Reactive Armor Hardener Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Drone Damage Amplifier II Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400 Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Thrusters I Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Ogre II x5 Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
How2FoldSoup 47th Space Militia 31	Posted - 2013.07.27 05:55:00 - [3] - Quote Ignore Whitehound's fits. He doesn't have a real grasp of mechanics and because of this his fits don't truly reflect what really works in pvp. It depends on the gang you are flying with to choose either active or buffer tank...furthermore always go with a t2 long point. Being able to point out to 28k can be extremely important at times, not to mention it's much cheaper than meta 4. I'm not one to just post fits; instead I encourage you to do some research on nexor tactics and gang tactics. When you've done that tailor your own fit to the small gang you will be flying with. Do you need more damage or tank? Do you want to have a bit of surprise ewar or extra tackle? It's up to your gang not up to some eft forum warrior. One last thing - Whitehound your nexor fits are god awful and I just want to warn everyone to not use them unless you want to be a lolmail.
Whitehound 1678	Posted - 2013.07.27 07:32:00 - [4] - Quote How2FoldSoup wrote: Ignore Whitehound's fits. He doesn't have a real grasp of mechanics and because of this his fits don't truly reflect what really works in pvp. It depends on the gang you are flying with to choose either active or buffer tank...furthermore always go with a t2 long point. Being able to point out to 28k can be extremely important at times, not to mention it's much cheaper than meta 4. I'm not one to just post fits; instead I encourage you to do some research on nexor tactics and gang tactics. When you've done that tailor your own fit to the small gang you will be flying with. Do you need more damage or tank? Do you want to have a bit of surprise ewar or extra tackle? It's up to your gang not up to some eft forum warrior. One last thing - Whitehound your nexor fits are god awful and I just want to warn everyone to not use them unless you want to be a lolmail. Post a fitting. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Victoria Sin Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 399	Posted - 2013.07.27 09:18:00 - [5] - Quote How2FoldSoup wrote: Being able to point out to 28k can be extremely important at times, not to mention it's much cheaper than meta 4. Yea, I would always go with a long point in small gang.
Whitehound 1678	Posted - 2013.07.27 09:48:00 - [6] - Quote Victoria Sin wrote: How2FoldSoup wrote: Being able to point out to 28k can be extremely important at times, not to mention it's much cheaper than meta 4. Yea, I would always go with a long point in small gang. It is a preference, but they do not cost more than T2s. You can get them for as cheap as 100k. The T2 points use too much cap and need a lot more CPU to always be worth the 4km range difference. The Navy Vexor than has got less CPU than the standard Vexor and the drone modules and rigs all need a lot of CPU. When you then want to catch a target do you go with an MWD, scram and web and not a disruptor. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Tsukino Stareine The Red Circle Inc. 603	Posted - 2013.07.27 10:48:00 - [7] - Quote Small gang cruiser = mobile how can you even think a sentry fit is going to be viable -_-? And 4km range difference is DEFINITELY worth the price, shows how much you (don't) pvp. Plus if you had any idea about overheating you would know the t2 point has an additional 800m range on top of the meta 4 when both are heated. The second fit makes a lot more sense though.
Whitehound 1681	Posted - 2013.07.27 12:00:00 - [8] - Quote Tsukino Stareine wrote: Small gang cruiser = mobile Think outside the box. Berserker IIs can only go 1.9k m/s or you have to start fitting navigation computers. So instead you use Hammerhead IIs and drop the sentries once the fight starts. At a gate, custom office, anywhere you want really. You instantly have a 700 DPS projection over 45km in all directions, can guard logis, kill kiters, whatever. If that is not your thing, maybe because you just like to warp around a lot, then use the second fitting. I have posted two for a good reason. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Tsukino Stareine The Red Circle Inc. 604	Posted - 2013.07.27 12:59:00 - [9] - Quote Mobile != kiting it just means you may have to move to keep point on things, peel for fleet mates, etc. Even though recalling and dropping sentries is technically "instant" it still takes a few seconds and because of the horrible drone interface it can interfere with your piloting as well. You're never (at least against a competent opponent) going to have the opportunity to turret in a cruiser small gang, they will either kite out your range or just primary you, since you can't be aligned you're an easy kill.
Whitehound 1683	Posted - 2013.07.27 13:37:00 - [10] - Quote Tsukino Stareine wrote: Mobile != kiting it just means you may have to move to keep point on things, peel for fleet mates, etc. Even though recalling and dropping sentries is technically "instant" it still takes a few seconds and because of the horrible drone interface it can interfere with your piloting as well. You're never (at least against a competent opponent) going to have the opportunity to turret in a cruiser small gang, they will either kite out your range or just primary you, since you can't be aligned you're an easy kill. Then do not use it. I however do not care for your preferences. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.

Victoria Sin Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 399	Posted - 2013.07.27 13:43:00 - [11] - Quote I can see a use for sentries if you want to sit a long way from the gate (Curators) as part of a greeting committee for a group of bombers or something (bubble and de-cloak at the gate). With respect to the point, I'm unlikely to be first to get it, just adding some extra. I might actually drop the web for a sensor booster.
W0lf Crendraven The Tuskers 87	Posted - 2013.07.27 14:21:00 - [12] - Quote Victoria Sin wrote: I can see a use for sentries if you want to sit a long way from the gate (Curators) as part of a greeting committee for a group of bombers or something (bubble and de-cloak at the gate). With respect to the point, I'm unlikely to be first to get it, just adding some extra. I might actually drop the web for a sensor booster. Nah, sentrys are a terrible choice, the ship cant even care spares (and if it could it still would be a bad choice).
Tsukino Stareine The Red Circle Inc. 604	Posted - 2013.07.27 14:29:00 - [13] - Quote Whitehound wrote: Tsukino Stareine wrote: Mobile != kiting it just means you may have to move to keep point on things, peel for fleet mates, etc. Even though recalling and dropping sentries is technically "instant" it still takes a few seconds and because of the horrible drone interface it can interfere with your piloting as well. You're never (at least against a competent opponent) going to have the opportunity to turret in a cruiser small gang, they will either kite out your range or just primary you, since you can't be aligned you're an easy kill. Then do not use it. I however do not care for your preferences. So if I prefer to attempt level 4 missions in an oneiros you wouldn't have something to say about it? Sometimes it's not just down to preferences, it's about common sense and understanding mechanics
Whitehound 1683	Posted - 2013.07.27 14:40:00 - [14] - Quote Tsukino Stareine wrote: So if I prefer to attempt level 4 missions in an oneiros you wouldn't have something to say about it? No. It does not worry me. People have done L4s in Interceptors to see if they can do it. Anyone who then has got access to L4 agents, has the skills to fly an Oneiros and posts about it will likely seek attention or is trolling. Only when a player seems new and is asking for help would I suggest a different ship. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
How2FoldSoup 47th Space Militia 32	Posted - 2013.07.28 06:16:00 - [15] - Quote Whitehound wrote: How2FoldSoup wrote: Ignore Whitehound's fits. He doesn't have a real grasp of mechanics and because of this his fits don't truly reflect what really works in pvp. It depends on the gang you are flying with to choose either active or buffer tank...furthermore always go with a t2 long point. Being able to point out to 28k can be extremely important at times, not to mention it's much cheaper than meta 4. I'm not one to just post fits; instead I encourage you to do some research on nexor tactics and gang tactics. When you've done that tailor your own fit to the small gang you will be flying with. Do you need more damage or tank? Do you want to have a bit of surprise ewar or extra tackle? It's up to your gang not up to some eft forum warrior. One last thing - Whitehound your nexor fits are god awful and I just want to warn everyone to not use them unless you want to be a lolmail. Post a fitting. No. A fitting won't make anyone better at pvp or fitting - learning it will. I I will offer as much advise of fittings but when it comes to fittings I think people should just learn for themselves. They'll get better faster that way.
Whitehound 1687	Posted - 2013.07.28 07:10:00 - [16] - Quote How2FoldSoup wrote: Whitehound wrote: How2FoldSoup wrote: Ignore Whitehound's fits. He doesn't have a real grasp of mechanics and because of this his fits don't truly reflect what really works in pvp. It depends on the gang you are flying with to choose either active or buffer tank...furthermore always go with a t2 long point. Being able to point out to 28k can be extremely important at times, not to mention it's much cheaper than meta 4. I'm not one to just post fits; instead I encourage you to do some research on nexor tactics and gang tactics. When you've done that tailor your own fit to the small gang you will be flying with. Do you need more damage or tank? Do you want to have a bit of surprise ewar or extra tackle? It's up to your gang not up to some eft forum warrior. One last thing - Whitehound your nexor fits are god awful and I just want to warn everyone to not use them unless you want to be a lolmail. Post a fitting. No. A fitting won't make anyone better at pvp or fitting - learning it will. I I will offer as much advise of fittings but when it comes to fittings I think people should just learn for themselves. They'll get better faster that way. You are only trolling. Post a fitting. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
W0lf Crendraven The Tuskers 88	Posted - 2013.07.28 07:22:00 - [17] - Quote How2FoldSoup wrote: Whitehound wrote: How2FoldSoup wrote: Ignore Whitehound's fits. He doesn't have a real grasp of mechanics and because of this his fits don't truly reflect what really works in pvp. It depends on the gang you are flying with to choose either active or buffer tank...furthermore always go with a t2 long point. Being able to point out to 28k can be extremely important at times, not to mention it's much cheaper than meta 4. I'm not one to just post fits; instead I encourage you to do some research on nexor tactics and gang tactics. When you've done that tailor your own fit to the small gang you will be flying with. Do you need more damage or tank? Do you want to have a bit of surprise ewar or extra tackle? It's up to your gang not up to some eft forum warrior. One last thing - Whitehound your nexor fits are god awful and I just want to warn everyone to not use them unless you want to be a lolmail. Post a fitting. No. A fitting won't make anyone better at pvp or fitting - learning it will. I I will offer as much advise of fittings but when it comes to fittings I think people should just learn for themselves. They'll get better faster that way. Nope, you fo get better at pvp by doing pvp, you however dont get better at fitting stuff by fitting unless you already know a whole lot about fitting. [Vexor Navy Issue, New Setup 1] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Drone Damage Amplifier II Internal Force Field Array I Drone Damage Amplifier II Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Warp Scrambler II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M Small Diminishing Power System Drain I Small Diminishing Power System Drain I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I Ogre II x5 (rest of drones up to choice, could even run with a couple of `serkers) Basic, lowskill (fits with AWU I) solo armour fit, not designed for linked gangs. 50k ehp, 800+dps, tracking bonused ogres + dualwebs mean you should murder small stuff in seconds.
Bertrand Butler Cras es Noster 65	Posted - 2013.07.28 09:23:00 - [18] - Quote Here is a setup that we have used with some success in LS. It might give you some ideas...C: [Vexor Navy Issue, VNI kite] Drone Damage Amplifier II Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste True Sansha Armor Explosive Hardener Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Warp Disruptor II X5 Prototype Engine Enervator Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800 Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Heavy Electron Blaster II, Null M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Null M Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Nanobot Accelerator I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Hobgoblin II x5 Warrior II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5 Hammerhead II x5 Berserker II x3 It combines the hybrid buffer equivalent of a 1600mm plate that a mAAR gives with the higher speed and agility of a shield setup. It has a CB buffer against cap warfare, defensive neuts + web for tacklers, 2 turrets for drone defense, a long point and good resists for the hull. Drone selection is a personal choice of course, depended on the gang consist and roaming profile.
God's Apples The Tuskers 93	Posted - 2013.07.28 15:42:00 - [19] - Quote Sentry vexor navies work because I fly them with the AQUILA guys all the time. [Vexor Navy Issue, Shield Sentries] Damage Control II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Gistum C-Type 10MN Microwarpdrive Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Imperial Navy Small EMP Smartbomb Imperial Navy Small EMP Smartbomb Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Bouncer II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Warrior II x5 657 dps with 60km opt and 42km falloff. You don't need a DLA because you're not sniping and all the people you shoot are in point range. If anyone gets close just abandon drones, release hammerheads/warriors depending on what's there and send them then recall and reconnect. The cargo is good enough such that you can store 3 sets of bouncers to replace if you are to ever lose them. If you plan on brawling you can always use W0lf's fit.
Rain6638 Team Evil 565	Posted - 2013.07.30 02:36:00 - [20] - Quote Whitehound wrote: Tsukino Stareine wrote: So if I prefer to attempt level 4 missions in an oneiros you wouldn't have something to say about it? People have done L4s in Interceptors to see if they can do it. once each: interdictor, interceptor, and bomber. with osprey logi so it wouldn't be completely cheating. post odyssey/post npc aggro change [ 2013.06.21 09:52:05 ] (notify) For initiating combat your security status has been adjusted by -0.1337 yo dawg, we heard you liek industrials, so we put an industrial in yo industrial so you can loss while u loss

mama guru Thundercats The Initiative. 141	Posted - 2013.07.31 05:52:00 - [21] - Quote [Vexor Navy Issue, 1600mm Plated] Drone Damage Amplifier II Reactive Armor Hardener Damage Control II 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Warp Scrambler II or Warp Disruptor II 10MN Afterburner II Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400 Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Small Nosferatu II (Filler, Use whatever) Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Light Neutron Blaster II, Null S Light Neutron Blaster II, Null S Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Ogre II x7 or Berserker II x7 Hobgoblin II x5 Don't use sentries on this thing. It's baaad mkhey. Wait for the ishtar buffs if you want sentries. And for the record you can play mobile in a sentry HAC, you just gotta be prepared to stay on field and loose your drones since you can't stay on em. This is what I'd use for Solo: [Vexor Navy Issue, Active Dualprop] Medium Armor Repairer II Damage Control II Reactive Armor Hardener or Drone Damage Amplifier II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste Warp Scrambler II 10MN Afterburner II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800 Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Small Nosferatu II Medium Energy Neutralizer II Light Neutron Blaster II, Null S Light Neutron Blaster II, Null S Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Nanobot Accelerator I Ogre II x7 Hobgoblin II x5 It's like a stabber fleet issue from a year ago, with much more DPS. 1800 ms MWD speed, AB+ Active rep tank. ______ EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak.
Tara Read The Bastards Shadow Cartel 510	Posted - 2013.07.31 08:25:00 - [22] - Quote W0lf Crendraven wrote: How2FoldSoup wrote: Whitehound wrote: How2FoldSoup wrote: Ignore Whitehound's fits. He doesn't have a real grasp of mechanics and because of this his fits don't truly reflect what really works in pvp. It depends on the gang you are flying with to choose either active or buffer tank...furthermore always go with a t2 long point. Being able to point out to 28k can be extremely important at times, not to mention it's much cheaper than meta 4. I'm not one to just post fits; instead I encourage you to do some research on nexor tactics and gang tactics. When you've done that tailor your own fit to the small gang you will be flying with. Do you need more damage or tank? Do you want to have a bit of surprise ewar or extra tackle? It's up to your gang not up to some eft forum warrior. One last thing - Whitehound your nexor fits are god awful and I just want to warn everyone to not use them unless you want to be a lolmail. Post a fitting. No. A fitting won't make anyone better at pvp or fitting - learning it will. I I will offer as much advise of fittings but when it comes to fittings I think people should just learn for themselves. They'll get better faster that way. Nope, you fo get better at pvp by doing pvp, you however dont get better at fitting stuff by fitting unless you already know a whole lot about fitting. [Vexor Navy Issue, New Setup 1] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Drone Damage Amplifier II Internal Force Field Array I Drone Damage Amplifier II Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Warp Scrambler II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M Small Diminishing Power System Drain I Small Diminishing Power System Drain I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I Ogre II x5 (rest of drones up to choice, could even run with a couple of `serkers) Basic, lowskill (fits with AWU I) solo armour fit, not designed for linked gangs. 50k ehp, 800+dps, tracking bonused ogres + dualwebs mean you should murder small stuff in seconds. Do not ignore this man. Tuskers know their ****. An excellent fit. We've been talking about Vexor Navy's being nasty little buggers
Victoria Sin Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 414	Posted - 2013.07.31 11:50:00 - [23] - Quote No sensor booster though, so small stuff needs to be pointed by something else and probably blown up before your drones have MWD over! Still, this fit is looking good.
Garviel Tarrant Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 1230	Posted - 2013.07.31 12:37:00 - [24] - Quote Tara Read wrote: W0lf Crendraven wrote: How2FoldSoup wrote: Whitehound wrote: How2FoldSoup wrote: Ignore Whitehound's fits. He doesn't have a real grasp of mechanics and because of this his fits don't truly reflect what really works in pvp. It depends on the gang you are flying with to choose either active or buffer tank...furthermore always go with a t2 long point. Being able to point out to 28k can be extremely important at times, not to mention it's much cheaper than meta 4. I'm not one to just post fits; instead I encourage you to do some research on nexor tactics and gang tactics. When you've done that tailor your own fit to the small gang you will be flying with. Do you need more damage or tank? Do you want to have a bit of surprise ewar or extra tackle? It's up to your gang not up to some eft forum warrior. One last thing - Whitehound your nexor fits are god awful and I just want to warn everyone to not use them unless you want to be a lolmail. Post a fitting. No. A fitting won't make anyone better at pvp or fitting - learning it will. I I will offer as much advise of fittings but when it comes to fittings I think people should just learn for themselves. They'll get better faster that way. Nope, you fo get better at pvp by doing pvp, you however dont get better at fitting stuff by fitting unless you already know a whole lot about fitting. [Vexor Navy Issue, New Setup 1] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Drone Damage Amplifier II Internal Force Field Array I Drone Damage Amplifier II Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Warp Scrambler II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M Small Diminishing Power System Drain I Small Diminishing Power System Drain I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I Ogre II x5 (rest of drones up to choice, could even run with a couple of `serkers) Basic, lowskill (fits with AWU I) solo armour fit, not designed for linked gangs. 50k ehp, 800+dps, tracking bonused ogres + dualwebs mean you should murder small stuff in seconds. Do not ignore this man. Tuskers know their ****. An excellent fit. We've been talking about Vexor Navy's being nasty little buggers Saying nice things about W0lf is very non-conformist of you Tara. BYDI recruitment closed-ish
Victoria Sin Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 422	Posted - 2013.08.03 03:12:00 - [25] - Quote I like the above New Setup 1, but I replaced the scrambler with a disrupter, and the two fleetings with two sensor booster with scan resolution script. We're dealing with warpy/cloaky mostly, so I need a faster lock. Anyway, used it tonight and it's so much better than my previous.
mama guru Thundercats The Initiative. 143	Posted - 2013.08.03 09:15:00 - [26] - Quote Victoria Sin wrote: No sensor booster though, so small stuff needs to be pointed by something else and probably blown up before your drones have MWD over! Still, this fit is looking good. Whatever you do don't use medium guns unless you use a shield setup. Small guns lets you swat ECM drones without scooping your heavies, and the DPS difference between two heavy electron blasters and two light neutrons is moot. Easier fittings and much better tracking/sig is more useful. It sometimes free up enough grid for a medium neut. ______ EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak.


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