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Lifewire
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Posted - 2003.08.15 21:49:00 -
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A 2nd server without sentry guns, police and even without NPC pirates. I want a game vs players, for AI-Killing i dont need a online-game and i dont need to pay for it. Also i dont like the lag these 5 mio police ships and NPC-pirates cause. THEY DONT PAY!
CCP make it possible...1 server for the n00bs and 1 server hardcore!
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.08.15 21:50:00 -
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Goto Chaos server.
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Mitch Taylor
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Posted - 2003.08.15 22:12:00 -
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A 2nd server without sentry guns, police and even without NPC pirates. I want a game vs players, for AI-Killing i dont need a online-game and i dont need to pay for it. Also i dont like the lag these 5 mio police ships and NPC-pirates cause. THEY DONT PAY!
CCP make it possible...1 server for the n00bs and 1 server hardcore!
Oh, this one is a classic, its got me in tears. Go back to planetside, this is not a "kill everything in sight" game, war and violence is only one aspect of it, you "ive got a bigger 'gun' than you" people always seem to forget that.....
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Shock
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Posted - 2003.08.15 22:16:00 -
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And what if all hardcore players go to that single server? Can't you see those 'hardcore', better known as PvP players, are totally depending on the economy provided by those that don't do PvP?
Who's gonna mine, produce, trade if all the players are fighters?
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Archemedes
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Posted - 2003.08.15 22:20:00 -
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0.0 space has no sentry guns or police. 0.0 space is also the only known source of megacyte and has the best trade goods. Therefore, people WILL go there...
It would be nice to have an all-PC game (especially with certain AI bugs), but the fact is too many people would pod noobs just for the hell of it. There has to be safe areas for people to get strong in so they CAN participate in PVP, otherwise they're not going to keep paying for the game. Nobody can fight a battleship in a frigate, and if there were battleships all over empire space killing anyone they saw no one could ever make enough ISK for a cruiser!
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2003.08.15 23:41:00 -
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Blabla...i dont want to play with for police and sentry gun crying and behind them hiding players. EVE is a wargame with logistic elements - all items are weapons (eccept miner I)!!! In 0.0 systems it may be possible to attack but in 0.0 systems there is nothing to do for pirates.
CCP make it possible...let the players decide if they want ur guidance or not. My type of players want to mess with others and not hours of stupid mining and boring NPC-hunting. Sooner or later all will be in the new server cause the action and fun is there. It will regulate itself - its a jungle!
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Juju Mojo
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Posted - 2003.08.15 23:46:00 -
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Rather than trying to turn Eve into the type of game you want it to be, why not just find a game that is already similar to the type of game you want to play? |
Calalbran
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Posted - 2003.08.16 00:39:00 -
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Go write a game that allows your dream totally.
Just don't expect to have all of us play it.
Some of us like the game - CONCORD, sentry guns and all.
I've never come across an online game that allows PvP combat that doesn't have some sort of police or protection for new players and players that don't want PvP all the time.
Go to low sec or 0.0 space - always plenty of players around when I'm there.
Or are you scared that others will pick on you instead of allowing you to pick on them?
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Calalbran
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Posted - 2003.08.16 00:40:00 -
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Oh, and where does it say Eve is a wargame with logistic elements?
Must have missed that version of Eve.
Are youi playing in the same universe as the rest of us?
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Mandible
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Posted - 2003.08.16 04:28:00 -
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Edited by: Mandible on 16/08/2003 04:29:08
Yeah i can see that being real fun to all the new players who want to play.
Scenario: Day 1 New player starting in his newbie ship being podded 8 times by a Battleship he call's it a day and loggs. day 2 New player tries a more carefull approach yet he gets podded again by some Battleships, he puts on a heroic fight cause he is not a "noob", and almost blew the battleships with his newbie ship. Nevertheless he doesnt stand a chance.
I could continue with day 3, 4 and so on but reality is the new player has quit the game because there are just to many people killing whatever gets in their sight with no reason at all, no matter how weak their opponents are.
Got the point?
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Wolf Leader
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Posted - 2003.08.16 07:44:00 -
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umm...nothing to do in .0 space.... i wouldnt go that far given its hard as hell to nail down a ship and make it pay ya or dump its cargo but i have fun blasting tons of ship that reject my convos or try to run or heaven forbid try to shoot me. U sure your a pirate lifewire or maybe ur just a carebare in disguise. Why dont u follow me in to this area right behind this planet and me and the boys will..take care of ya..
But im a nice guy..... |
Lifewire
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Posted - 2003.08.16 10:19:00 -
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CCP, let this server go on and watch the new server with people having fun...make it possible. We pay for the game and we want a game with strong war/pvp elements like u promised in the game discription of the sell package!
The new server should have these features:
- 20 bases full of police/navy for the n00bs, no sentry guns everywhere.
- afterburner 5% bonus so that it is impossible to fly faster than missiles *lol*
- frigates should be really fast 600-800 m/s, cruisers 300-600 m/s, battleships 100-300 m/s so that tactical elements appear and n00bs have a chance. At the moment the fastest ships are those who have a lot of med slots - they get really fast, my ship makes 2400 m/s, 3 times faster than a missile *big lol* on ur "balancing".
- the market shoulnd work region-wide. Trade should only be possible at the base u are, the good old "elite"-system - this works bug-free and not lag-causing!
- it should be possible to set an approach distance (depending on nav skill) when warping, so also a trader has a chance to check the location before he approaches it.
- there should be some locations with NPC pirates to loot - some!
- there should be some navy/police ships patrolling - some! Not 20 times more than players in game! *lol*
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Kashej
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Posted - 2003.08.16 10:43:00 -
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omg...
iddy
Good Luck
O(o_o)O - y kotorogo net dryzei.
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Gan Howorth
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Posted - 2003.08.16 11:01:00 -
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Sorry Lifewire, what part in this thread justified your "I want.." becoming "We want.."
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.16 11:08:00 -
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Go play CS, fool.
This is a communitygame.
Not PodKill'R'Us.
If you want some serious action then pick a fight with some pirates.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Lifewire
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Posted - 2003.08.16 11:08:00 -
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Who is the "iddy"? s1 who thinks that missiles should be 3 x slower than spacecrafts? Really realistic! Who is the "iddy"? s1 who thinks there should be 20 x more police than players? Really realistic! Even in germany we dont have that much police and u guys in russia may have that much mafia but not police! Who is the "iddy"? s1 who thinks mining 80 % of the play time is fun? Whos is the "iddy"? s1 who thinks thats realistic that a automated and respawning sentry gun is more worth than a BS?
Whos is the "iddy"? s1 who thinks that police ships should scramble and SPAWN instantly and in masses near an attacker? Really realistic!
CCP, do it!
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2003.08.16 11:11:00 -
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We = SAD, i dont talk of all players! Try to kill us for our oppinion *lol*...try it...
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2003.08.16 11:12:00 -
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Who is the "fool"? s1 who needs a mining game with chat to have friends?
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.16 11:13:00 -
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I think we did recently pod one of your players...
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Lifewire
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Posted - 2003.08.16 11:15:00 -
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did u? paranoia?
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.16 11:16:00 -
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I dunno.
The corp S.A.D seems familiar though - maybe I'm just high on Quafe.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Lifewire
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Posted - 2003.08.16 11:18:00 -
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Hey...try it...did u really think over the game concept??? Think = use ur brain!
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Raven DeBlade
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Posted - 2003.08.16 11:18:00 -
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*gimme gimme gimme* ooooh please *gimme gimme gimme* grow up!!!
"To hunt pirates you need time and patience, because even monkeys fall from the trees"
"Any statements made above this line are my persona" |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.16 11:21:00 -
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I think therefore I spam.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Lifewire
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Posted - 2003.08.16 11:28:00 -
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I dont wanted a discussion with softcore players, i wanted a hardcore server
This game is dying - every1 knows, it¦s too boring. Too many bugs and lags (often caused by police and this huge market options). Online game = game vs real players. NPC elements should be not that much important. NPCs are little stupid Is and Os on the server, they only have a chance if they cheat: instant scramble, instant spawn, massive firepower. It¦s not interesting fighting with them - it¦s simply stupid.
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Aurik Ulanti
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Posted - 2003.08.16 11:30:00 -
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You might not have read the games manual, but I did. Most ppl propably did. I read it once again just make sure it doesn't state somewhere that EVE is a "massively kill 'em all pvp mad cap game"...
To my great surprise I didn't find that.
This game is based on gamer interaction, trading, mining, production, and some things like pirating, bountyhunting and a ton of other things...like pvp.
How did your brain twist things to make EVE into a primaraly pvp game?
No offence meant, but your childish input ticked me off somewhat.
It's pretty clear you don't need EVE, you need an alltogether different game...to look for it.
"In the end you will remember not the words of your enemies, but the silence of your friends" |
la'Rei
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Posted - 2003.08.16 11:30:00 -
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I dont wanted a discussion with softcore players, i wanted a hardcore server
"I wanted a hardcore server" HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH sorry... BHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... cant... GHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA... help... myself HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA.
-rei
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2003.08.16 11:35:00 -
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I read the manual, and the EVE options seem to be great - they seem. Did anyone uf u guys imagine what to do in this game when u all have reached ur targets? What is ur target? 10.000.000 ISK? 100.000.000 ISK? A titan? What will u do with ur cruisers, battleships and titans? Mining? No discussion: we need seccure locations - but not the whole habitted map! CCP fears the killed leaving players - they should fear the leaving pirates because the action part of the game leaves with them, leaving a boring mining game with chat behind!
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ga'ia
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Posted - 2003.08.16 11:38:00 -
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la'Rei
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Posted - 2003.08.16 11:38:00 -
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I read the manual, and the EVE options seem to be great - they seem. Did anyone uf u guys imagine what to do in this game when u all have reached ur targets? What is ur target? 10.000.000 ISK? 100.000.000 ISK? A titan? What will u do with ur cruisers, battleships and titans? Mining? No discussion: we need seccure locations - but not the whole habitted map! CCP fears the killed leaving players - they should fear the leaving pirates because the action part of the game leaves with them, leaving a boring mining game with chat behind!
75% of the eve universe is 0.0
let me beat this into your head since what everyone else has said didnt sink in.
0.0 HAS NO SENTRY GUNS... ... NO COPS...
WOW! I think I just proved what you said EXACTLY... no go shutup, and kill people...
-rei
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fallus
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Posted - 2003.08.16 11:39:00 -
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Well I think Lifewire is to be congratulated. It takes skill and years of patient training to be able to miss the point so spectacularly. |
Aurik Ulanti
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Posted - 2003.08.16 11:41:00 -
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Edited by: Aurik Ulanti on 16/08/2003 11:42:17
I DO agree that there are issues with which space is secure and which is not. Specially with "secure" space beeing not very secure at all.
But CCP need to fix those issues (among others), not set up a totally new server where people can go and kill everything in sight. Simply because that wouldn't be EVE anymore and besides it would divert resources from the real EVE and my guess is CCP need all it's time to fix things there...
And to be honest and realistic...you can scream your throat into a bloody pulp, you're still not getting a secong server.
Give the game some time, I'm confident it'll get much better.
"In the end you will remember not the words of your enemies, but the silence of your friends" |
Aurik Ulanti
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Posted - 2003.08.16 11:45:00 -
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DAMN...now look what you've made me do Lifewire...I was cooking my last two eggs to eat them at breakfast and all this ruckus made me overcook them with 6 minutes!
I like 'em hard...but not like bricks.
"In the end you will remember not the words of your enemies, but the silence of your friends" |
Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2003.08.16 11:45:00 -
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Who is the "fool"? s1 who needs a mining game with chat to have friends?
Hey lifewire, this is a MMORPG,MAssive multiplayer online role playing game...
If you dont know how to roleplay and the only thing you want is to mess up other players, then be free to transfer back to what ever game you played before, Diablo 2 or something like that.
Get into the storyline, join a corp that suits you, wacth and learn.
This is not a shootem up game, with "Ihave a bigger gun than you" attitude.
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2003.08.16 11:50:00 -
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75% of the map are 0.0 - and empty. Only pirates should kill each other, he? Using the map makes it easy to find s1 to attack - and makes it easy to evade a battle!
This game is a mining game with chat and i can go "mining" whole day at work and chat for free in whole internet.
EVE could be great...but the finacial interests of CCP will collapse the system: without pirates, no fun! U all will get sleepy hanging under ur asteroids and selling the stuff in a buggy and laggy market
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Riddari
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Posted - 2003.08.16 11:50:00 -
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Edited by: Riddari on 16/08/2003 11:50:20
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Aurik Ulanti
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Posted - 2003.08.16 11:55:00 -
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Go start a corp war, plenty of opportunities to prove your fighting abilities and plenty of loot.
Should be fun, no?
"In the end you will remember not the words of your enemies, but the silence of your friends" |
Lifewire
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Posted - 2003.08.16 12:08:00 -
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We have severall corp wars and severall corps to have more corp wars. I wait for next patch making corp wars impossible! And: every1 can leave a corp, anytime - even in battle. It¦s sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo stupid!
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la'Rei
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Posted - 2003.08.16 12:14:00 -
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We have severall corp wars and severall corps to have more corp wars. I wait for next patch making corp wars impossible! And: every1 can leave a corp, anytime - even in battle. It¦s sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo stupid!
please stop trolling. I dont beleive I'm saying that.
-rei
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2003.08.16 12:18:00 -
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U want to try? Attack me with ur BS? Tell location and time, i¦ll be there in a frigate and i kill ur BS with sentry guns and police support. Dont forget to declare war on SAD first!  It wont help u you. You will get scrambled, u cant move, cant target, cant warp, cant fire - u can only watch ur armor going down.
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Aurik Ulanti
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Posted - 2003.08.16 12:29:00 -
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I myself won't try. I roleplay my character and he is an industrialist/scientist.
But I'm pretty sure you can fight with some other pirates. Loot as loot right?
And I'm also pretty sure they would be a challenge.
"In the end you will remember not the words of your enemies, but the silence of your friends" |
la'Rei
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Posted - 2003.08.16 12:31:00 -
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U want to try? Attack me with ur BS? Tell location and time, i¦ll be there in a frigate and i kill ur BS with sentry guns and police support. Dont forget to declare war on SAD first! It wont help u you. You will get scrambled, u cant move, cant target, cant warp, cant fire - u can only watch ur armor going down.
unless in the last day, or two... they made god sentry guns... I really doubt a sentry gun would kill me before I gated. due to the fact it's not a sec hit action CONCORD wouldnt come... so...
I would pod your frigate, wait a minute, and gate with 50% sheilds.
-rei (or wait for you to fire)
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2003.08.16 12:48:00 -
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*lol* u didnt even think over the consquences! U will get a sec hit and u wont be able to warp, jump, target, fire or just move. So what, come on with ur BS...COME ON...attack! Or go on mining and leave this discussion. U didnt even understand simple rules of the game - girls...
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Drux
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Posted - 2003.08.16 12:58:00 -
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Im confused, whats a Hardcore player and a softcore player is it as follows :)
Hardcaore : Anyone with a BIG ship, BIG gun, BIG shelds etc
Softcore: anyone who can be killed with 1 shot from the above.
or
Hardcore : anyone one who plays 24/7 cant get enought of the game. play all aspects of the game, mine/trade/manufacture/hunt & PVP
Softcore : the casual player
which
Drux
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Dan Forever
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Posted - 2003.08.16 14:46:00 -
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Lifewire, you just don't get it do you?
No matter how much you complain, CCP wouldn't ever give into your request.
Partly due to the cost of a second server (you do know how much a server for a MMO game is, don't you?) but mainly due to the fact that absolutly no one has expressed the same desires as yourself.
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TekRa
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Posted - 2003.08.16 15:04:00 -
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Livewire:
> With the lights out it's less dangerous. |
Lifewire
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Posted - 2003.08.16 15:05:00 -
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A anarchy game or hardcore game has nothing to do with big guns or big ships...every descision will count...read excatly what i proposed!
Why discuss it? CCP if possible open a second server with the features i proposed...time will tell. CCP destroys more than the new patches help at the moment. Some winers wanted sentry guns everywhere - u gave them. U gave them police ships that are gods on the battlefield. Pirates now cant dock, cant jump only can die or hang arround in empty 0.0 systems. What next? Only 1 war each corp? Make targeting to an aggresive act? Build in flowers and hydroponics in ships? Perhaps chance the music to anti-vietnam-war sound of the seventies? Since the invention of the olympic games the idea is to mess with each other in a game! Players are getting fewer...i wont pay for ever too for a game with 0.0 action.
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Mitch Taylor
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Posted - 2003.08.16 15:05:00 -
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Edited by: Mitch Taylor on 16/08/2003 15:07:34
Ok 2 things.
1. Keep going you wierdo, im sure the devs are sitting at their comps laughing like hell at you for a)suggesting this ridiculous crap and b) telling them that their game will fail if people like you leave, because most pirates are NOT like you. They DONT enjoy ganking everyone in sight just for s**ts and giggles. You may have the physical age to remember elite, but you certainly dont have the mental age.
2. Just to be a nitpicky little bastard
Riddari, your sig says left eye, and it is from our perspective but its actually your right eye
EDIT: nice one TekRa
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Tilihad
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Posted - 2003.08.16 15:06:00 -
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I dont post much but i just had to log in to say,
This is a joke thread, right?
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2003.08.16 15:23:00 -
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I am sure they are not laughing: they know players are getting fewer - and money is getting fewer with them. All their descissions seem to be helpless - not coordinated, full of bugs! They need our help and i am not the only 1 that thinks we are on the wrong way! Again my question: what next? Sentry guns in asteroid belts? Double police patrols? At the moment on every real player there are 20 police ships Is that an realistic athmosphere? Nobody needs to fight for his ore, u just fly out, get the ore and check in...zzz.zzz.zzz...checking the map even tells when a bigger fleet approaches a mining corp in 0.0 systems...there is no danger, only stupid folks die shot by pirates. Just use ur map: u see exactly where poddings are going on, u see exactly where bigger fleets approach u.
I forget to tell CCP:
- no seccure containers...why shot at a ship when its cargo is locked? zzz.zzz.zzz
- change the map! Is it an all-seeing satelite or what?
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Cruise
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Posted - 2003.08.16 15:29:00 -
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Edited by: Cruise on 16/08/2003 15:37:51
He wants a game for hardcore pvp...one to go bang bang at free will. No mining or trading or economic wars, etc., etc....Duh me: Freelancer! Go play THAT game if you're so frustrated with this one. Geez.
Look, they're not going to set up a separate server for the 'hardcore' because then what? You get your fancy BS and rig it to the teeth and suddenly you're waste-fragging everyone until you get bored with THAT in a couple of weeks and then ask for something ELSE to make it more entertaining, eh? Oh, and this guy over here wants THIS added to make it fun for HIM. And there's another...and another....you get the picture? PLEASE?!
C'mon...games aren't the end-all-to-end-all entertainment made specifically after your own individual needs. You want a game to keep you happy, write one.
Oh, and what are you using as a resource for stating people are leaving the game based on what you're trying to complain about? What are you using as hard fact to back that up? Some of the people you know are leaving? Had a look at Eve-i.com's server status? Care to look at it over the last 2 or 3 months and tell me where the plummet of players leaving the game is? I see it averaging out and steady for some time now.
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Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis ad capul tuum saxum immane mittam.
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2003.08.16 15:38:00 -
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Read it again, son! I wont go out kill every1, i will not be able to go out and kill every1. Read exactly what i proposed!
The balancing of the game is really bad at the moment. It will need time to show u, but i wont pay $$ this time u need to understand. Other massive-online-games will appear...
20 years ago i played a game called "elite". EVE is "elite" with the difference that we all can play on 1 server. But oops! Some players attack other players! Olala, who could imagine? Exactly that is the new feature that is interessting: pvp!
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calliope
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Posted - 2003.08.16 15:39:00 -
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Eve isn't based on PvP, it's based on a whole world, a complete economy, role playing and player-player interaction.
I'm not saying CCP have got it right yet (not by a long shot), but they're trying and I have to say, I think they might just get there sometime.
If you're looking for "hardcore" PvP, there are plenty of other games on the market - Diablo, CS etc - take your pick.
You might want Eve to be mutated into a PvP experience, but I think the point is that you're pretty much out on a limb by yourself here (witness all the other posts in this thread).
Give it up and either join in or go elsewhere, no one is forcing you to stay.
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Mandible
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Posted - 2003.08.16 15:52:00 -
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Edited by: Mandible on 16/08/2003 15:53:56
Edited by: Mandible on 16/08/2003 15:52:40
Nope no one is forcing you to play this game, is it? Is it??
I find this game becoming more and more interesting every day, and there whas a moment i thought what boring game this is. The possibility's might not be endless but at least pretty diverse. Of course you need to find them, use some imagination and will to make it interesting. Well i don't blame you if you are unable to make the game interesting for you. Not everyone has what it takes....
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2003.08.16 15:53:00 -
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No, this is a forum and i can post my oppinion as long as i want! I dont want to make EVE to a game like CS...i want to change it to realism!
Are these sentry guns realistic? Are these instant-scrambling and spawning police ships realistic? Is it realistic that ships fly 3 x faster than a missile? Is it realistic that cargo in a ship can be locked with seccure containers so that n1 can get it? Is it realistic that the map is better then CIA satelites? Is it realistic that space is full of police ships - 100.000 of them! Is it realistic that a corp can only declare 4 wars? Is it realistic that they wait 24 h to warn their enemy? Is it realistic that s1 attacked in corp war just leaves the corp so the attacker gets a security hit and dies by police? Is it realistic that splash damage on a jump gate can result in an attack of sentry guns? And lots of other not good balanced things. Reason: CCP fears killed players to leave! ISK õõh $, but not my $
I am just waiting for the first corp declaring war on SAD...we will love it when sentry guns and police make wrecks of ur battleships.
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Mandible
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Posted - 2003.08.16 15:57:00 -
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Edited by: Mandible on 16/08/2003 15:59:35
Realistic now that is a complex topic. I don't have a clue what will be realistic when mankind is able to go wherever space is, with the speed of light. If mankind will ever reach that point. But i can imagine when ships jump at the speed of light it wouldn't be that hard to avoid a simple torpedo
Oh and just a simple question to clarify things. Do you play for free. I mean you say Cash but not my cash and in the same time can't wait till players declare war on your corp. So whats it gonna be boy, you play and pay or you dont?
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Cruise
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Posted - 2003.08.16 16:03:00 -
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Realistic? Are you an expert in astrophysics? Can you be certain all of the innovations in the ship designs couldn't work in space (like thrust boosters structured to outrun missiles?) Hell, a decent F-15 kicking it's engines on a missile alert and jamming said missile can be missed, can't it? And that's in an atmosphere that creates drag and friction.
This is a sci-fi roleplaying game based on a many number of factors, not the least of which is pvp. You may not like the physics or the 'realism' of the game but I really can't see tossing out a myriad of 'changes' you think would make it more realistic without someone else crying foul for them catering to your wants.
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Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis ad capul tuum saxum immane mittam.
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Wolf Leader
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Posted - 2003.08.16 16:09:00 -
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Um lifewire are you just plain stupid. I have never seen such overwhelming support against any one person in forums except maybe against molly. but have you noticed that not one person has agreed with you. Not one single person. DO you know why that is because u are wrong now. I dont ike sec system the way it is but i am moderately happy with it i have plenty of people to kill in .0 You are probly at one of the last systems in one of the arms scratching your head and saying durr i wonder why no one wants to come 60 jumps so i can kill them. No one likes you and you S.A.D.
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calliope
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Posted - 2003.08.16 16:11:00 -
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Edited by: calliope on 16/08/2003 16:17:54
No one mentioned stopping you posting on these forums.
No one has said that CCP has got the balance of the game right yet.
No one appears to agree with you either.
You want realism? Stop playing a game.
You want to kill people with realism? Go live where gun ownership is legal and/or inexpensive.
You're frustrated that you're not allowed to kill anyone on sight? Head into 0.0 space.
You want to play Elite? Buy a BBC B (Elite still rocks).
Eve is not Elite, neither was Elite a hardcore combat game - there was combat yes, but the game was about trading slightly more than fighting. It also let you choose, as Eve does, which area you wanted to concentrate on. If you want PvP go into 0.0 space and kick ass with your lovely shiny BS.
However, if you want a different server, with different rules and perhaps a different forum to whine on, I'd probably support that ...
Otherwise, let your frustrations out on the dev server like anyone else and ask for slightly smaller balance changes. You never know, someone might agree with you then.
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2003.08.16 16:18:00 -
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blablabla...
CCP!!!! I want double police patrols cause i am frightened of all these aggressive players! Sniv!
CCP!!!! I want more sentry guns that destroy a BS with 1 shot! Cant u ban M0o these dirty cheaters killed me! I had no single laser but they attacked me! How can that be? Sniv!
I dont want to discuss that for too long...i want an anarchy server and this server to go on like that. That¦s the only solution...it will prove that the balancing will work like in jungle. Too much pirates will force the traders to work together, fewer pirates will cause some traders to kill other traders and get pirates...it will work! It will be fun, every flight will be dangerous and has to be well planned. Escorts will be needed! Pirate hunters will get payed a lot. Perhaps big trader corps will themselves build up a police with payed real player members!
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calliope
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Posted - 2003.08.16 16:19:00 -
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blablabla...
I think you'd have no one to play with in your own little world ...
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Wolf Leader
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Posted - 2003.08.16 16:27:00 -
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Lifewire ive come to the conclusion that your either an idiot or a member of a rival company that is trying to make ccp go bankrupt. I think that ccp arent the smartest people but i am going to thank god every night that morons like u are not in places of power. Even i like to go to .8 and .9 space and be able to fly around or mine to build some ****.
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Cruise
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Posted - 2003.08.16 16:32:00 -
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Edited by: Cruise on 16/08/2003 16:34:03
"Too much pirates will force the traders to work together" This couldn't happen in the standard game? Puleez.
"..fewer pirates will cause some traders to kill other traders and get pirates.." Again, come on. Pirates, like any other type of character, fluctuate in sheer numbers. It's not like there's 3,000 pirates out there and that's it, no more and no less ever. You think only pirates are capable of taking out other characters? lol
"it will work! It will be fun, every flight will be dangerous and has to be well planned. Escorts will be needed! Pirate hunters will get payed a lot. Perhaps big trader corps will themselves build up a police with payed real player members!" Uh huh, and let's say this happens, but of course the miners aren't a factor in the game, the ships and kit just show up, right? Corps just have isk miraculously because the trade portion of the game's not a factor either, right?
Or maybe the corps, because they have more players, get to have more stuff just because....You throw out a lot of hype and all it spells is you wanting the freedom to gun down anything you want at any time you want, and I'm sorry but the game's not going to change drastically because you can't play bang bang as much.
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Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis ad capul tuum saxum immane mittam.
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2003.08.16 16:36:00 -
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U dont see that too many pirates already left the game. I only tell CCP why! I am not M0o, not M3G4! We have a little corp and after severall weeks we see: the game is boring - all we can do is go on mining or trading. When i started i was killed by a pirate BS in my Bantam - i wasnt frustrated, i thought: good and hard game.
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Tyr Guann
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Posted - 2003.08.16 16:58:00 -
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Quote:
U dont see that too many pirates already left the game. I only tell CCP why! I am not M0o, not M3G4! We have a little corp and after severall weeks we see: the game is boring - all we can do is go on mining or trading. When i started i was killed by a pirate BS in my Bantam - i wasnt frustrated, i thought: good and hard game.
ahh, i see now, you're on the assumption that this game has difficulty levels. well, sorry to say, it doesn't. it's as hard or as easy as we make it. if you want hard, then go into secure space and pick a fight, be it with other "big bad scary" battleship owners, or with NPCs. for laughs, you can go to Yulai, and camp the concord HQ. or better yet, pick a fight with a pirate corp. there are several out there. i'm sure that Setec and his Space Invaders will oblige you.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.16 17:00:00 -
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Even I'm embarrassed for him.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
calliope
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Posted - 2003.08.16 17:14:00 -
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Edited by: calliope on 16/08/2003 17:20:18
Lifewire, as has been said above (rather a lot now), if you don't like it, just go.
So some pirates have left, that's very sad and I'm sorry for you that your peer group is diminished.
The changes you want however would spoil the game for the rest of us. That is why CCP won't implement them. That is why no one will agree with you, except perhaps for a small band of PC pirate players.
I have no issue with you being a pirate, that's exactly what the game is about - choice. You choose to be a pirate and concentrate on the PvP you enjoy whilst I (and the majority of other players) do not.
Equally, if the game is not to your liking, then you can choose to leave. If you were to be a little creative, I'm sure you could find plenty of ways to increase the amount of PvP you get. I certainly don't find it hard to start shooting someone in a 0.0.
What I do take issue with is you trying to force us to play the same game as you. If being a carebear means that I enjoy the game without killing other players all the time, then perhaps I am one. I know that whenever I want to kill someone (and risk being killed) I can wander out of the relatively small area where there is police protection and into 0.0 space (which covers most of the map really) and do so. I can choose to do that and do so often.
You may say that you're not trying to remove my right to choose, but if CCP had to concentrate on bringing another server online just to please the few, they would spend less time trying to improve the game for the many.
Do you, perhaps, think that there is something wrong in CCP chasing $$$? In order to do that they have to please the most people in the game that they can so that they stay. That means not acceeding to random requests from a very, very small minority of players.
"I want" doesn't get. As you don't like it, just leave. It's always sad to see someone leave the game, but OK, if that's how you feel, goodbye.
However, if you feel like a challenge and want to do something useful rather than just whining about things, try coming up with a few more constructive ideas about how the game could be improved for everyone. Hint: this is unlikely to involve massively changing the universe.
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Mandos
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Posted - 2003.08.16 17:27:00 -
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Considering this entire topic is filled with trolling, flaming, and general hostility ... I'm locking it up.
Debating is one thing, but please follow the forum rules when you do. There is absolutely no good reason to be verbally abusive and/or aggressive to get a point through. Really!
-- Mandos
Polaris Forum Moderator and Bug Hunter
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