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Pheonix Grey
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Posted - 2005.12.17 10:09:00 -
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If you take something out of someones can, then you are flagged and they can shoot you fair enough... BUT when they have shot you and agressed and everythings all nice and red, can you shoot back without concord inteference? e.g
Player 1 kills NPC
Player 2 steals loot
Player 1 feels unloved and shoots Player 2
Player 2 doesnt want to die and tries to defend self.....
Will concord intervene...
This is the question.
Phe0nix
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BuzzBuz
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Posted - 2005.12.17 10:22:00 -
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Concord will NOT interfere.
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Pheonix Grey
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Posted - 2005.12.17 10:23:00 -
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In that case, so much for complex camping...
*puts can down with spare key in and waits*
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Feiht ero
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Posted - 2005.12.17 10:58:00 -
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Edited by: Feiht ero on 17/12/2005 10:58:29
If you take somthing out of somones can when they are offline you also get flagged, although the persons is not around to shoot you their corp maybe and they get the same rights
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MacMillan
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Posted - 2005.12.17 11:00:00 -
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Basic Rule if it aint urs dont take it and u wont get a fight
If u want to fight take it :)
Can setup fight clubs now any one can fight anyone with concent :)
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Jennai
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Posted - 2005.12.17 11:04:00 -
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I found some macro miners trying to protect their ore with a kestrel. I took from their can, the kestrel shot me, I blew it up. then it came back five minutes later in a newb ship and it was still flagged so I blew it up again. then their hauler took from my can so I blew it up.
DEATH TO MACRO MINERS!
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chingon
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Posted - 2005.12.17 11:08:00 -
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can you shoot the flagged person's pod too? Probably not right?
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Pheonix Grey
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Posted - 2005.12.17 11:09:00 -
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dont know but dont shoot their drones, they arent actually flagged and concord will hurt you ^^
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Basileus
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Posted - 2005.12.17 11:12:00 -
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Do you get the security status hit if you kill your attacker after you've robbed the can?
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Jennai
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Posted - 2005.12.17 11:14:00 -
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Edited by: Jennai on 17/12/2005 11:14:44
Edited by: Jennai on 17/12/2005 11:14:11
the pods aren't flashing on overview so I assume you can't shoot them without getting concorded, but if they come back in a ship your flag will still be good. also I think if they shoot at you, it refreshes the timer to the full 15 minutes.
no sec loss at all unless you suicide their pod.
if they don't shoot you, you can't attack them unless they've been flagged for taking from your can.
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Kinderschokolade
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Posted - 2005.12.17 11:20:00 -
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Well,
container flagging is a new griefer tool (like empire wars are an old one). I have seen ppl jettison cans and name them "free stuff", "newbie starter kit" and so on, just to be able to shoot at the newbies. How lame is that? And why does CCP support this?
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Jennai
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Posted - 2005.12.17 11:22:00 -
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newbies will only fall for it once, unless they're dumb enough to turn off the BIG OBVIOUS WARNING POPUP and not turn it back on after being can baited.
macro miners and ebay farmers will fall for it over and over because either they're automated or they're so desperate for minerals that they'll take from a macro hunter's can even after they've died to it twice already today.
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chingon
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Posted - 2005.12.17 11:51:00 -
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another question about this: Say you are doing a mission and when it's finished your space is full of your loot cans,then someone comes in and takes one of your loot cans,the criminal flagging begins to run,you head over and shoot the person,he heads off whining in his pod,but... he left a loot can from his ship,can you now take his loot that dropped from his ship without getting flagged yourself?
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.12.17 11:56:00 -
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no. when you take his can, you get flagged to him (at least thats what happened on sisi)
but since he can shoot back as soon as you fire at him, it doesn't matter that you are flagged
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chingon
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Posted - 2005.12.17 11:59:00 -
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 Originally by: HippoKing
no. when you take his can, you get flagged to him (at least thats what happened on sisi)
but since he can shoot back as soon as you fire at him, it doesn't matter that you are flagged
k thx for clarification hippo
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Jozeph Spinne
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Posted - 2005.12.17 13:30:00 -
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Ok this is how it works (personal Expirience:
1 - When you take someones stuff/ from their can: You become Flagged to them.
They Can Shoot you - but you CAN NOT open fire first. You have to wait till they Fire - otherwise concord brings a swift and deadly and to your ship.
2 - Once they started shooting - feel free to kill their ship[s]
3 - Do Not Kill the pod/Dont even Fire on the Pod - just have a Suicide Kessy Standing by for A Pod & make sure he is NOT part of your gang. Cause Concord will get ****y if you fire on the pod.
When someone steals from you - you have a choice to engage or not. Flaging Dosesent matter. So Basically if you do not engage the thief - they cant fire on you otherwise they are riskins almost certain death to themselves and their gangmates.
Reagrding the first Post:
If you are in a complex and someone is faster than you - Like me: a Ceptor that goes over 3 k/ms on AB. And they get to the RAT can first - and it wasnt your can/ but just some average can droped from the rat - then you cant shoot them - you get concodogank. I do not think they implemented tying your ratkills to the cans.
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Pheonix Grey
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Posted - 2005.12.17 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Jozeph Spinne
Ok this is how it works (personal Expirience:
1 - When you take someones stuff/ from their can: You become Flagged to them.
They Can Shoot you - but you CAN NOT open fire first. You have to wait till they Fire - otherwise concord brings a swift and deadly and to your ship.
2 - Once they started shooting - feel free to kill their ship[s]
3 - Do Not Kill the pod/Dont even Fire on the Pod - just have a Suicide Kessy Standing by for A Pod & make sure he is NOT part of your gang. Cause Concord will get ****y if you fire on the pod.
When someone steals from you - you have a choice to engage or not. Flaging Dosesent matter. So Basically if you do not engage the thief - they cant fire on you otherwise they are riskins almost certain death to themselves and their gangmates.
Reagrding the first Post:
If you are in a complex and someone is faster than you - Like me: a Ceptor that goes over 3 k/ms on AB. And they get to the RAT can first - and it wasnt your can/ but just some average can droped from the rat - then you cant shoot them - you get concodogank. I do not think they implemented tying your ratkills to the cans.
cheers for the info, however when you are ratting and the NPC drops a loot can, that can is flagged to your corp so if anyone does take the loot out of it, they are flagged and you can kill em.
Trust me, i've done this a couple hours ago in several complexes :P
Phe0nix
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Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2005.12.17 14:01:00 -
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aye whatever you do, dont shoot his drones.. Lost my deimos the hard way finding that out
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