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Trin Javidan
Caymen Labs
18
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Posted - 2013.07.29 12:04:00 -
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CCP's EVE Nullsec Content-filling Masterplan: From the old beginning: 2 alliances were created to make the game interesting: BOB & GOONS to create a dynamic nullsec. Rivaly between them created the stories that gets told today. But T20 did a whoopsy that got leaked out. The public image of CCP and BOB were damaged. BOB (a dev, now in goon) silently hit the "red" button. The disband button on the exacly right time (coincedance, mm i dont think so). BOB went, regrouped and half of them went to faction warefare and the other half regrouped into 2 corps in Goons. After the balance of EVE nullsec was gone, a 0.0 stalemate took place. A handfull of combat took place but expecialy the north had become 1 nap fest powerbloc. Something had to happend and CCP came up with the Tech & Anomaly changes, to spice up the combat. Goon went from underdog to powerdog due all the "Lucky" moonspawns in their recent new home system that Tau Ceti Fedaration "gave" them. The moon grabbing took place, PL joined in and magicly from out of nowere this new Alliance roose, TEST. Based on the same idea that made goons strong, recruiting looooads of beginner 0.0 pilots for their first baby 0.0 steps. This is the part thats genious market wise to fill up 0.0 moar and take the psycological entry barriere away that most high sec puppies have. Give it a year and they are all vets ready for combat. All CCP now have to do is make those 2 go to war and everything spreads out in a long term plan, everyone lives happy ever on... space gets filled, goons can milk moar goo and ect ect im bored typing. |

Alphea Abbra
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
348
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Posted - 2013.07.29 12:06:00 -
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0Lona 0ltor wrote:All moon minerals should be randomized every month to discourage bluing all of null. Now that goons have taken all the moons there will be a long era of farming with zero reason to war again. Allowing out posts to be destroyed and its Contents to be looted would be epic for null too. All players in hi-sec, docked or undocked, should be CONCORDED at a random time once a month. It would discourage carebearing in this era of farming. Assets in NPC stations should self-destruct.
It's not entirely equivalent in form, but it is in stupidity. |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
2448
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Posted - 2013.07.29 12:18:00 -
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Trin Javidan wrote:CCP's EVE Nullsec Content-filling Masterplan: From the old beginning: 2 alliances were created to make the game interesting: BOB & GOONS to create a dynamic nullsec. Rivaly between them created the stories that gets told today. But T20 did a whoopsy that got leaked out. The public image of CCP and BOB were damaged. BOB (a dev, now in goon) silently hit the "red" button. The disband button on the exacly right time (coincedance, mm i dont think so). BOB went, regrouped and half of them went to faction warefare and the other half regrouped into 2 corps in Goons. After the balance of EVE nullsec was gone, a 0.0 stalemate took place. A handfull of combat took place but expecialy the north had become 1 nap fest powerbloc. Something had to happend and CCP came up with the Tech & Anomaly changes, to spice up the combat. Goon went from underdog to powerdog due all the "Lucky" moonspawns in their recent new home system that Tau Ceti Fedaration "gave" them. The moon grabbing took place, PL joined in and magicly from out of nowere this new Alliance roose, TEST. Based on the same idea that made goons strong, recruiting looooads of beginner 0.0 pilots for their first baby 0.0 steps. This is the part thats genious market wise to fill up 0.0 moar and take the psycological entry barriere away that most high sec puppies have. Give it a year and they are all vets ready for combat. All CCP now have to do is make those 2 go to war and everything spreads out in a long term plan, everyone lives happy ever on... space gets filled, goons can milk moar goo and ect ect im bored typing.
Wow, I'm glad you got bored. You're really bad at it.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8503
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Posted - 2013.07.29 13:45:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Andski wrote:all of this was planned years ago at a bbq
get used to it I have heard that ... things... happened at that bbq. c/d?
Unspeakable things Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3907
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Posted - 2013.07.29 14:01:00 -
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Andski wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Andski wrote:all of this was planned years ago at a bbq
get used to it I have heard that ... things... happened at that bbq. c/d? Unspeakable things :a2m:
or look at the name of the 4-EP station There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is.
PL, NC., N3, Tribe, 401k, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013 |

Kalishka Askulf
Rumors Of Survival Nyratic
14
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Posted - 2013.07.29 14:07:00 -
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JinSanJong wrote:Its a little strange, that all the tech got nerfed, then they move all the moons to fountain, where we all know there has been tension between test/cfc.
Seems a little deliberate...
Yet again why did CCP move the moons into one region and still not spread them out...
I bet you're one of those people who are seen shouting at Pigeons. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3908
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Posted - 2013.07.29 14:15:00 -
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Kalishka Askulf wrote:JinSanJong wrote:Its a little strange, that all the tech got nerfed, then they move all the moons to fountain, where we all know there has been tension between test/cfc.
Seems a little deliberate...
Yet again why did CCP move the moons into one region and still not spread them out... I bet you're one of those people who are seen shouting at Pigeons. Spinning like a sniper Tornado. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is.
PL, NC., N3, Tribe, 401k, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013 |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3764
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Posted - 2013.07.29 15:04:00 -
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Kalishka Askulf wrote:I bet you're one of those people who are seen shouting at Pigeons.
It's too nice a day to be shouting at anyone, instead
Spring is here, a-suh-puh-ring is here. Life is skittles and life is beer. I think the loveliest time of the year is the spring. I do, don't you? 'Course you do. But there's one thing that makes spring complete for me, And makes ev'ry Sunday a treat for me. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1036
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Posted - 2013.07.29 15:16:00 -
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Andski wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Andski wrote:all of this was planned years ago at a bbq
get used to it I have heard that ... things... happened at that bbq. c/d? Unspeakable things
Sexy hair posting best posting.  *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |

Ellendras Silver
No Self Esteem ShAdOw PoLiTiCs
71
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Posted - 2013.07.29 15:39:00 -
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JinSanJong wrote:Its a little strange, that all the tech got nerfed, then they move all the moons to fountain, where we all know there has been tension between test/cfc.
Seems a little deliberate...
Yet again why did CCP move the moons into one region and still not spread them out...
i see his point and i agree. if they would change it so the best moons would be concentrated in the south it would spell disaster for the CFC. |
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Sal Landry
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
76
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Posted - 2013.07.29 15:49:00 -
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Andski wrote:Unspeakable things
Were they untypable as well?
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Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
366
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Posted - 2013.07.29 16:00:00 -
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Ellendras Silver wrote:JinSanJong wrote:Its a little strange, that all the tech got nerfed, then they move all the moons to fountain, where we all know there has been tension between test/cfc.
Seems a little deliberate...
Yet again why did CCP move the moons into one region and still not spread them out... i see his point and i agree. if they would change it so the best moons would be concentrated in the south it would spell disaster for the CFC.
Delve is pretty well packed to the gills with R32 moons, and has been forever. This isn't news look it up on Dotlan. So far as it goes you know what region is short on money moons? Deklain. Fountain came up bingo with a goodly number of the moons that were added with the tech nerf, but that wasn't Goons' space at the time and there had sort of been a cold war going on for about a year.
Considering that neo is are about a tenth of the value currently of peak tech, and that commodity is much more diffuse then tech ever was.....release the tinfoil, Goons weren't helped at all. |

Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra Gallente Federation
450
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Posted - 2013.07.29 16:46:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Ellendras Silver wrote:JinSanJong wrote:Its a little strange, that all the tech got nerfed, then they move all the moons to fountain, where we all know there has been tension between test/cfc.
Seems a little deliberate...
Yet again why did CCP move the moons into one region and still not spread them out... i see his point and i agree. if they would change it so the best moons would be concentrated in the south it would spell disaster for the CFC. Delve is pretty well packed to the gills with R32 moons, and has been forever. This isn't news look it up on Dotlan. So far as it goes you know what region is short on money moons? Deklain. Fountain came up bingo with a goodly number of the moons that were added with the tech nerf, but that wasn't Goons' space at the time and there had sort of been a cold war going on for about a year. Considering that neo is are about a tenth of the value currently of peak tech, and that commodity is much more diffuse then tech ever was.....release the tinfoil, Goons weren't helped at all. But if they let go of the tinfoil hats, how will I know who to block for being a compleate spaztard, conspiracy theorist, kook, crackpot, crank, crazy, flake, fruitcake, lunatic, nut, screwball, and wacko? "I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
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Ellendras Silver
No Self Esteem ShAdOw PoLiTiCs
71
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Posted - 2013.07.29 19:10:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Ellendras Silver wrote:JinSanJong wrote:Its a little strange, that all the tech got nerfed, then they move all the moons to fountain, where we all know there has been tension between test/cfc.
Seems a little deliberate...
Yet again why did CCP move the moons into one region and still not spread them out... i see his point and i agree. if they would change it so the best moons would be concentrated in the south it would spell disaster for the CFC. Delve is pretty well packed to the gills with R32 moons, and has been forever. This isn't news look it up on Dotlan. So far as it goes you know what region is short on money moons? Deklain. Fountain came up bingo with a goodly number of the moons that were added with the tech nerf, but that wasn't Goons' space at the time and there had sort of been a cold war going on for about a year. Considering that neo is are about a tenth of the value currently of peak tech, and that commodity is much more diffuse then tech ever was.....release the tinfoil, Goons weren't helped at all.
great but the real isk is in the R64 moons |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1039
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Posted - 2013.07.29 19:20:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Goons weren't helped at all.
[tinfoil] Server didn't crash this time, so yes you got help ! [/tinfoil]

*removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |

Large Collidable Object
morons.
2167
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Posted - 2013.07.29 21:19:00 -
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I bet nerfing tech and moving most r64 moons into providence would have made the CFC smash into a brick wall ... You know... morons. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3913
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Posted - 2013.07.30 00:18:00 -
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Large Collidable Object wrote:I bet nerfing tech and moving most r64 moons into providence would have made the CFC smash into a brick wall  ... Yeah, a deliciously golden brick wall.
We'd ask fweddit, the pros at amarrian territorial conflicts to lead the war forward. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is.
PL, NC., N3, Tribe, 401k, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013 |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8511
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Posted - 2013.07.30 00:31:00 -
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Sal Landry wrote:Andski wrote:Unspeakable things Were they untypable as well?
Implicitly, yes Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

OldWolf69
IR0N. SpaceMonkey's Alliance
66
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Posted - 2013.07.30 04:22:00 -
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They did put moons in Fountain. Ok. Everyone wanted them. Let's be honest. Having moons is bad, mmkay? Except the moons belong to you. CFC stated it open, invasion for the moons. N3 and PL hoped to pick on them when both sides were tired enough to facilitate it. Goons AND Test. Let's not be childish and suspect somethign else. Or should i say stupid to suspect something else? All their rage is because this did not work, and, hilariously, because of their own jerking. CCP? CCP wanted a war. And PLEX sales. Wich they also got. Financiarly spoken, CCP is the only winner of the war, at this very moment. There was no conspiration. They did just put the moons in a region they were just shure this will start a war. Sandbox, my ar*e. Moons or not, CFC would have invaded Fountain. But feel free to think different, knowing it's wrong. *** Personally, for me Test proved to be a enormous dissapointment. For obvious reasons. Still it was a good war.  |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3917
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Posted - 2013.07.30 04:27:00 -
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OldWolf69 wrote:Moons or not, CFC would have invaded Fountain. But feel free to think different, knowing it's wrong. I'll follow the mittani's line that it wouldn't have happened if not for the moons.
At the very least, if there were good moons elsewhere which were easier to take, I think the invasion would have happened there. Granted, TEST may have been the easiest of the nearby potential targets... There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
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Trin Javidan
Caymen Labs
20
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Posted - 2013.07.30 08:28:00 -
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Onictus wrote:
Delve is pretty well packed to the gills with R32 moons, and has been forever. This isn't news look it up on Dotlan. So far as it goes you know what region is short on money moons? Deklain. Fountain came up bingo with a goodly number of the moons that were added with the tech nerf, but that wasn't Goons' space at the time and there had sort of been a cold war going on for about a year.
Considering that neo is are about a tenth of the value currently of peak tech, and that commodity is much more diffuse then tech ever was.....release the tinfoil, Goons weren't helped at all.
Yoow wassup Onictus, thats been a loooong time.... How are you doing?
/H |

Pytria Le'Danness
Placid Reborn
27
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Posted - 2013.07.30 11:51:00 -
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Do you remember the silly Windows hacks where you got a button (or anything) that you need to click, but it moves away from the mouse?
It would be kinda funny if the valuable moons would start behaving in the same way :D |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8511
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Posted - 2013.07.30 12:13:00 -
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it's even more funny when hisec peasants envy nullsec but refuse to move there because there's a chance of being blown up Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

OldWolf69
IR0N. SpaceMonkey's Alliance
66
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Posted - 2013.07.30 12:41:00 -
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Andski wrote:it's even more funny when hisec peasants envy nullsec but refuse to move there because there's a chance of being blown up "There might be Dragons" Absolutely true. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8512
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Posted - 2013.07.30 13:15:00 -
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"ccp please nerf moons in nullsec, as a worthless hiseccer it concerns me greatly that nullsec alliances are getting too rich by virtue of their prowess in fights and it bothers me that i, as an individual who refuses to work with other players, cannot make those riches myself" Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15815
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Posted - 2013.07.30 13:21:00 -
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Andski wrote:"ccp please nerf moons in nullsec, as a worthless hiseccer it concerns me greatly that nullsec alliances are getting too rich by virtue of their prowess in fights and it bothers me that i, as an individual who refuses to work with other players, cannot make those riches myself" The funny (or depressing) part of it is that they can make those riches themselves. It's only a couple of bil per moon per month GÇö the equivalent of maybe 125 hours of L4sGǪ and I have this sneaking suspicion that that's not a particularly high number for many mission runners. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
588
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Posted - 2013.07.30 13:28:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Andski wrote:"ccp please nerf moons in nullsec, as a worthless hiseccer it concerns me greatly that nullsec alliances are getting too rich by virtue of their prowess in fights and it bothers me that i, as an individual who refuses to work with other players, cannot make those riches myself" The funny (or depressing) part of it is that they can make those riches themselves. It's only a couple of bil per moon per month GÇö the equivalent of maybe 125 hours of L4sGǪ and I have this sneaking suspicion that that's not a particularly high number for many mission runners.
I would not be surprised either. 4 hours a day is probably not hard if you concentrate your time on EVE. I don't because I play too many different games but I am pretty sure some people are rocking many more hours/months and they are probably the reason why high-sec generate income rivaling moons for some people. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3918
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Posted - 2013.07.30 13:38:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Andski wrote:"ccp please nerf moons in nullsec, as a worthless hiseccer it concerns me greatly that nullsec alliances are getting too rich by virtue of their prowess in fights and it bothers me that i, as an individual who refuses to work with other players, cannot make those riches myself" The funny (or depressing) part of it is that they can make those riches themselves. It's only a couple of bil per moon per month GÇö the equivalent of maybe 125 hours of L4sGǪ and I have this sneaking suspicion that that's not a particularly high number for many mission runners. I thought an R64 was like one bill a month now.
Tech, a lot more, sure. But that was also massively "manipulated" of course. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
2535
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Posted - 2013.07.30 13:38:00 -
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Many outsider think of null moons as these passive isk faucets that just give people candy. They imagine that if you join any null sec alliance you get a free isk spewing Moon in your "welcome new overlord of space" gift basket (along with mints, an Icelandic Ammonia fish and a "CCP Soundwave does the oldies" CD). I mean, it's not like null alliances are risking Trillions of isk in ships, ammunition and fuel and thousands of actual man-hours to find,. get and keep these moons or anything.
For some reason, my gift basket was a few million mega Tonnes light. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3918
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Posted - 2013.07.30 13:53:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Many outsider think of null moons as these passive isk faucets that just give people candy. They imagine that if you join any null sec alliance you get a free isk spewing Moon in your "welcome new overlord of space" gift basket (along with mints, an Icelandic Ammonia fish and a "CCP Soundwave does the oldies" CD). I mean, it's not like null alliances are risking Trillions of isk in ships, ammunition and fuel and thousands of actual man-hours to find,. get and keep these moons or anything.
For some reason, my gift basket was a few million mega Tonnes light. Those ships were supposed to have their MWDs on. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
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