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Tiger Armani
Mialto Corp The Last Chancers.
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Posted - 2013.08.02 09:20:00 -
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What you guys think about the changes?
Lower web range and resistances will make cap escalations a bit more challenging.
Boosters orbiting POS shield propably won't make a difference.
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Asayanami Dei
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
270
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Posted - 2013.08.02 09:21:00 -
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The way we run sites, this hardly changes anything at all. www.wormholefundamentals.com www.youtube.com/user/asayanami www.twitter.com/Asayanami www.facebook.com/Asayanami.Dei
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Setsune Rin
Bite Me inc Bitten.
43
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Posted - 2013.08.02 10:03:00 -
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i calculated the webbing range of a standard loki is going down like 4 kilometers 53 to 49
i could care less, but not going to protest it its OP as hell anyway
just need to keep an eye on your booster i suppose, or have it orbit a deathstar / be somewhere in a safe
it doesn't really do much to us, i'm not that concerned |

Evangelina Nolen
Sama Guild
41
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Posted - 2013.08.02 11:10:00 -
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the local rep changes are the most intriguing. 15% boost also applies to Capital reppers & it sound's like boosts will affect cap modules too. |

Godfrey Silvarna
Frozen Dawn Inc Arctic Light
83
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Posted - 2013.08.02 11:16:00 -
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My archon will repair EVERYTHING.
I also like the idea of faction mindlinks and multiple bonuses on command ships and t3's. My 6-link loki will become quite powerful... though the force field change means I might still have to rethink the fit. |

Job Valador
Super Moose Defence Force
161
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Posted - 2013.08.02 11:54:00 -
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Me and my corp are a bunch incompetent PvPers and have never used an OGB for anything 
Probably the reason for our kill board being worse than a farming corp (At least we try dammit)
however I really like that local rep boost. I personaly like too run active tanks on my ship so maybe my personal luck might turn around with that extra 15%  "The stone exhibited a profound lack of movement." |

WInter Borne
Cold Station 12 Surely You're Joking
79
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Posted - 2013.08.02 13:29:00 -
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The changes dont really affect offgrid boosting from what I could see. My loki will still be neigh unscannable. |

Godfrey Silvarna
Frozen Dawn Inc Arctic Light
83
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Posted - 2013.08.02 13:35:00 -
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WInter Borne wrote:The changes dont really affect offgrid boosting from what I could see. My loki will still be neigh unscannable. Only thing that will change is the 6-link fits since you can't make those unscannable.
On the other hand, there will now be multiple bonuses from ship and mindlinks, so the temptation will still be there. |

Rroff
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
287
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Posted - 2013.08.02 14:06:00 -
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Godfrey Silvarna wrote:WInter Borne wrote:The changes dont really affect offgrid boosting from what I could see. My loki will still be neigh unscannable. Only thing that will change is the 6-link fits since you can't make those unscannable. On the other hand, there will now be multiple bonuses from ship and mindlinks, so the temptation will still be there. I really don't know if I should switch to a 3 link covert loki or go all out with both bonused armour and bonused skirmish links on the same ship.
Its impossible to make a mobile 6 link hard to scan setup for i.e. roaming null but you can do 5 and probably even 6 link setups that are hard to scan for sitting in space boosting a PVE fleet, etc. - just need to use the right implants and one of the links has to be the sig reduction link.
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Jack Miton
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
2211
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Posted - 2013.08.02 14:41:00 -
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command ships are looking sweet hot :) nice that we'll actually have something to fly after T3s get ruined. |

WInter Borne
Cold Station 12 Surely You're Joking
79
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Posted - 2013.08.02 16:46:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:command ships are looking sweet hot :) nice that we'll actually have something to fly after T3s get ruined. Yup...we can transition for T3 blobs to command ship blobs.
It will be glorious! |

Angsty Teenager
Broski North Black Legion.
173
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Posted - 2013.08.02 16:51:00 -
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>that face when I planned for all of this and it literally doesn't impact me (at least in wormholes) at all 
also
>that face when people are still using lokis in cap escalations |

Soon Shin
Caucasian Culture Club Transmission Lost
227
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Posted - 2013.08.02 19:15:00 -
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Sure the boost amount of warfare links got nerfed and the expected t3 boost nerfs.
But there are many beneficial things:
Capital Reps will now receive bonus from all defensive mind links.
Capital Reps all receive a 15% boost from local rep changes.
Navy mindlinks that boost 2 types of warfare links (YAY no more having to got out to hs to switch clones!)
Mindlinks supply increases and is much cheaper (good for miners who no longer have pay a billion for their mindlinks)
Command ships and T3s now boost multiple types of warfare links.
Field command ships get full t2 resists they deserve.
I have commandship 5 on many of my characters so, if T3 get nerfed to oblivion, I will know what to fly next. |

Robert Morningstar
Morningstar Excavations LTD Business Alliance of Manufacturers and Miners
5
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Posted - 2013.08.02 20:17:00 -
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Evangelina Nolen wrote:the local rep changes are the most intriguing. 15% boost also applies to Capital reppers & it sound's like boosts will affect cap modules too.
edit: every1 and their basset hound will be using Eos for cap escalations, regular pve and pvp.
agreed |

unimatrix0030
Viperfleet Inc. Transmission Lost
41
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Posted - 2013.08.02 21:50:00 -
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After these changes, will anyone even use t3's for command links? It sounds cheaper just to use a few extra chars in command ships... . And indeed, wormhole pvp doctrine will now switch to t2 commands ships if t3's ever get nerfed, many were already used(amarr versions comes to mind as often used) because of the similar stats... .
Will active tanking be an option in w-space with these changes? I hope so, we need more option anyway! |

Niezachwiany
State Writ
1
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Posted - 2013.08.03 19:50:00 -
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nvm. And what about capital remote rep/shield transp? |

chris elliot
EG CORP Mass Overload
221
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Posted - 2013.08.04 18:16:00 -
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Evangelina Nolen wrote:
edit: every1 and their basset hound will be using Eos for cap escalations, regular pve and pvp.
Having been locked in the dungeon of work for the past few weeks I haven't been able to fiddle with them much at all. Mind explaining why this will be the case? |

Mizhir
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
28697
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Posted - 2013.08.04 18:21:00 -
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chris elliot wrote:Evangelina Nolen wrote:
edit: every1 and their basset hound will be using Eos for cap escalations, regular pve and pvp.
Having been locked in the dungeon of work for the past few weeks I haven't been able to fiddle with them much at all. Mind explaining why this will be the case?
They will have bonus for both Armour and Skirmish links. So they will just replace the loki/legion booster We will never forget you Saede!
I bet you dont see things like this so often in EVE |

Freddie Merrcury
Axiom Inc.
6
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Posted - 2013.08.04 18:26:00 -
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Angsty Teenager wrote:>that face when I planned for all of this and it literally doesn't impact me (at least in wormholes) at all  also >that face when people are still using lokis in cap escalations Quell your meme arrows. I been kicked out of better homes than this. |

Ellendras Silver
No Self Esteem ShAdOw PoLiTiCs
76
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Posted - 2013.08.04 19:41:00 -
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i think its a very good change and i welcome it. as i predicted T3s will still be useful in some situations but command ship is better as it should be |
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