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Belt Bitch Hedion University Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.08.03 17:12:00 - [1] - Quote Hi I currently have 24 accounts running mining ops around 15 hours per day unless I have church and I was wondering what the greatest scale for maximizing yields and efficiency were. I make good profits currently but I am sure there is always more to be made so I will ask the experts. Currently 4 chars can be orca and all chars are exhumers V capable. I may also get into manufacture for profit with all the no cost minerals I mine but right now just sell for profit. I play this for fun and as I add more account to make even more isk and improve play I am sure someone else has done this better but I could not find a guide yet. also any way to stop harassers from the belt is good tip too sometime i have to move and makes very bad game time for me. Thanks for help!
Tachypnea Trinion Enterprises 0	Posted - 2013.08.03 19:27:00 - [2] - Quote Good troll attempt, im sure you will get lots of bites. But to make this post useful and to make sure I don't get ISD'd, ill just say minerals you mine are not free.
Victoria Sin Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 422	Posted - 2013.08.03 19:40:00 - [3] - Quote Go and see a doctor. Seriously, you might be deficient in serotonin; like those guys who enter competitions with their enormous pumpkins.
Belt Bitch Hedion University Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.08.03 20:11:00 - [4] - Quote Victoria Sin wrote: Go and see a doctor. Seriously, you might be deficient in serotonin; like those guys who enter competitions with their enormous pumpkins. I do not understand this serotonin stuff. I am asking how to better maximize my mining company and business not go see a doctor for nothing wrong. cmon there is no other help for large scale mining for single player??
MicDeath Titan Titans Guild Solitude Coalition 18	Posted - 2013.08.03 22:18:00 - [5] - Quote Are you mining ICE or Ore?
Rengerel en Distel 1764	Posted - 2013.08.03 23:06:00 - [6] - Quote LOUD NOISES! With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 3797	Posted - 2013.08.03 23:30:00 - [7] - Quote LOOK! This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody. "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon
Invictra Atreides Toward the Terra 133	Posted - 2013.08.04 03:28:00 - [8] - Quote I know how to finish EVE in hard mode, but I don't think you can defeat the end BOSS with miners alone. Blog \|-áTutorials \| Youtube "I donGÇÖt know everything, I just know what I know."

ISD Cura Ursus ISD Community Communications Liaisons 176	Posted - 2013.08.04 14:37:00 - [9] - Quote Thread cleaned up. Please do not troll, even if you think it is a troll you are trolling. :) ISD Cura Ursus Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department

Markus Navarro Osmon Integrated Robotics 66	Posted - 2013.08.04 16:04:00 - [10] - Quote Once you go over 3-4 accounts with a fully maxed orca, you start losing efficiency due to roid not lastinh long/hauling/moving between system. Best way to reduce those would be to be in a secure Nullsec system with good info channels. Bigger roids, less travelling/exploding roids. If you want to stay in Hi-sec be warned that 24 accounts will munch a belt extremely fast, and you probably will go crazy with the logistics of moving everyone around. I tried with 10 and it became too much, i can't fathom with 24 I sell drones and drones accessories.

Vincent Athena V.I.C.E. Aegis Solaris 2073	Posted - 2013.08.05 16:15:00 - [11] - Quote The only reason to manufacture and sell stuff is so you can get more isk than selling the minerals. That is actually easy to do: Get your production skills up so your waste is zero Research your blueprints so their waste is low Sell someplace that sees alot of traffic, but is not a trade hub. With that many pilots and minerals you could easily make virtually every T1 item in the game and create your own trade hub. If you do that I recommend doing it in a region that has no major trade hub now. Other notes: With that many orcas there is no need for all the pilots to be in the same solar system. Consider spreading out. Consider having a freighter pilot. The freighter can pick stuff up from an orca allowing it to stay in the belt providing boosts. Fro harassment: The best thing to do is leave, go someplace else. Do it right away. If you see them in local when you log in, do not even go to a belt in that system, undock and jump out to someplace else. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/
Arcosian Arco's Advanced Industries 122	Posted - 2013.08.05 16:54:00 - [12] - Quote Belt * wrote: Hi I currently have 24 accounts running mining ops around 15 hours per day unless I have church and I was wondering what the greatest scale for maximizing yields and efficiency were. I make good profits currently but I am sure there is always more to be made so I will ask the experts. Currently 4 chars can be orca and all chars are exhumers V capable. I may also get into manufacture for profit with all the no cost minerals I mine but right now just sell for profit. I play this for fun and as I add more account to make even more isk and improve play I am sure someone else has done this better but I could not find a guide yet. also any way to stop harassers from the belt is good tip too sometime i have to move and makes very bad game time for me. Thanks for help! Minerals you mine aren't free and if you build stuff with that mentality you could end up losing isk rather than just selling the minerals outright. And running 24 accounts that only mine is about the most inefficient way to make isk there is. The reason for this is that mining doesn't scale well (at all) with increasing net wealth so adding more accounts won't get you anymore isk when you factor in the cost for PLEX each month. For example lets assume you make 10mil/hr/account mining and run 24 accounts that means you're making 240mil/hr which sounds great but in reality you're still only making 10mil/hr/account. Whereas running L4s making 20mil/hr/account would mean you could downsize to 12 accounts and end up with alot more isk at the end of each month since you would need 12 fewer PLEX for the same amount of work or you could keep running 24 accounts but only need to grind for 7 hours instead of 15. But the same thing can be said for mission running as no matter how many accounts you multibox with you will be stuck at about 20mil/hr/account so having 24 accounts multiboxing missions isn't near as efficient as an experienced trader can do with 1-2 accounts. Because trading scales with increasing wealth.
Eliram Kahoudi Big Red Rabbits 21	Posted - 2013.08.05 21:23:00 - [13] - Quote arcosian had a good point and i think its the best here. but to answer your question. 1 maxed orca pilot in space full time, 1 freighter pilot hauling to the station. Other 23 mining. You will still clear belts super fast, so you will need a multi system loop. But thats the most efficient. Without doing the math you might need 2 freighter pilots. The orca pilot as long as he has the wing skills will be able to boost everyone so it only makes sense to have 1. The freighter pilots to haul everything since you want your orca outside all the time. gl not my cup of tea but doing what you like is the best way to enjoy this game.
P3po Perkone Caldari State 27	Posted - 2013.08.06 10:09:00 - [14] - Quote Or you can get 3 shooters, go to 0.0 and do 240 mil/hour easily :D Mining with tons of pilots is good when you don't really care about getting best ISK/hour but you only look on the total ISK that you get left at the end of month or so. If you mine in 0.0, it takes around 15 hours to mine for plex, rest of the mine is your pure profit. And the profit is bigger when it is mined by 20 accounts then 5 accounts.
Andrew Indy Four Pillar Production Headshot Gaming 15	Posted - 2013.08.08 08:32:00 - [15] - Quote Or just get 12 accounts and ISO box a nightmare fleet, making 1bil an hour. I hate those people, damn you and your crazy isk making power. Shacks fist.
William Walker House Aratus Fatal Ascension 205	Posted - 2013.08.08 14:57:00 - [16] - Quote I'll have to agree with Markus Navarro, get into nullsec. You will have less harassment on average, you can mine a lot more, and make a lot more profits. We are basically carebears you know. pâ+(GîÆGêçGîÆ)n+ë pü+(pé£GêçpÇü-¦)pü+ (GùòGÇ+GùòG£+)
Sabriz Adoudel Oppan Ganknam Style 626	Posted - 2013.08.09 11:24:00 - [17] - Quote Make sure to keep all of your ships within a 5km radius of each other. Convo me in-game if you want more tips. An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front.


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