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Flowstone
Forced Penetration Here Be Dragons
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Posted - 2013.08.03 18:43:00 -
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ATX pulled in a lot of the CCP employees and gave them face time that I think they deserve, which I havn't seen in this Alliance tournament. It's been some fairly good commentators on the matches, with Frank Mir clone Bachanallian, yet I find the lack of some of the talented female CCP employeees lacking. For example I found CCP_Punkturis's personality, accent, and input very positive to the previous alliance tournament presentation. Just wondering if we will see more of a diverse CCP lineup on the public scene in the future? |
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
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Posted - 2013.08.03 19:26:00 -
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Flowstone wrote:ATX pulled in a lot of the CCP employees and gave them face time that I think they deserve, which I havn't seen in this Alliance tournament. It's been some fairly good commentators on the matches, with Frank Mir clone Bachanallian, yet I find the lack of some of the talented female CCP employeees lacking. For example I found CCP_Punkturis's personality, accent, and input very positive to the previous alliance tournament presentation. Just wondering if we will see more of a diverse CCP lineup on the public scene in the future?
Punkturis is on maternity leave, afaik. So, you know, bit unfair to say "Leave your kid behind and come in and talk about spaceships" |
Webb Mordock
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.03 19:28:00 -
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They typically only have those people in the final day. I'm sure the last day will see an interview with Hilmar, some preview videos of things to come, behind the scenes videos, etc. The last day is 30% eve tournament 70% eve advertisement (which isn't a bad thing, really). |
Flowstone
Forced Penetration Here Be Dragons
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Posted - 2013.08.03 19:30:00 -
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Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:Flowstone wrote:ATX pulled in a lot of the CCP employees and gave them face time that I think they deserve, which I havn't seen in this Alliance tournament. It's been some fairly good commentators on the matches, with Frank Mir clone Bachanallian, yet I find the lack of some of the talented female CCP employeees lacking. For example I found CCP_Punkturis's personality, accent, and input very positive to the previous alliance tournament presentation. Just wondering if we will see more of a diverse CCP lineup on the public scene in the future? Punkturis is on maternity leave, afaik. So, you know, bit unfair to say "Leave your kid behind and come in and talk about spaceships"
While that may be true, I'm sure she's not the only female in CCP and it would be really cool fore everybody if more people got some facetime on public broadcast. |
IamBeastx
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
105
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Posted - 2013.08.03 19:45:00 -
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Only if they know what there talking about, outside of that it don't matter the gender. All my life i wanted to be someone, now i know i should have been more specific. |
Hehaw Jimbojohnson
Frontier Explorer's League Sadistica Alliance
63
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Posted - 2013.08.03 21:00:00 -
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Be careful what you ask for. They might decide to put Mintchip on, and that wouldn't be good for viewer retention. |
Rengas
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
212
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Posted - 2013.08.03 22:51:00 -
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Hehaw Jimbojohnson wrote:Be careful what you ask for. They might decide to put Mintchip on, and that wouldn't be good for viewer retention. Speak for yourself.
I'll watch mintchip over sweaty men any day. |
Literally Space Moses
Perkone Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.08.03 23:00:00 -
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Flowstone wrote:Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:Flowstone wrote:ATX pulled in a lot of the CCP employees and gave them face time that I think they deserve, which I havn't seen in this Alliance tournament. It's been some fairly good commentators on the matches, with Frank Mir clone Bachanallian, yet I find the lack of some of the talented female CCP employeees lacking. For example I found CCP_Punkturis's personality, accent, and input very positive to the previous alliance tournament presentation. Just wondering if we will see more of a diverse CCP lineup on the public scene in the future? Punkturis is on maternity leave, afaik. So, you know, bit unfair to say "Leave your kid behind and come in and talk about spaceships" While that may be true, I'm sure she's not the only female in CCP and it would be really cool fore everybody if more people got some facetime on public broadcast.
It's a volunteer job, all CCP employees working there are doing so because they volunteered. I'm sure if some of the female staff asked to be on camera for the AT, CCP would be happy to oblige them, but them forcing women to come in and work on weekends for the sake of diversity strikes me as wrong. |
Alphea Abbra
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
366
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Posted - 2013.08.03 23:05:00 -
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Rengas wrote:Hehaw Jimbojohnson wrote:Be careful what you ask for. They might decide to put Mintchip on, and that wouldn't be good for viewer retention. Speak for yourself. I'll watch mintchip over sweaty men any day. Yeah, but what if she tries to say something? Let her stay whereever she is currently so that we don't have to bother with anything.
IamBeastx makes an excellent point. Read that. |
Kithrus
Deus Fides Empire Curatores Veritatis Alliance
282
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Posted - 2013.08.03 23:12:00 -
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I really am running out of patients for such feminism. How about we get people who want to/have the talent to do the job yes? I find filling some arbitrary ratio or race/gender/religion/sexual preference what have you entirely and mentally bull crap.
Baring about slippy slopes such quotas do no one not such good. You want diversity? Promote those who are in minority to step forward if thats what they want and then (and this is important) leave those who are doing their job well currently alone.
Ask yourself this:
If there was some magical world that existed where there was equal number of all represented would those currently representing CCP be doing a good job. If the answer is yes then leave them to that.
If Hon, or league of legions, smite, warcraft arena, starcraft, quake (what have you just pick one) had an entire lesbian female Muslim cast hosts would I be in my right to go to their show and demand some white straight male christian be added to their show?
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Sir Spottington
Merchants Trade Consortium The Last Chancers.
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Posted - 2013.08.03 23:17:00 -
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Kithrus wrote:
would I be in my right to go to their show and demand some white straight male christian be added to their show?
dont be silly, equality doesnt work that way.... |
Johnson 1044
Johnson Organic Produce
32
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Posted - 2013.08.04 01:59:00 -
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I would imagine that most woman would want nothing to do with being a public personality for this (or any) game due to a certain segment of the user base being misogynistic creepers. |
Soul-on-Ice
Task Force 20
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Posted - 2013.08.04 09:45:00 -
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ok....agreed i could go for a little eye candy.
then again, im pretty pissed off the transgender community wasnt represented. Come on Fozzie show it to us.
moar qq. Formerly Kohursr Mitthrassafis of Heretic Army - ATX Alliance Tournament-á (sold 2012) Formerly RueTiron of Caldari Militia-á (sold 2011) |
Bacchanalian
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
224
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Posted - 2013.08.04 10:19:00 -
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Flowstone wrote:ATX pulled in a lot of the CCP employees and gave them face time that I think they deserve, which I havn't seen in this Alliance tournament. It's been some fairly good commentators on the matches, with Frank Mir clone Bachanallian, yet I find the lack of some of the talented female CCP employeees lacking. For example I found CCP_Punkturis's personality, accent, and input very positive to the previous alliance tournament presentation. Just wondering if we will see more of a diverse CCP lineup on the public scene in the future?
CCP Sunset has been on in the past as well, but's quite pregnant at the moment. She was in the studio on the first day to say hi and wish us all luck. I'm sure she'll be back next year.
And Frank Mir? I love it, that one's new. I'll assure everyone that the resemblance is even stronger when I'm shirtless. Definitely. No doubt about it! |
Ap0ca1yp53
EFFECT.
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Posted - 2013.08.04 12:33:00 -
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While there is a lack of females it is because the last one they had to cover the Alliance Tournament caused lasting damage and was a life-like version of tricia takanawa. |
Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2013.08.04 14:20:00 -
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OP just watch russian stream where CCP Leeloo is commenting. It doesn't matter if you don't understand a single word of russian language, because obviously, quality of commenting is the last thing that you want from AT streams. -¥ |
Invisusira
The Rising Stars The Initiative.
182
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Posted - 2013.08.04 17:25:00 -
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Hehaw Jimbojohnson wrote:Be careful what you ask for. They might decide to put Mintchip on, and that wouldn't be good for viewer retention. oh god please no :( :( :( Core Skills | EVE Music | Internet Spaceship Killboard Link |
Willy Eckerslike
APOCALYPSE LEGION The Obsidian Front
5
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Posted - 2013.08.05 08:22:00 -
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Women commentators? Can you imagine what the Space-nerds will type in the live stream chat? They are immature enough in their comments against a full male crew!! |
Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions
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Posted - 2013.08.05 09:22:00 -
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Kithrus wrote:I really am running out of patients for such feminism. How about we get people who want to/have the talent to do the job yes? I find filling some arbitrary ratio or race/gender/religion/sexual preference what have you entirely and mentally bull crap.
Baring about slippy slopes such quotas do no one not such good. You want diversity? Promote those who are in minority to step forward if thats what they want and then (and this is important) leave those who are doing their job well currently alone.
Feminism is about equal opportunities and against sexism (discrimination by gender) and not about ratios or some bull crap. gender ratios are by definition sexist. Read up on what they actually say, you may find out it's exactly what you talked about. |
Alphea Abbra
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
379
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Posted - 2013.08.05 13:15:00 -
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Karak Terrel wrote:Kithrus wrote:I really am running out of patients for such feminism. How about we get people who want to/have the talent to do the job yes? I find filling some arbitrary ratio or race/gender/religion/sexual preference what have you entirely and mentally bull crap.
Baring about slippy slopes such quotas do no one not such good. You want diversity? Promote those who are in minority to step forward if thats what they want and then (and this is important) leave those who are doing their job well currently alone.
Feminism is about equal opportunities and against sexism (discrimination by gender) and not about ratios or some bull crap. gender ratios are by definition sexist. Read up on what they actually say, you may find out it's exactly what you talked about. You're right, by definition. But the majority of white knights (Check for instance the +theism movement) is not that. The gender ratios, the fixation on white middleclass women and female superiority is not what the original (And defining) feminism movements were about, but it is becoming the most visible face of "feminism" today - and especially so on the internet. |
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Seetesh
ENEBRIATED MINERS Ltd
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Posted - 2013.08.05 18:20:00 -
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Well she's pregnant and you should see her she's coming along nicely. But it is a stress being pregnant and she is now taking a back seat. But she will eventually be back. |
Greygal
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
162
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Posted - 2013.08.05 22:24:00 -
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Flowstone wrote:ATX pulled in a lot of the CCP employees and gave them face time that I think they deserve, which I havn't seen in this Alliance tournament. It's been some fairly good commentators on the matches, with Frank Mir clone Bachanallian, yet I find the lack of some of the talented female CCP employeees lacking. For example I found CCP_Punkturis's personality, accent, and input very positive to the previous alliance tournament presentation. Just wondering if we will see more of a diverse CCP lineup on the public scene in the future?
In my humble opinion, the commentators - CCP and players alike - need to be the best ones available and willing to do the job. Gender or any other aspect should not be part of the decision-making process.
As a female player, I was not offended at all by the lack of female representation in the commentator booth or on set at the table.
On the other hand, I do wish the commentators would stop referring to me as "he!" Not a big deal and it doesn't really matter whether they call me "he" or "she" in the big picture of it all, but still ... it's going to take months before everyone who knows me in game stops teasing me about this! What you do for yourself dies with you, what you do for others is immortal. |
Kithrus
Deus Fides Empire Curatores Veritatis Alliance
288
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Posted - 2013.08.06 11:49:00 -
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Alphea Abbra wrote:Karak Terrel wrote:Kithrus wrote:I really am running out of patients for such feminism. How about we get people who want to/have the talent to do the job yes? I find filling some arbitrary ratio or race/gender/religion/sexual preference what have you entirely and mentally bull crap.
Baring about slippy slopes such quotas do no one not such good. You want diversity? Promote those who are in minority to step forward if thats what they want and then (and this is important) leave those who are doing their job well currently alone.
Feminism is about equal opportunities and against sexism (discrimination by gender) and not about ratios or some bull crap. gender ratios are by definition sexist. Read up on what they actually say, you may find out it's exactly what you talked about. You're right, by definition. But the majority of white knights (Check for instance the +theism movement) is not that. The gender ratios, the fixation on white middleclass women and female superiority is not what the original (And defining) feminism movements were about, but it is becoming the most visible face of "feminism" today - and especially so on the internet.
Okay but ask yourself this:
How many ladies work at CCP, how many of them want to cast this event?
I doubt very much that CCP is filled with sexist bigots. |
Azurae
South West Trading
98
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Posted - 2013.08.06 16:05:00 -
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Flowstone wrote:Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:Flowstone wrote:ATX pulled in a lot of the CCP employees and gave them face time that I think they deserve, which I havn't seen in this Alliance tournament. It's been some fairly good commentators on the matches, with Frank Mir clone Bachanallian, yet I find the lack of some of the talented female CCP employeees lacking. For example I found CCP_Punkturis's personality, accent, and input very positive to the previous alliance tournament presentation. Just wondering if we will see more of a diverse CCP lineup on the public scene in the future? Punkturis is on maternity leave, afaik. So, you know, bit unfair to say "Leave your kid behind and come in and talk about spaceships" While that may be true, I'm sure she's not the only female in CCP and it would be really cool fore everybody if more people got some facetime on public broadcast.
i find you disturbin. did you ever think about that the women at CCP maybe were on vacation or didn't want to be in front of the camera? you think it's your place to FORCE them to leave their young newborn alone at home or force them in front of the camera even if they don't want to? |
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
474
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Posted - 2013.08.06 17:03:00 -
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I am curious to know if, and how many, girls were actual pilots in the tourney? |
Alphea Abbra
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
382
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Posted - 2013.08.06 18:34:00 -
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Kithrus wrote:Okay but ask yourself this:
How many ladies work at CCP, how many of them want to cast this event?
I doubt very much that CCP is filled with sexist bigots. I'm not sure how to answer your question. It doesn't seem to be related to the posts you quoted, and I am not sure I even understand it properly.
Furthermore, if taken at face value I have no way of knowing the answer, only a baseless guess-at-random. |
Gorgoth24
Sickology
37
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Posted - 2013.08.06 21:14:00 -
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While I wouldn't be opposed to female commentators I don't find the lack of them disturbing. I definitely enjoyed the commentators in this tournament far more then in any tournament previously, especially the Rote Kapelle guys that came out.
However, to be completely honest, I'm surprised Mintchip didn't make a showing |
Kearl
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
14
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Posted - 2013.08.06 23:35:00 -
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Nothing against CCP Sunset and I am sure she's great at her job. I always felt she was tense and not comfortable nor fluid when on the air. I enjoyed the commentary this year minus the anti gay jabs that is and Shadoo fake hating on PL. |
Greygal
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
163
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Posted - 2013.08.07 06:44:00 -
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RavenPaine wrote:I am curious to know if, and how many, girls were actual pilots in the tourney?
We had three females on our team (Agony Empire), including myself. What you do for yourself dies with you, what you do for others is immortal. |
Robert Morningstar
Morningstar Excavations LTD Business Alliance of Manufacturers and Miners
6
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:01:00 -
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Hehaw Jimbojohnson wrote:Be careful what you ask for. They might decide to put Mintchip on, and that wouldn't be good for viewer retention.
what is wrong with mintchip?
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Kithrus
Deus Fides Empire Curatores Veritatis Alliance
289
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:19:00 -
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Alphea Abbra wrote:Kithrus wrote:Okay but ask yourself this:
How many ladies work at CCP, how many of them want to cast this event?
I doubt very much that CCP is filled with sexist bigots. I'm not sure how to answer your question. It doesn't seem to be related to the posts you quoted, and I am not sure I even understand it properly. Furthermore, if taken at face value I have no way of knowing the answer, only a baseless guess-at-random.
Cop out reply
How many ladies do you think work at CCP? How many do you think WANT to cast or have the ability?
what my question boils down to is realistically how many people who are female want to/can do that job? Maybe just mayby they picked the best person for the job hmmm? In stead of say filling out some arbitrary quota.
I just want a good product I frankly don't care who makes it. |
Radius Prime
Tax Evading Ass.
132
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Posted - 2013.08.09 23:44:00 -
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Could use some blacks, some gays, some Native Americans & some cross dressers while we are at it.. also I believe Soundwave was the only European on there, that's not well representative.
I wonder why certain people feel a need to always make problems where there are none. If there is a woman interested in doing this I am sure she will enroll for an interview. Don't push things like you are doing now, how many qualified hardcore playing women are around and willing to do this?
Forced change is unhappy change.. Eve is a game and thus should be a happy, relaxing activity.. Leave your civil rights book at home and use it for more important issues.. Reopen the EVE gate so we can invade Serenity. Goons can go first. |
Rhatar Khurin
United Earth Directorate
171
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Posted - 2013.10.10 20:54:00 -
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They should get the female who did the talking in the Clarion call Rooks and kings videos to do some commentating. That would be great! |
Faife
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
130
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Posted - 2013.10.11 02:20:00 -
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Rhatar Khurin wrote:They should get the female who did the talking in the Clarion call Rooks and kings videos to do some commentating. That would be great!
the one who limply reads the scripts they give her and doesn't care about your ****** spaceship game?
that's a great idea |
Luis Alejandro Flores
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:20:00 -
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Whoever you bring in, make sure they replace Fozzie. I get enough lisping from my Spanish friends. |
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