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Braghee
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Posted - 2005.12.20 10:22:00 -
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I made a trial account and am seriously thinking about switching from WOW to EVE, and im seriously thinking of buying it.
I really like its complexity eventhough i dont quite understand most of the stuff yet, i also noticed that the game doesnt addict you straight away. I would like to know at what point did you flip and got totally hooked and what was the thing that triggered it. I would also like to know about the endgame content (thats what is making me sick in WOW), and what keeps you guys playing in general.
thanks 
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Darwinia
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Posted - 2005.12.20 10:34:00 -
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EVE doesn't hook you right away (if anything the complexity a new player encounters is repulsive to some players). EVE grows on you. It ensares you with its limitles options of play and ease of advancing. You will find that many players get burned out (as it happens with all the other MMOs), but unlike the other MMOs out there, EVE has a spectacular returning rate.. there is always something to do and not being forced to grind puts it above everything else.
Also there is no 'high-end' content as such.. a month old player can effectevly help 2 years+ players in just about any situation, as long he knows what he's doing. In WOW doing high level raids with a level 10 char is impossible.
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Tanya Kovacs
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Posted - 2005.12.20 10:39:00 -
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Edited by: Tanya Kovacs on 20/12/2005 10:40:14
There are no levels in EVE so there is no "endgame". EVE is made for long run (read: years of playing). After 6 month (afaik lvl60 <= 6 month in wow) you will be a decent gamer, but you can still advance furthermore. For me, EVE is focussed on PvP. Missions are fun, but after a while nearly all of them will become a bit boring (for a fulltime-missionrunner), so I bet in the long run (read: some years! not 6month as in wow) alot will be/become PvPers. EVE is freedom - you can nearly anything do what you want.
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Binary Mind
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Posted - 2005.12.20 11:36:00 -
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take care... eve won't release you after a time
sometimes I just start eve to look at the graphics without doing anything else :D
but yes, I guess the main reason it's so addictive is that there's nothing you can't do, no rules(except those from the devs and gms), no limits.
And when you think you know everything, you'll learn something new.
another thing is that if you lose a ship here it's really lost. In any other MMO I know you just stand up with the same "setup", perhaps a bit damaged and continue. Just the will to kill and kill and KILLLLLLL the player who killed you can keep you playing for hours.. RAWRRRRRR.
now buy the freaking game and gimme all your money
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Tony Fats
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Posted - 2005.12.20 11:45:00 -
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The freedom and openness is what hooks me. I'm not tied down to a storyline or a level restriction, I don't need to slaughter level 57 ewoks to advance, advancing happens whether I'm there or not, learning is realistic, it never ends, very easy to learn the basics but takes a long time to be a master at anything. Game evolves. You start out doing one thing, getting very good at it, then switch to something else that catches your interest, the skill set that helps with one profession becomes useful in another. The electronics 5 you trained to help you fit 3 mining lasers now lets you fit 5 railguns, the nav5 you took to help you do courier missions faster now helps you keep optimal range for your guns, everything becomes interdependent.
The only part of the game I really hate is the two tier learning skills. Spending a week and a half getting the learning skills up was bad enough, but spending 2 months getting the advanced ones can drive you insane.
Yes, you get the time back, but its still 2 months of your RL time wasted.
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Braghee
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Posted - 2005.12.20 12:12:00 -
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Oh btw, id really like to know if the pvp combat is at least a bit skill dependant, cause i couldnt make much of the pve combat i encountered (set orbit at cca optimal weapon range, click and wait), can a player with lets say same ship and equipment as his opponent but a bit less trained skills win in a duel?
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Tanya Kovacs
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Posted - 2005.12.20 12:19:00 -
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Edited by: Tanya Kovacs on 20/12/2005 12:20:06
PvE isn't that boring. You will encounter very hard missions later.
About PvP: I think PvP consists of skillpoints, knowledge, equipment and luck. Sometimes your skillpoints will save you, sometimes your knowledge, sometimes your equipment (not teh uber - you just have to know the weakness of any equipment or setup! Another very good point at EVE), sometimes it's just luck and sometimes you have to die.
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Kinran
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Posted - 2005.12.20 14:16:00 -
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Edited by: Kinran on 20/12/2005 14:17:42
 Originally by: Braghee
I made a trial account and am seriously thinking about switching from WOW to EVE, and im seriously thinking of buying it.
I really like its complexity eventhough i dont quite understand most of the stuff yet, i also noticed that the game doesnt addict you straight away. I would like to know at what point did you flip and got totally hooked and what was the thing that triggered it. I would also like to know about the endgame content (thats what is making me sick in WOW), and what keeps you guys playing in general.
thanks
Mmmmmmmm, I love hearing new players say that. EVE is just a game I love playing, and never get tired of hearing that new players also get addicted and enjoy playing it as well ;D. Not something you get hooked on immediately, as some of the others have also said, but definitely something that can get addicting with the limitless possibilities that exist within it. I also enjoy watching the game change with each expansion that is deployed..... Sides, you've gotta love free expansions.
:)
/Kinran
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halic
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Posted - 2005.12.20 14:20:00 -
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i think it is addictive to many cause of its non linear game play, and it has a great community. you can get help full adivice from player pirates alliances and freelancers, were all in the same boat. been playin since beta7 off and on iv taken a year break come back and its just as exciting i love the complexity of it allways something to do or talk about.
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Lillith Blackheart
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Posted - 2005.12.20 14:23:00 -
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The same thing that hooks me about Eve is the same thing that hooks me in every RPG that Bethesda Softworks has ever made. (May not sound like much, CCP, but being compared, by me, to Bethesda Softworks is the utmost compliment I can give to an RPG/MMORPG developer. Second only to comparing your lead designer to Sid Meier. ;) )
I can just go ahead and do whatever I want, and the game is so very deep and complex that I will constantly learn something new, no matter how long I play it.
The fact that all the expansions are "free" (meaning: Paid for by my subscription fee and not needing a seperate purchase) is a serious bonus that just makes it all the stronger.
I've actually been thinking of cancelling my CoV subscription since I came back here and started playing again. . . And to think, I'd managed to seperate myself from it so long ago. . . :| I started over with a new character and have been going as a bounty hunter-trader, and now I just can't stop. :(
Even CS:S has had trouble pulling me away. That never happens. 
Me.
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Snooppari
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Posted - 2005.12.20 14:52:00 -
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I have been playing almost a year.. (the 24th is my char's birthday=)
After 5 months I almost quit, 'cos I lost about 10 ships (7 battlecruisers and 3 bs's).. I had almost no isk, 1 BS (battlecruiser) and had to make a long run with lvl 3 missons to have the 100m back
After that I runned missions, then changed corp and now I'm full time PvP:er.. I like the exsitement, adrealine so on 
The best thing is that when I attack ppl, I don't know does he/she have friends in the next system or what fitting/setup the ship has..
Now that I've played a year, I don't see myself quitting EvE.. It's the best game I've ever played
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Cukogra
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Posted - 2005.12.20 17:25:00 -
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Openess. I don't like to have to follow a story line to progress (either financially or otherwise). But the option is there. The fact that it's one big server is a plus as well. Complexity is a huuuuge plus. When I saw everything EVE offered from the get go, I couldn't wait to dig further. Also, the fact that you cannot power level is great. I don't feel like I have to grind more. You just sit back and accept that it's 20 some days till you get a new "level." Also, no two characters are the same... love it. I hate having 9 "iconic" professiosn (ahem, sorry still bitter about it). Here you have a person, with skills to choose from, be what you want when you want (with time given of course).
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Corunna ElMan
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Posted - 2005.12.20 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Cukogra
Also, the fact that you cannot power level is great. I don't feel like I have to grind more.
I think that really nails it IMO. Too many other games are full of people who race to the top and then whine because they didn't enjoy the journey and now they are at the "end".
EVE is open-ended and it's designed in such a way that the instant gratification crowd and those with short attention spans are weeded out early and don't stick around to trouble us. I also like the fact that all users share one single persistent universe rather than being sharded onto separate servers.
EVE is a game where you can dream big. If you want to be the warlord of your own little slice of frontier space, it's possible - it may take a while but it can and often does happen.
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Kafara
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Posted - 2005.12.20 18:06:00 -
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I first tried Eve about a month ago when a friend suggested I try it instead of WoW. After about a day I cancelled my WoW account for this instead. What I like about this is that there are so many different things to do and paths you could go down, whereas with WoW it was quite linear most of the time.
I also like the way they have no levels in this game, and everyone plays on the same server, it makes it all seem much more real thans having levels and experiance points.
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Aaronus
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Posted - 2005.12.20 18:43:00 -
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The forums
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Rasitiln
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Posted - 2005.12.20 19:50:00 -
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Pirating
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Charlie3
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Posted - 2005.12.20 20:24:00 -
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I cancelled a subscription to WWII Online a few months back after an EVE trial that a friend gave me.
It's true that I wasn't hooked right away. But by the time the 14-day trial was on Eve was like a ***** pipe.
In WWII Online, everybody had the same set of equipment to use. Eve is more like real life. You actually evolve your own character over time and I really like that. Makes us all individuals in a way.
Great people too. Last night I bought a bpc off escrow not realizing that it was in deep deep deep 0.0 space. Flew all the way out there and couldn't dock. Got podded by somebody defending the base. Calmly told him how I was a stupid noob and told him how I ended up so far away from home. He gave me two mil isk and pk'd back home. Then I eve mailed the guy who made the escrow and you know what? He gave me the million isk I paid for the bpc and put a free one up in secure space for my troubles....
Great people make this game addicting too.
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Mayze
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Posted - 2005.12.20 21:05:00 -
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The reason i play .. eve is different. I played 3 other mmo's in the past .. neocron, anarchy online, and wow. Eve is definately unique. The community is great, and its definately a change of pace.
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Rutan Jones
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Posted - 2005.12.20 21:05:00 -
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I quit WOW to come here and have to say I'm enjoying the change of pace. I tried to snag two friends of mine into EVE, but after a few days, they quit playing the trial account and went back to WOW. It was too slow for them and unfortunately I think WOW leaves many with a sense of "required" instant gratification and trying something that progresses your character at a slower pace or out of your direct control, leaves many, at least my two friends, with a feeling that there's nothing else to do other than set the skill you want to level up...and then collect money via missions and mining.
I've been playing solid for about 1 1/2 weeks now..and I tried to get across to them that you don't have to get a singular skill up to V immediately, quite frankly you can't...explaining that they should grab other skills and get them up to two or three in the meantime would be helpful and fun. Well, no progress unfortunately and they deep six'd there interest in EVE. For me, while I loved WOW and what it brought for the year I played...the long term play and depth is where EVE slaughters it. WOW gets extremely boring once you hit 60 and run the same raids over and over and over....and..and...OVER. I think they'll probably give EVE another try if I keep nudging them.
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