Honestly I hope this fails. I prefer easy pvp targets that don't shoot back when I wardec people. I know Culo can teach these things, so I hope he doesn't find students on any large scale. Please delete post.

Looking at your stats - stick to the scamming and stay clear of venturing into pvp related threads.

Everyone knows I don't scam. Ask the op.

Just an error on the website: Webs are affected by stacking penalties.

The formula is as follows:

Speed = Base Speed x (1-FirstWebSpeedFactor) x (1-0.87xSecondWebSpeedFactor) x (1-0.57xThirdWebSpeedFactor)

This is why webifier drones suck. Also, I do not know whether the 'first web' is the one with the highest slowdown factor or the first one applied - if the latter, you can probably use web drones to undermine Vindicator/Kronos webs in some situations.


Data to prove this:

- Experimentally tested, 1 tech 2 web drops speed by 60%, two drops speed by ~80% (should be 81% by my formula), three don't do much more at all
- Also can be tested in that mission where you get hit by two 90% web drones, your speed is definitely not 1% of base.

Everybody loves alt posting.

Why are you posting in pvp related thread as a scammer with a terrible pvp record ?

Your opinion in this thread counts, why ?

I just wanted to point out the damage types you listed for the sentry drones is incorrect, other than that its a start.

bumping with a legion kill, sadly we didn't get his nado friend.

we put this poor Vigilant out of it's misery..

You realise that posting PvP battles would interest people more? Instead of posting a kill report that states the top damage was npc mission ships when it was 5v1? If you want a bad name and having to rely on group pirating (which makes nothing) for the rest of your time on eve - join this corp.

[Edit] Actually I wouldn't go as far as to say your pirates, your a griefer corp which anyone can see from your killboard. New players joining griefing corps looks good to start off with, until the downfall when everyone in game knows who you are.

You realise that posting PvP battles would interest people more? Instead of posting a kill report that states the top damage was npc mission ships when it was 5v1? If you want a bad name and having to rely on group pirating (which makes nothing) for the rest of your time on eve - join this corp.

[Edit] Actually I wouldn't go as far as to say your pirates, your a griefer corp which anyone can see from your killboard. New players joining griefing corps looks good to start off with, until the downfall when everyone in game knows who you are.

So you tell us his group refused to touch you ?

Watching over, but all you guys do is stay in high sec whenever I use locators. As soon as a good corp / alli does wardec you we know what will happen... again...

You realise that posting PvP battles would interest people more? Instead of posting a kill report that states the top damage was npc mission ships when it was 5v1? If you want a bad name and having to rely on group pirating (which makes nothing) for the rest of your time on eve - join this corp.

[Edit] Actually I wouldn't go as far as to say your pirates, your a griefer corp which anyone can see from your killboard. New players joining griefing corps looks good to start off with, until the downfall when everyone in game knows who you are.

You realise that posting PvP battles would interest people more? Instead of posting a kill report that states the top damage was npc mission ships when it was 5v1? If you want a bad name and having to rely on group pirating (which makes nothing) for the rest of your time on eve - join this corp.

[Edit] Actually I wouldn't go as far as to say your pirates, your a griefer corp which anyone can see from your killboard. New players joining griefing corps looks good to start off with, until the downfall when everyone in game knows who you are.

So for posting the truth I'm all of a sudden talking smack? lol If your a new player the last thing you want to do is to get a bad name from the start simple as. Eve players never forget, you clearly know the truth and like the idea... like a lot of new players until things come full circle and the main people in the corp go their own ways...

As stated already; if you want to have to rely on group kills only and being in a pirate corp - staying in high sec for the rest of your eve time - this corp is for you. That's promotion for you and the truth, not talking smack.

wow... is that dude still complaining over his loss.

Lets see if he still whines in a year.

LOL you obviously didn't read the posts, nothing said about 'The Bootcamp' here is about losses, I'm pointing out the truth. More likely we'll see how these people do in a few months / as soon as some big alliances bite back.... will be the normal story if they're taught by you Kane they'll stay in high sec forever and ***** foot around trying to suck up to others, and keep swapping between corps as soon as it gets too hot.

All you do on the forums is suck up to anyone that looks to become hostile towards you and you've not even left high sec for years Kane, funny that. Also I thought you said 'The Bootcamp' has nothing to do with Somali, now you chirp in with comments that seem to state otherwise.

Myself and Stone is not involved in this Bootcamp. Stone had RL he had to take care of so that left Somali with two choices. Move or just close. They moved.

Where do I suck up? I don't need to suck up anywhere.

Swapping corps out removes and cycles my corp war history. People tend to fight back more when they see very few or no wars in your war history. And the last alliance that tried to bite back against me lost 9Bil. And these members greet me in local every time they see after all those losses. You lost 1 ship? And you bawl like your life was destroyed.

You are the reason we do what we do... You keep talking about highsec like it's a bad place. I see your doing well and gaining good standings with your highsec missions keeping yourself safe in a NPC corp. Because you know and fear the day you join a corp for i will be coming.

Atleast my entire pvp life before Highsec was low/0.0 I just like Highsec more because they got people like you. I see you tried faction war for less than a day. I gather you complain about that as well because you lost a ship prolly to an navy npc in highsec.

But lets keep trash talk out of this thread. It is here for a different reason and people are enjoying themselves.

There is no trash talk here Kane, just the truth. You will never even enter low sec ever again, I bet that much... but you still act like your amazing.

because you lost a ship prolly to an navy npc in highsec.

So for posting the truth I'm all of a sudden talking smack? lol If your a new player the last thing you want to do is to get a bad name from the start simple as. Eve players never forget, you clearly know the truth and like the idea... like a lot of new players until things come full circle and the main people in the corp go their own ways...

As stated already; if you want to have to rely on group kills only and being in a pirate corp - staying in high sec for the rest of your eve time - this corp is for you. That's promotion for you and the truth, not talking smack.

Two pay to win characters in this corp (one of which cannot post without abusing people), no show of merc skills. You state that you teach pvp yet no sign of any decent pvp battles, then try to state your not pvp... some confusion in your first post culo duro. The only way people will learn pvp properly is by joining RvB or a low sec decent pvp teaching corp (of which there are many). So yes my statement of you being a griefer corp still stands, anyone looking at the killboard will see it, I don't need to explain it here. Also why are people paying 50m a month to be in a gate camping corp?

I bet as soon as you get hit by a decent merc alli / corp you will disband. I also like the way you pick up tricks from Kane too with the butt munching of every merc corp on this board . Also still waiting to see the day that you guys enter low sec... I see your all still camping Jita trade routes tonight again.

Two pay to win characters in this corp (one of which cannot post without abusing people), no show of merc skills.

You state that you teach pvp yet no sign of any decent pvp battles, then try to state your not pvp... some confusion in your first post culo duro. The only way people will learn pvp properly is by joining RvB or a low sec decent pvp teaching corp (of which there are many).
So yes my statement of you being a griefer corp still stands, anyone looking at the killboard will see it, I don't need to explain it here.

Also why are people paying 50m a month to be in a gate camping corp?

I bet as soon as you get hit by a decent merc alli / corp you will disband.

I also like the way you pick up tricks from Kane too with the butt munching of every merc corp on this board .
Also still waiting to see the day that you guys enter low sec... I see your all still camping Jita trade routes tonight again.

i LOVE these kinda posts , keep them up

P.S Confirming we should all pay an eve subscription to post on the forums and not actually play the game like this guy

News flash for you Zemo, most of the guys have been playing shorter than you have, and done more with their time.

As stated it's called having friends, i don't think you're familiar with that word either, solely based on how you're all tough on the forum, and do everything you can to stalk/annoy Kane, and us. You never do anything about it though.
We're still waiting to see your elite pvp main come dec us btw.

Who started the whole stalking thing? Kane - that's who, he only ever stalks and abuses what he presumes to be new players. I was having a discussion with a member that had nothing to do with Kane (who I see has now left) but he took it on himself to act hard and sit in the same area as me for 7 days stating "I'm watching you", that's how pathetic Kane is and also he is the most egotistical player in this game. I have been in a fleet while in the same area as him on many occasions (oh your friends post is incorrect too) and he has never once tracked my fleet or who I am in fleets with, which is why I find him a bit of a joke.

You say that I am stalking and annoying you? Nope, not even trying to but I can do if you would like me to. You state both on your website and your alliance info that you are a PvP teaching corp, which would imply dealing with PvP other small groups not just ganking new players in mining boats and pve ships. Also it states on your site that you are a low sec pvp corp, no sign of that on your killboards. So you state that you will deal with a proper merc attack - with what you claim as 'friends'? 'Interesting'...

How did I start this?

I never shot at you nor was I at war with your corp. But you seem to want to focus on me.

It's hair and chest aint it? You know... jealousy makes you nasty.

On another note... It is you who follow me.. every time I dock in my HQ in Soba you come "hang" around. Not to mention follow me all the way from soba to osmon as I wait for war target... only to go into the next system and say Kane is in olo...

Why would I tract your fleets, i got no reason to while you're in a npc corp? You are safe and sound in an NPC corp... You're like that little hand bag dogs old ladies and girly men like so much. Alot of bark when behind the gates but once that gate opens you are nowhere to be seen.

there's more going on than you think.

You state both on your website and your alliance info that you are a PvP teaching corp, which would imply dealing with PvP other small groups not just ganking new players in mining boats and pve ships. Also it states on your site that you are a low sec pvp corp, no sign of that on your killboards.

I just love these adorable bastards

This thread is hilarious.

Bad connection in seemingly one of the least technologically developed countries on this planet has kept me from killing red flashies...

But I shall return soon!

Looks like they were having more fun when the war started, soon as they hit you, you run off to other mercs to protect you. Mercs will soon get bored of that even if you are paying them...

http://zkillboard.com/detail/32760946/
http://zkillboard.com/detail/32760954/
http://zkillboard.com/detail/32769070/

You think that a kill report with 91.7% of the dmg by another merc alliance makes you look good somehow? Looking great for all those potential customers right? lol.

You don't read very well do you?

Also Zemo, what happend to you being on the opposite side of ganks? or is it completely legit when you're not the one getting ******?

I'm not claiming to be a PvP / Merc corp tho mate, this is exactly what i said would happen if you look back at my first post on here. You keep on hitting easy targets people will notice. Don't get heated tho culo, I mean your not one for raging now are you? <3

These guys don't do banter well :) one of them rage mailed me - then stated he was going to block me - after I sent a clear banter message to another member. They keep hiding when I turn up on my main... weird that.

That's another thing mate, your guys seem to not know any forum rules, including yourself. Should get the trained up better, reading the rules is the first thing anyone does. Also Killmails? lol You can't post them here either (just incase you didn't read the forum rules). How do you plan to get kill mails when other mercs are doing all your dirty work?

Looks like they were having more fun when the war started, soon as they hit you, you run off to other mercs to protect you. Mercs will soon get bored of that even if you are paying them...

http://zkillboard.com/detail/32760946/
http://zkillboard.com/detail/32760954/
http://zkillboard.com/detail/32769070/

You think that a kill report with 91.7% of the dmg by another merc alliance makes you look good somehow? Looking great for all those potential customers right? lol.

I'm typing this on my phone which is annoying apologies for the typos

I gey

Would you mind explaining this quote from the shield vs armour page on your site;

"Generally if you want to fly a shield ship, you should take one you'd normally armor tank, just because you'll get way more dps out of it than on any ship that's meant to shield tank.."

The author favours armour and loathes missiles and then proceeds to give an example where the shield version of the same ship does higher damage (both turret fits) and for some reason it has longer optimal range and comparative buffers.

Perhaps it can be written as "Look at and use the bonuses that your ship gets, where there is no armour or shield mentioned look at the mid and low slot count and your base resists and use logic. There can be instances where it can be hilarious to take a comedy fit and see what happens"

http://i.imgur.com/eRwoaPI.jpg

Am I gonna have to choke a ***** for publicly defacing our mascot?

OMG... no... they defaced the Pony Man...

Nop, still going strong

Nop, still going strong

So far we've destroyed 39 Billion isk!

Why would you need a damage control if your shield tanking?

Some of the builds on the site are wrong, just thought I'd let you know.

The Drake build which states passive is an active tank build and not a passive tank build; it's not even good for pve.

Why would you need a damage control if your shield tanking?

Why would you need a damage control if your shield tanking?

Some of the builds on the site are wrong, just thought I'd let you know. The Drake build which states passive is an active tank build and not a passive tank build; it's not even good for pve. Why would you need a damage control if your shield tanking?

That right there says exactly how much you know.... Nothing.

^^ what is this, i don't even

The build is stated as PvE Passive build, yet does not even have any form of shield regen at all which means it's not exactly passive. Also passive = modules not active draining of the capacitor. The build stated as a good PvE build for Drake is rubbish, you can easily do level 4 missions with a correct true passive Drake, on culo's build you wouldn't even get away with soloing level 3 missions let alone anything else. Also the damage control is wrong in PvE situation because you will never ever even get the shield down to be armor tanking.

Shield cap drainers are not passive lol, two completely different skill paths between true passive and shield boosters. If your planning on using a damage control that would suggest you are prepared to tank past the shield which would happen with that build as there is no regen on the ship at all. Armor down on a drake = massive repair bill which is why people who use Drakes go for proper passive route.

In that case do link a proper passive pve fit drake, since i obviously don't know how to fit ships. :p
Zemo atleast read the bloody site before making claims.

I see you edited the build now finally to some sort of passive. It doesn't take much to look around for proper level 4 Drake PvE passive fits. Inv Field is not passive (not even skilled as passive - completely different skill route), you turn them on - they drain cap. There is a distinct difference between passive and active, your actively tanking res when using inv fields and a damage control.

The drake with level 5 Battlecruiser can get 70%-80% true passive shield res along side 200 hp/s passive shield regen (without compensation skills) which is why it is so powerful PvE for such a cheap ship. PvE you swap out for what res you need - it's completely different to PvP fitting and you would never ever go to armor tanking in a Drake.

Not surprising really that culo is clueless on skills and skill training differences seeing as though the character was bought and used by about 5 other people before him.

Last I looked Culo is running a training corp teaching new players how to operate in Eve. Zemo, may I have a copy of your resume?

Last I looked Culo is running a training corp teaching new players how to operate in Eve. Zemo, may I have a copy of your resume?

That's what I heard too, but apparently he doesn't know the difference between passive and active and knows diddly squat about PvE build or ship differences. The Drake even states on the recommended skill structure as a passive shield tank... something culo wouldn't know because he didn't even skill his character himself.

The main thing for builds is the skills to go with them - so I don't see the relevance of a pay to win character trying to promote builds on his site that are completely incorrect - I'm not the first to notice build problems here either. A lot of PvP people seem to think people do PvE to blow up their ship and armor tank Battleships lol.

Yes this character is a PvE character as stated about 100 times before - come out to low sec and you'll see some action; the only care bears are ones that think they are great ganking PvE and mining ships in high sec. Lets look at the latest Bootcamp killboard... oh it's back to mining ships and industrial ships again, what a surprise.

Putting the words killboard and PVE in the same sentence only fits into place in eve, a loss mail. To my knowledge Culo is advertising a PVP based corporation. Why would anyone care about a PVE ship?

Also why ask me to come to lowsec? I doubt your ship is bigger than mine....

The low sec comment was to culo, in case you haven't caught up yet he posted a supposed PvE ship build which made no sense at all and would never work for PvE for level 2 missions let alone level 4 missions. that's why the PvE comments for the last 2 pages.

Also his inability to understand ship differences and skill sets for what you are planning to do clearly shows he never even skilled his character himself (which we know his character has been sold like 6 times now). All he's doing by posting bad ship builds with lack of skill based knowledge is prove what he is.

PvP based corp that only targets mining ships and Industry ships, but wait those mining barges can fight back can't they?... as soon as he faced losing 2 ships to a proper merc corp he went running to 2 other mercs to defend him. That's how convincing his supposed 'PvP corp' is. They won't ever go to low sec, they are not a PvP corp either.

Do you realise how pathetic you make your little supposed PvP corp sound and look?

lol pointing out culo's builds are bad is nothing new, read through the thread - loads of people have noticed it and every time all he has done is edit the builds then go completely off topic as per always - trying to state that he was never wrong in the first place. The PvE build he posted was laughable which is why i pointed it out, the most used and highest rated Drake level 4 mission build is a completely passive shield tank seeing as tho that's what the ship is - it even states on the recommendations a passive tanking skill build. So yes he is clueless. All the brown nosers I see on here are the same 3 people constantly, who suddenly disappear when they realise culo was actually wrong.

Just the way he acts like he is a pro PvP trainer is a joke, killboards show different and the only carebears are people who can't fight low sec and are scared of losing ships in low sec. The only decent PvP (who actually fight PvP not P v Miner) are in low sec. Most decent mercs also reside in low sec.

As much as i'd attempt to reason with, i'm just going to put this here, since you obviously know what you're talking about.

and you say that I'm the troll? The only trolls here are you lot, you are all pathetic. As soon as your proven to be wrong you never admit it and always post stupid kid videos from YouTube to troll even more. If people actually read through the posts about the PvE build they will see that you have no understanding of ship differences and ship specifics. PvE ships are best as shield tanks because you never blow them up (or take damage past the shield), something you still can't work out with your Damage Control - which main use is for armor and hull damage...

I have one last question for you on the PvE subject, going by your first build do you think that someone is going to be doing Angel Extravaganza level 4 mission (5 rooms) with that build? The problem you don't see is most level 4 missions take an hour to complete, with 5 different rooms. Do you really think it is viable to use 2 inv fields on a low cap ship for an hour along side a module which was specifically made for armor tanks in short periods (why it's used on all pvp builds).

You try to mock me constantly but you still don't have the decency to state when you are wrong. Also your build would have never of even worked for level 2 missions because of the time and cap - which is exactly why I stated about the passive modules. There is more to PvE then you try to make out, you may have done PvE at level 1 but it's completely different from level 3 on and completely different to PvP where your bursting damage and cap.

Just got a notification saying you all declared war on us. This should be fun! Can't wait to see you guys out there! Good luck

Do you guys take referrals?

I want fights :(

The build is stated as PvE Passive build, yet does not even have any form of shield regen at all which means it's not exactly passive. Also passive = modules not active draining of the capacitor. The build stated as a good PvE build for Drake is rubbish, you can easily do level 4 missions with a correct true passive Drake, on culo's build you wouldn't even get away with soloing level 3 missions let alone anything else. Also the damage control is wrong in PvE situation because you will never ever even get the shield down to be armor tanking.

Shield cap drainers are not passive lol, two completely different skill paths between true passive and shield boosters. If your planning on using a damage control that would suggest you are prepared to tank past the shield which would happen with that build as there is no regen on the ship at all. Armor down on a drake = massive repair bill which is why people who use Drakes go for proper passive route.

Edit: nevermind, can see them now.

One person involved said trying to FC those guys was like herding mutant cat-hamsters....

I swear, I go on a short vacation, fracture my leg/ankle, and miss out on all the fun+tears.

n++[ 2013.11.14 07:31:20 ] Cailus > but cant play much, fractured my ankle and can barely sit at the pc
n++[ 2013.11.14 07:31:44 ] Cailus > have fun o7

Dude, I thought you guys fought. :(

n++[ 2013.11.14 07:31:20 ] Cailus > but cant play much, fractured my ankle and can barely sit at the pc
n++[ 2013.11.14 07:31:44 ] Cailus > have fun o7

Dude, I thought you guys fought. :(

Uhh, maybe look at the time and what I said to you. Trust me I'd enjoy removing you from that silly Fleet Scythe, although I know a trap when I see one :-)

Police Scythe is not frightened of your Ishtar or Exequror alt.

Once again we're at war with ***** and Peace.
It started great, and it just kept on doing stupid (for mercs anyway). (1234)
Day 2 went fairly quick, but we scooped an oracle. (i have no idea about the story behind that kill... yet)
Day 3 showed up with a couple more oracles (12) and pods (12).

You know, ***** and Peace isn't a threat to anyone but miners - therefore bragging about kills on them is like saying you managed to kill an inactive POS tower. Then again, you guys aren't much of a threat either. Last time we were up against Everyone vs. Everyone you hired Break-A-Wish to help you out.

If you mean at the time where 90% of the alliance could only use T1 cruisers properly, then yes.
I'm a rich guy, ofc i'll hire some of our friends to help out or get in a batphone if someone decs us whom are 'mercing'
As far as that goes i don't hope it was a contract, because we only ever saw you guys moving around in algogile.

However you guys seem to be very proud of what you do, so instead of doing professional forum smacking, you might want to make up for that war anyway where you didn't win.
Now thanks for the free bump.


As for ***** and Peace, yes they're not the best, and i love how the part you picked out is that it's only that, however when we're at war with 'merc' entities it felt like a good bump to put up.
On top of that you'll also see that in the same message i posted several other kills.

I wouldn't be talking bad about forum smacking if I were you, you're the absolute expert there (and few can really compete with you on this field!)

So, are you guys big and bad enough that you don't need help on your wars anymore? I always thought that it really looks bad for a "merc" organization to have allies when someone decs them.

I wouldn't be talking bad about forum smacking if I were you, you're the absolute expert there (and few can really compete with you on this field!)

So, are you guys big and bad enough that you don't need help on your wars anymore? I always thought that it really looks bad for a "merc" organization to have allies when someone decs them.

I wouldn't be talking bad about forum smacking if I were you, you're the absolute expert there (and few can really compete with you on this field!)

So, are you guys big and bad enough that you don't need help on your wars anymore? I always thought that it really looks bad for a "merc" organization to have allies when someone decs them.

0mez has a bad case of the npc-corpitis, combined with stupidaltitis this can be pretty lethal.

What makes you think Culo has to pay his friends for the pleasure of stomping on someones sand-castle for free?

D.



BUMP FOR EveryoneVersusEveryone.com, the place to be for people into PVP.

Just thought I'd point out how true this post is. Look at their current situation; get war dec from RvB for poco attack and culo starts crying on crime asking for everyone to defend him.

Usual story, one day he's moaning about people not leaving dock / leaving corp when he war decs them, yet the second they get a war dec he pays mercs to defend him.

Then goes on to cry "Look at my site, we're not a merc corp".

I think people need to wake-up and start looking at the facts, if people constantly dec them, culo will keep throwing money away to other mercs to do his dirty work while boasting on the forums about indy kills.

Free bump for you culo with the truth and you can't handle the truth!!!

Not posting on my main. Too scared I may demean myself or attract special attention. I realize it's an embarrassment to both myself and RvB when I consistently spew garbage, but like all cry babies I enjoy a good whine, especially when there's no come-back.

Hire these guys, they'll stimulate you in ways you've never imagined before.

That would be Culo's job

rawr bumping against forum rules YOU DIE NOW so saith the Ezwal rabble rabble

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