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trong
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Posted - 2005.12.20 17:22:00 -
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Edited by: trong on 20/12/2005 17:26:30
Edited by: trong on 20/12/2005 17:25:17
Currently i have a system with:
Radeon 7000 64mb vid card
256mb of sdram
P4B Asus motherboard
1.6ghrz intel cpu (unkown name exactly)
I plan to have:
X1600 256mb vid card with shader 3.0 and PCI x16
512 or 1gig of ddr2 ram
S939 MSI motherboard (can't remember which, but it supports 1x PCIe16)
the same processor.
DOes anyone have a similar system as the one i'm going to build, or can generally make a prediction as to the FPS in various scenarios. With my old setup i ran at about 2-4 fps with constant freezing during combat while getting upto 10 fps in station. What will i get now?
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Sirial Soulfly
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Posted - 2005.12.20 17:28:00 -
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Edited by: Sirial Soulfly on 20/12/2005 17:30:35
Edited by: Sirial Soulfly on 20/12/2005 17:29:29
Hardly any difference since EVE is extremely CPU dependant, seriously if you want to have a better EVE experience get one of the latest CPU's.
Edited: spelling :s, and more spelling sigh.
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CT BadIronTree
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Posted - 2005.12.20 17:29:00 -
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you procesor suck get a new one... and 1 gb ram is minimou get 2 GB
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Sam Bacon
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Posted - 2005.12.20 17:33:00 -
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I run EVE on a 3.6GHZ pentium4 560 with HT enabled, only 1 GB of ram though going to upgrade it to 3GB soon.
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Verone
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Posted - 2005.12.20 17:45:00 -
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My original system i used for eve was :
3.2Ghz P4 HT (Skt 478)
1024mb Corsair RAM (333mhz)
2x 200gb E-IDE Seagate Barracudas
MSI HT Ready Motherboard
256mb Nvidia GeforceFX 5600 AGP 8x (1280x1024 max, DVI to a 17" LCD flatpanel)
Now i'm running:
3.4 GHz P4 HT Extreme Edition (Skt 478) Overclocked to 3.8GHz
2048mb Corsair DDR2 (533mhz)
Brand New Asus Mainboard with full RAID PCI-E and SATA support
2x SATA 200GB Seagate Barracudas
1x E-IDE 200GB Seagate Barracuda
256mb ATI Radeon x850 XT Connect3D Platinum Edition (PCI-E x16) (2048x1536 max, High Definition DVI to a 21" flatpanel LCD)
And I have to say... My new machine chews up four eve clients at once all running at 1600x1200 with full effects and spits them out... then asks for seconds.
High Def cards, expecially the PCI-E cards are well worth the investment, the sheer speed of them makes a hell of a difference.
If i run a single account at 1920x1440 in fullscreen, with all the effects on, i've still yet to see the framerate drop into to the double figures.
...which is nice.
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trong
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Posted - 2005.12.21 10:37:00 -
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Thanks for the replies guys.
I see a lot of you stressed the need for a better processor, unfortunately this is a christmas present from my dad, and he set out a budget for me, maybe i'' buy one a bit later though for my own cash. Also nice to hear that pcie pays off :)
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Jennai
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Posted - 2005.12.21 10:46:00 -
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 Originally by: trong
Also nice to hear that pcie pays off :)
AGP's dead, no reason to buy anything but PCI-E unless you're on a tight budget and can't afford a new motherboard for a while
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Zhaine
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Posted - 2005.12.21 10:49:00 -
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I've not heard great things about the X1600 for general gaming, a similarly priced nVidia may be a better bet. Although they may have dropped in price since I last looked in any detail. . .
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Joshua Deakin
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Posted - 2005.12.21 10:56:00 -
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S939 i.e. Socket S939 is for AMD-based processors, hence your current cpu won't fit. AMD A64 3000+ is not that expensive, bundled with a X1600 series gpu, would enhance your gaming experience, opt for 1 gig ram. Should be plenty.
Your framerates will drasticly improve. I myself upgraded from R9800Pro 128MB to X850XT 256MB while keeping the setup otherwise the same, I'm able to run 1280x960 4xFSAA 8xAniso filtering with high framerates and good quality. Your current gpu is almost the lowest possible, even upgrading that to better one would improve framerate.
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Joshua Deakin
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Posted - 2005.12.21 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: Jennai
Originally by: trong
Also nice to hear that pcie pays off :)
AGP's dead, no reason to buy anything but PCI-E unless you're on a tight budget and can't afford a new motherboard for a while
While PCI-E doesn't really bring additional perfomance atm. compared to similiar AGP card. The X850XT's have come down a lot in prices and perform more than enough for Eve.
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Jennai
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Posted - 2005.12.21 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Deakin
While PCI-E doesn't really bring additional perfomance atm. compared to similiar AGP card. The X850XT's have come down a lot in prices and perform more than enough for Eve.
AGP X850 and X850XT are like $100 more than PCI-E, and the next generation of video cards won't have any AGP versions.
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Kaeljen Dae
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Posted - 2005.12.21 11:41:00 -
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I used to have an Athlon 2600+, 512mb RAM (400mhz) and a 9600PRO.
I upgraded roughly 2 months ago my RAM; I bought another 512mb RAM. They were the best 50Ç spent for upgrading EVE. I got over a 25% increase in FPS. I used the chance to set better latency values for the RAM and enable a few graphical options. The problem is my graphicscard had heat problems for a few years now, and while killing some officers it overheated and now I get graphical in any 3d environment, making EVE completely unplayable. I will now upgrade to a 6600gt; as soon as I have it at home (it's taking ages, I even had to cancel my reserve at the last shop after they had me waiting for 4 weeks)
BTW, it's AGP too, I don't have the money to make a decent system overhaul: I don't want to switch to a PCI-X mobo and graphicscard, a new processor, DDR2 ram... to get a 30% increase in performance
But what I wanted to say is that I didn't feel I got a performance boost with all these options enabled; switching between memory latencies and frequencies (333mhz to 400mhz) was barely noticeable. The most limiting factor was the fact that I had so little RAM for this game. It's VERY Ram-hungry
If I were in your place, Trong, I'd reconsider: What do you want? An upgrade which will allow you to upgrade a lot lateron but won't give you as much of a performance boost as you could get for the same amount of money OR as much of a performance boost for a certain amount of money?
If I wanted a performance boost, knowing this is the last I can get out of my mobo, I'd look for the specifications of my mobo and if it supports a way faster CPU (look for BIOS upgrades!!). It should be a 478pin socket, and Asus usually do their best to get newer BIOS out to support better and faster CPUs.
1) buy additional 512 mb SD-RAM - the fact that you're limited to running SD-RAM is probably the worst of your current mobo. Here's where you get to make the choice to either buy some generic 512mb RAM for 40Ç with CL3, or high quality 1gb RAM with CL2, for roughly 160Ç. I would test both options and see which is more of a gang for the buck. Should you feel your RAM is still not enough, you could even buy another module lateron for your third ram-bank. This should increase the performance of the current system by 50-100% (I'm always talking about EVE here)
2) Buy a new AGP graphicscard. Somewhere along the lines of the NVIDIA 6600GT. It should cost you less than 150Ç. Go for a 256mb version, if possible, so you'll avoid it ever having to fall back to your system RAM, which should be too slow to get you anywhere near to playable framerates (SD-Ram should send you below 12FPS in any game as soon as the memory allocated to texture is filled). The performance boost for EVE should be less than 50% for this if you run at 1024+768 (more if above), but should make all other games launched up to now at least playable (30FPS at 1024+768).
3) Buy a 3ghz Celeron for roughly 100Ç (Ok, I know, it's a Celeron, and Celeron's suck when compared to P4s, but it's so cheap, and yet it's way faster than a 1,6ghz P4) - since it's 478socket and should be supported by your mobo (again, check for new BIOS and their specifications at asus.com). This should give you a boost of almost 50-100% for EVE, since the difference between running under 2ghz and above it is quite big
If you are in the US, you should get all even cheaper (200Çgrphx card here=160-170$ grphx card there)
The advantages of this way of upgrading: It builds up on your current system, you can go step by step (e.g. you can buy one thing today, another thing the next month, etc). Whereas changing your mobo will oblige you to buy a new mobo, a new graphicscard, new ram all at once to get it running. The problem here is you can't enhance "modulewise", since you'll need to buy all at once to get your system running - and will be very limited to the amount of money you have during christmas.
/Kael
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.21 11:44:00 -
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enabling virtual memory to support the CPU and graphics card and ensuring its well ventalated is important anything over 60C is a big problem that should be watched - if its an issue drop the effects etc and lower screen resolution
But yes lots of ram at least 712MB preferrably over 1GB as well as virtual memory is the way to avoid problems
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.12.21 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: trong
Edited by: trong on 20/12/2005 17:26:30
Edited by: trong on 20/12/2005 17:25:17
Currently i have a system with:
Radeon 7000 64mb vid card
256mb of sdram
P4B Asus motherboard
1.6ghrz intel cpu (unkown name exactly)
I plan to have:
X1600 256mb vid card with shader 3.0 and PCI x16
512 or 1gig of ddr2 ram
S939 MSI motherboard (can't remember which, but it supports 1x PCIe16)
the same processor.
DOes anyone have a similar system as the one i'm going to build, or can generally make a prediction as to the FPS in various scenarios. With my old setup i ran at about 2-4 fps with constant freezing during combat while getting upto 10 fps in station. What will i get now?
you will get big problems trying to use your intel processor on a S939 board.
just add a AMD64 processor to the list and you will be pretty happy with the result.
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Savion Marquis
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Posted - 2005.12.21 11:50:00 -
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Bleh while I hate to say it with the newer cards Nvidia has the edge over ATI. No doubt this will soon change, however i'd advise you to possibly lookin into the 66xx or 68xx series.
Sav
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