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Skill Training Online
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
84
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Posted - 2013.08.05 00:01:00 -
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On my main character who is a director of one the larger mission running corporations, our SRP had ~2.9b isk in it and was hardly being touched, so I decided to make an easy 30% profit and bet the max on PL being eliminated.
History has shown that wasn't the best idea.
Are there any corporations that offer discrete loans? |

Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
736
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Posted - 2013.08.05 00:17:00 -
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I would love to give 3bn isk to a ¦¦d¦¦e¦¦g¦¦e¦¦n¦¦e¦¦r¦¦a¦¦t¦¦e¦¦ ¦¦g¦¦a¦¦m¦¦b¦¦l¦¦e¦¦r¦¦ risk taking C.E.O.
All i need is 4bn in collateral. Contact me in game. Eve is Real |

Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
778
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Posted - 2013.08.05 00:28:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:On my main character who is a director of one the larger mission running corporations, our SRP had ~2.9b isk in it and was hardly being touched, so I decided to make an easy 30% profit and bet the max on PL being eliminated.
History has shown that gambling with other people's "money" is usually a pretty bad sign.
Guido and Nico, will be right over. 
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |

Bronto Scorpio
Aliastra Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2013.08.05 01:00:00 -
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OP should be a politician, he literally stole tax money  |

Tetsuo Tsukaya
Pixel Navigators
86
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Posted - 2013.08.05 02:25:00 -
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Posting in a stealth pandemic legion smug thread |

Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
228
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Posted - 2013.08.05 02:26:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:On my main character who is a director of one the larger mission running corporations, our SRP had ~2.9b isk in it and was hardly being touched, so I decided to make an easy 30% profit and bet the max on PL being eliminated.
History has shown that wasn't the best idea.
Are there any corporations that offer discrete loans? You have a brilliant career future in public service. Or as contestant #43 in the East River Concrete-Coat-Swim Invitational. Or possibly as a Union Delegate.
Or all of the above.  |

Skill Training Online
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
85
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Posted - 2013.08.05 02:51:00 -
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Bronto Scorpio wrote:OP should be a politician, he literally stole tax money 
I didn't steal it I was going to give the 2b back and pocket the 600m. |

Freakdevil
Aliastra Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2013.08.05 02:54:00 -
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Tell them you were taken hostage by pirates and the isk was used to secure your release. Or you could just fess up and tell them your a lousy gambler.
I would lend you the isk but I don't trust you  |

Bronto Scorpio
Aliastra Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2013.08.05 04:45:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:Bronto Scorpio wrote:OP should be a politician, he literally stole tax money  I didn't steal it I was going to give the 2b back and pocket the 600m.
Brb, gonna visit your house, take your stuff, sell them at expensive prices, buy identical stuff, put it back, take extra profits for myself then explain to cops I didn't steal your stuff, I was gonna put it back.
Also if you didn't steal it why is this a problem? Surely your corp/ceo will understand  |

Riot Girl
Krypteia Operations
1507
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Posted - 2013.08.05 05:01:00 -
[10] - Quote
Take your chances with an ISK doubler, I'd highly recommend Erotica 1. Oh god. |
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Nedisu
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
25
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Posted - 2013.08.05 05:31:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:mission running corporations
Skill Training Online wrote:our SRP
what the hell |

Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
369
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Posted - 2013.08.05 06:50:00 -
[12] - Quote
Wait, is this the "famous people who play EvE" thread? I suspect this guy is really Bernie Madoff IRL. |

psycho freak
Snuff Box Urine Alliance
262
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Posted - 2013.08.05 10:03:00 -
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your a mission runner 2b is chump change pay up out your own pocket my spelling sux brb find phone number for someone who gives a fu*k
nop cant find it |

Van Dollen
Station Window Lickers
0
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Posted - 2013.08.05 10:27:00 -
[14] - Quote
Skill Training Online wrote:On my main character who is a director of one the larger mission running corporations, our SRP had ~2.9b isk in it and was hardly being touched, so I decided to make an easy 30% profit and bet the max on PL being eliminated.
History has shown that wasn't the best idea.
Are there any corporations that offer discrete loans?
Sure ill give you a loan for the amount you need, come and meet me in Rancer later. |

ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
1719
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Posted - 2013.08.05 11:43:00 -
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Bronto Scorpio wrote:Skill Training Online wrote:Bronto Scorpio wrote:OP should be a politician, he literally stole tax money  I didn't steal it I was going to give the 2b back and pocket the 600m. Brb, gonna visit your house, take your stuff, sell them at expensive prices, buy identical stuff, put it back, take extra profits for myself then explain to cops I didn't steal your stuff, I was gonna put it back.
The British legal definition of theft is "dishonestly appropriating property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it." Therefore this crime is embezzlement. If he could prove he had the intention of returning the money but keeping the profit, he'd just be on fraud, embezzlement and misappropriation of funds charges  Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |

Will Aubaris
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.08.05 13:02:00 -
[16] - Quote
Get your wallet out, and buy some Plex maybe? |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness Clockwork Pineapple
1891
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Posted - 2013.08.05 13:05:00 -
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posting in a begging thread |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
537
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Posted - 2013.08.05 13:13:00 -
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...nice one, and some still telling me that people act differently in a game vs. real life https:// |

William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
178
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Posted - 2013.08.05 13:13:00 -
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Can't even spell discreet, gambles away honest, hard-working carebear money and then even asks for handouts?
I think CCP should bail him out. It's the sensible thing to do. pâ+(*GîÆGêçGîÆ*)n+ë pü+(pé£GêçpÇü-¦)pü+ (GùòGÇ+GùòG£+) |

Eraza
Fuzzyness Enterprizes
38
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Posted - 2013.08.05 13:48:00 -
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i think that's about 4 plex, which is your best bet if you dont have assets to liquidate and dont want people angry at you... |
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1080
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Posted - 2013.08.05 13:51:00 -
[21] - Quote
Gingers, all gingers.
*removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |

Iamien
Krypteia Operations Self Sabatoge
247
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:31:00 -
[22] - Quote
As someone with more isk than I know what to do with, Would bankrolling a high-sec mission-running corp be profitable in the long run?
Provide offices / SRP / Starter mission ships/ the occasional pos(are these even needed in highsec?) in return for tax?
Mission runners can't die that often and this guy obviously had a surplus. |

Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
230
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Posted - 2013.08.05 16:06:00 -
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William Walker wrote:Can't even spell discreet, gambles away honest, hard-working carebear money and then even asks for handouts?
I think CCP should bail him out. It's the sensible thing to do. They don't do bailouts in Iceland. 
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Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
3441
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Posted - 2013.08.05 17:10:00 -
[24] - Quote
Iamien wrote:As someone with more isk than I know what to do with, Would bankrolling a high-sec mission-running corp be profitable in the long run?
Provide offices / SRP / Starter mission ships/ the occasional pos(are these even needed in highsec?) in return for tax?
Mission runners can't die that often and this guy obviously had a surplus. At best in the long run.
For short to medium gain it would be more adviseable to invest in gankers and there the potential profits are much higher too. |

Sjugar
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
104
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Posted - 2013.08.05 17:13:00 -
[25] - Quote
I'd say you stop posting on the forums and start running some missions to get that isk back. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
5551
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Posted - 2013.08.05 17:13:00 -
[26] - Quote
Take your panhandling back to Jita.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Obvious Cyno
The Drunken Empire Fatal Ascension
58
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Posted - 2013.08.05 19:39:00 -
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I'm sure the royal amarr institute can afford a meager 2bil loss with all the taxes they take from noobs. |

Mr Paperclip
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.08.05 21:29:00 -
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Ahhh it's gordon brown spending my pension all over again!!!  |

Inokuma Yawara
University of Caille Gallente Federation
82
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Posted - 2013.08.06 04:36:00 -
[29] - Quote
Wow... I think Corporation Officers everywhere need to do an audit to see if any funds are missing. Somewhere, a Corporation in New Eden has an embezzler on their hands... Watch this space.-á New exciting signature in development. |

Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
21
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Posted - 2013.08.06 05:11:00 -
[30] - Quote
Go run incursions. |
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Jorden Ishonen
Kinetic Technologies
116
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Posted - 2013.08.06 06:24:00 -
[31] - Quote
Skill Training Online wrote: Are there any corporations that offer discrete loans?
No. I only offer continuous loans. |

NG4ge
Musculus Cremaster Illusion of Solitude
2
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Posted - 2013.08.06 06:38:00 -
[32] - Quote
Unlucky. I bet on PL in all 4 matches, even when they were odds of 3.01... Also one time Eve-Bet sent me my payout twice obviously in the spirit of Eve, I didn't send it back. |

Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
123
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Posted - 2013.08.06 09:02:00 -
[33] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:...nice one, and some still telling me that people act differently in a game vs. real life
Ahah yeah. this guy certainly steals his company money in real life too! |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1081
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Posted - 2013.08.06 11:14:00 -
[34] - Quote
Solstice just gave the right answer.
Take a couple dudes with strong Hybrid/drone skills, fit 8 Talos+1 dessie (gallente of course) full gank, best ammo and dmg implants (2x+5 dmg), get a huge cargo alt ready.
Scan the Freighter, overload guns, point it and shoot it.
2Billion?- dude if you do it right it's at least 20 billion you're going to be making once all costs factored. Man up stop complaining and shooting stupid red crosses. *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
301
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Posted - 2013.08.06 11:15:00 -
[35] - Quote
op should plex up and pay his gambling debt, before his corp turns on him and wrecks his shiny ships. When he's done that he should resign his senior position as he is not suited to high office. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

embrel
BamBam Inc.
8
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Posted - 2013.08.06 11:16:00 -
[36] - Quote
take some more, leave corp and call it a Heist?
EDIT: I think I'm learning about EVE! |

Bok Molkar
6
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Posted - 2013.08.06 11:44:00 -
[37] - Quote
Why did you give the opposing better the Isk? It would be easier to **** one guy over instead of your entire corporation. If I were you, I would have burnt the bridge. I also wouldn't have made such a huge bet on my main. Learn to not **** up kid. |

Snezz Boscone
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.08.06 22:02:00 -
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The sensible solution is to use the rest of the corporation funds on more gambling. there are numerous OOG services you can use to fix your problem...throwing more money at a problem always works! |

Skill Training Online
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
87
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Posted - 2013.08.06 22:16:00 -
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Solved the Problem, I am now in posession of:
3 Abaddon 1 Raven 2 Dominix 2 Megathron 8 Tempest 1 Maelstrom 26 Drake 1 Harbinger 2 Cyclone 9 Brutix
    http://evepraisal.com/estimate/439383
hundreds of T2 Mods (Valued at 1.6b)
and 900m ISK remaining in the SRP wallet.
I have joined the elite corporation known as Native Freshfood.
[NF] for life. 
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SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
85
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Posted - 2013.08.06 23:08:00 -
[40] - Quote
Tell me more  |
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Freakdevil
Aliastra Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2013.08.06 23:20:00 -
[41] - Quote
Skill Training Online wrote:Solved the Problem, I am now in posession of: 3 Abaddon 1 Raven 2 Dominix 2 Megathron 8 Tempest 1 Maelstrom 26 Drake 1 Harbinger 2 Cyclone 9 Brutix    http://evepraisal.com/estimate/439383hundreds of T2 Mods (Valued at 1.6b) and 900m ISK remaining in the SRP wallet. I have joined the elite corporation known as Native Freshfood. [NF] for life. 
Your original post had charm. This is just ordinary. You could have at least made up a better ending!  |

Skill Training Online
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
88
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Posted - 2013.08.06 23:35:00 -
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Freakdevil wrote:Your original post had charm. This is just ordinary. You could have at least made up a better ending! 
The whole thing just kind of got rushed, I spent the weekend farming ISK fairly hardcore, and all the time I noticed I was paying ISK into the system. Via our 15% corp tax-rate. Then it occured to me, I have been paying 15% tax since I've been in this corporation for almost 8 months now. And while I do get a "share" of the income for being a director, I still end up losing ISK in the long run.
The ISK collected in taxes was partially MY ISK, and if you consider all the time and effort I put into policing the SRP and going the extra mile to ensure even faction modules are replaced at a reasonable cost I technically had ownership of the SRP fund.
So after making about 800m ISK this weekend and paying 120m of it right back to the corp, I decided I had had enough. It was time for me to stop apologizing for simply taking what was rightfully mine.
From this point of view I hadn't done anythign wrong, but certainly when the CEO logs in next I'll be branded a thief regardless of rightful ownership.
I emptied the SRP hangar and wallet as a measure of justice, if I am going to be wrongfully branded a theif without any reasonable hope of clearing my name I might as well go forth with both feet forward.
If you steal something small you are a petty thief, but if you steal millions you are a gentleman of society -- Greek Proverb
If you look at it this way: 400m per weekend 4 weekends per month 8 months in corp. 15% Tax Rate
1.9B (more or less what I borrowed). So, the money I lost was really originally MY MONEY. So I shouldn't be branded a thief.
Wrongfully accaused of being a thief, might as well be a thief. |

Ninder
Helghan Imperial Armada Apocalypse Now.
4
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Posted - 2013.08.07 00:25:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:Freakdevil wrote:Your original post had charm. This is just ordinary. You could have at least made up a better ending!  The whole thing just kind of got rushed, I spent the weekend farming ISK fairly hardcore, and all the time I noticed I was paying ISK into the system. Via our 15% corp tax-rate. Then it occured to me, I have been paying 15% tax since I've been in this corporation for almost 8 months now. And while I do get a "share" of the income for being a director, I still end up losing ISK in the long run. The ISK collected in taxes was partially MY ISK, and if you consider all the time and effort I put into policing the SRP and going the extra mile to ensure even faction modules are replaced at a reasonable cost I technically had ownership of the SRP fund. So after making about 800m ISK this weekend and paying 120m of it right back to the corp, I decided I had had enough. It was time for me to stop apologizing for simply taking what was rightfully mine. From this point of view I hadn't done anythign wrong, but certainly when the CEO logs in next I'll be branded a thief regardless of rightful ownership. I emptied the SRP hangar and wallet as a measure of justice, if I am going to be wrongfully branded a theif without any reasonable hope of clearing my name I might as well go forth with both feet forward. If you steal something small you are a petty thief, but if you steal millions you are a gentleman of society -- Greek ProverbIf you look at it this way: 400m per weekend 4 weekends per month 8 months in corp. 15% Tax Rate 1.9B (more or less what I borrowed). So, the money I lost was really originally MY MONEY. So I shouldn't be branded a thief. Wrongfully accaused of being a thief, might as well be a thief.
You're an *******. Isk means nothing without friends. |

Lazy Eagle
FUITA Eternal Syndicate
3
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Posted - 2013.08.07 00:33:00 -
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Your Honor the OP clearly stated it wasnt theft, i planned on giving those diamonds back. |

Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
240
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Posted - 2013.08.07 03:33:00 -
[45] - Quote
Skill Training Online wrote:UPDATE: Solved the Problem, I am now in posession of: 3 Abaddon 1 Raven 2 Dominix 2 Megathron 8 Tempest 1 Maelstrom 26 Drake 1 Harbinger 2 Cyclone 9 Brutix    http://evepraisal.com/estimate/439383hundreds of T2 Mods (Valued at 1.6b) and 900m ISK remaining in the SRP wallet. I have joined the elite corporation known as Native Freshfood. [NF] for life.  One question solved: Definitely an East River Concrete-Overcoat swim-meet contestant. |

Skill Training Online
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
89
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Posted - 2013.08.07 04:34:00 -
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You've Got Mail!
From: Former CEO To: STO
There is no greater suffering I can wish upon you, than what you have brought upon yourself. No man would have traded loyalty and friendship for money. You have fallen in the eyes of your friends, in your family and before god. The traitorGÇÖs path leads only to darkness, sadness, and exile. I could expose your deception and bring you low before all communities of EVE, instead I shall bide my time and wait. The damage you have caused is irreparable, you were my trusted lieutenant and someone I considered a friend. This corporation was formed to provide an alternative to brainwashing organizations like E-UNI, RVB, and Agony. You and I agreed upon this, and now you have cast away your principles for an easy payday. At this point in time I see no options but to close the corporation and personally my own account. You have destroyed everything. You have destroyed yourself, and you have destroyed me. Go on and build your future. Until one day CCP offers me a 5-day return pass. When that day comes I shall reveal to your new friends with who you really are. I am going to end right here as there are no amount of words to describe how little you have become.
My deepest condolences for your loss of humanity,
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Jorden Ishonen
Kinetic Technologies
116
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Posted - 2013.08.07 04:42:00 -
[47] - Quote
Skill Training Online wrote:This corporation was formed to provide an alternative to brainwashing organizations like E-UNI, RVB, and Agony.
Wat.
What the hell "brainwashing" are those organizations supposed to be doing?
Also, gotta love the "YOU STOLE MY SPACE PIXELS, HAVE YOU NO HUMANITY" card.
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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations Self Sabatoge
1117
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Posted - 2013.08.07 08:47:00 -
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This is why I charge my corp zero tax. I refuse to scam people like the ceo did in this story. The OPis welcome in my corp anytime. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

ACE McFACE
Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve
1444
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Posted - 2013.08.07 09:23:00 -
[49] - Quote
Skill Training Online wrote:You've Got Mail!
From: Former CEO To: STO
There is no greater suffering I can wish upon you, than what you have brought upon yourself. No man would have traded loyalty and friendship for money. You have fallen in the eyes of your friends, in your family and before god. The traitorGÇÖs path leads only to darkness, sadness, and exile. I could expose your deception and bring you low before all communities of EVE, instead I shall bide my time and wait. The damage you have caused is irreparable, you were my trusted lieutenant and someone I considered a friend. This corporation was formed to provide an alternative to brainwashing organizations like E-UNI, RVB, and Agony. You and I agreed upon this, and now you have cast away your principles for an easy payday. At this point in time I see no options but to close the corporation and personally my own account. You have destroyed everything. You have destroyed yourself, and you have destroyed me. Go on and build your future. Until one day CCP offers me a 5-day return pass. When that day comes I shall reveal to your new friends with who you really are. I am going to end right here as there are no amount of words to describe how little you have become.
My deepest condolences for your loss of humanity,
In other words, two seedy individuals will come to your house and cut off your thumb in a few years time. You should be notified if someone quotes your post so you can continue the argument! |

Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
28
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Posted - 2013.08.07 11:09:00 -
[50] - Quote
wy not post with your main? |
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Bok Molkar
6
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Posted - 2013.08.07 11:35:00 -
[51] - Quote
I agree with the CEO. This was a poor attempt at attention on the forums. You're weak. |

Skill Training Online
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
90
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Posted - 2013.08.07 12:14:00 -
[52] - Quote
Lugalbandak wrote:wy not post with your main?
Posting with my main would violate the power of the vocal minority.
Assuming people knew my main character they could then associate this with him and inform people who would otherwise never have read the forums.
TBH I regret it had to come to this, and I wish him luck in whatever game he plays next, but I am relieved he chose to quit, due to the relative anonymity of the forums there is a good chance I'll never have to pay for what I've done.
Alls well that ends well I suppose. |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
2513
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Posted - 2013.08.07 12:20:00 -
[53] - Quote
Pretty lame corp theft story. I can see why you didn't post it in C&P.
At least own the theft entirely, don't try some lame-brained justification that somehow taxes you paid are yours. Regardless of how high the rate is, you agreed to it, and it belongs to the corp, country, government, or whatever entity it is paid to. It was never yours.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |

William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
185
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Posted - 2013.08.07 13:06:00 -
[54] - Quote
Pls move to C&P and rename it: Despicable Carebear Vice President of Generic Highsec Corporation Steals Mission Running Taxes and Ships pâ+(*GîÆGêçGîÆ*)n+ë pü+(pé£GêçpÇü-¦)pü+ (GùòGÇ+GùòG£+) |

Grauth Thorner
Viziam Amarr Empire
130
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Posted - 2013.08.07 13:20:00 -
[55] - Quote
Skill Training Online wrote:You've Got Mail!
From: Former CEO To: STO
There is no greater suffering I can wish upon you, than what you have brought upon yourself. No man would have traded loyalty and friendship for money. You have fallen in the eyes of your friends, in your family and before god. The traitorGÇÖs path leads only to darkness, sadness, and exile. I could expose your deception and bring you low before all communities of EVE, instead I shall bide my time and wait. The damage you have caused is irreparable, you were my trusted lieutenant and someone I considered a friend. This corporation was formed to provide an alternative to brainwashing organizations like E-UNI, RVB, and Agony. You and I agreed upon this, and now you have cast away your principles for an easy payday. At this point in time I see no options but to close the corporation and personally my own account. You have destroyed everything. You have destroyed yourself, and you have destroyed me. Go on and build your future. Until one day CCP offers me a 5-day return pass. When that day comes I shall reveal to your new friends with who you really are. I am going to end right here as there are no amount of words to describe how little you have become.
My deepest condolences for your loss of humanity,
Seems to me that you've beaten the former CEO to it... A loss of, what is it... +/- 7b total? That could be gained back rather easily if everyone is willing to help with it and show the corp some love <3. This depends on the size of the corp ofc, but the average corp-size is what, 20-30 people or something. It seems to me that the former CEO considered the money to be his already, or he thought he had to get the money back on it's own... Otherwise I wouldn't see this as a reason to ragequit, not for longer then a day at least... Creator of the EVE Custom Ship Labeler application: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=188954&find=unread |

Ninder
Helghan Imperial Armada Apocalypse Now.
4
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Posted - 2013.08.07 16:00:00 -
[56] - Quote
Its stories like this that make me sad there's a character bazaar. I've used it myself and its a great service but anyone can screw a corp over and make a new identity. I don't think awoxing should be nerfed or banned, I just dont like the ease with which you can slip away and start a new life. I guess buying a new toon is just the same as starting a new account but then you'd have 500k sp as a cost for your new identity. |

Eraza
Fuzzyness Enterprizes
39
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Posted - 2013.08.08 23:50:00 -
[57] - Quote
all for the isk? really? i have gained and lost more then that, and none of it matters in the end what was more valuable for me then any amount of isk was having friends who still helped me even when they had nothing to gain from it
and to the CEO who's quitting:
i hope you are reading this, because now is a time when you can find out who to really trust
there is nothing to gain from hanging around, so look at your friends cherish those who stand by your side even when they have nothing to gain
everything in eve is an oppertunity, you have never truly lost untill you give up |
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