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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
1405
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:49:00 -
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Only when the claim that they are sub-par blatantly has no basis in reality. |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1101
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Posted - 2013.10.07 13:43:00 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Only when the claim that they are sub-par blatantly has no basis in reality.
You can whine and howl this all you want, pay for fun and get trade hub camping. The public has a right to know. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |

culo duro
The Bootcamp EveryoneVersusEveryone.com.
310
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Posted - 2013.10.07 13:59:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:Only when the claim that they are sub-par blatantly has no basis in reality. You can whine and howl this all you want, pay for fun and get trade hub camping. The public has a right to know.
Actually it's only really if you hire someone like Marmite, Whores in space, or Forsaken Asylum you'll get that.
All of those entities are saying they're moving away from that, but they need it, it's apart of their function. Smaller groups like WEPOD, BAW, etc are watchlisting their wartargets, running locates on them, and destroying their day.
And i'm pretty sure that's what you refeer to as hub camping. |

Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
82
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Posted - 2013.10.07 14:36:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Yall need to come down on the price here, I want to pay you to grief highsec people but I ain't paying no 1b isk for a week wardec against a bunch of miserable incursion dudes.
The almighty goonswarm fed needs mercs for highsec harrasment? Lol.
When I first started eve... I was in a carebear corp with a egotistical nutjob as the CEO. He ran his mouth to the wrong people, and our corp endured a lasting war with BAW and POD among others. ( A personal thanks to you guys, for teaching me that eve isnt about shooting rocks.) Anyhow, they didnt camp trade hubs. They didnt camp gates. They run locates, probe down mission runners, and generally make gameplay hell for their targets. You get what you pay for. |

Ju0ZaS
Mentally Assured Destruction
27
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Posted - 2013.10.07 14:51:00 -
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Honestly I don't understand why that guy is bitching about this here. He obviously hired someone like marmites, those guys never bother with their contracts. They keep doing their own thing, camping pipes and hubs, and hope that red blinkies will appear on their overview for them to gank out of the hundred of wars that they get funded by people like him.
POD guys are some of the top mercs. Camping trade hubs doesn't come into their resume. Are you going to fight me or do you expect to bore me to death with your forum pvp? |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1101
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Posted - 2013.10.07 14:52:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:La Nariz wrote:Yall need to come down on the price here, I want to pay you to grief highsec people but I ain't paying no 1b isk for a week wardec against a bunch of miserable incursion dudes. The almighty goonswarm fed needs mercs for highsec harrasment? Lol. When I first started eve... I was in a carebear corp with a egotistical nutjob as the CEO. He ran his mouth to the wrong people, and our corp endured a lasting war with BAW and POD among others. ( A personal thanks to you guys, for teaching me that eve isnt about shooting rocks.) Anyhow, they didnt camp trade hubs. They didnt camp gates. They run locates, probe down mission runners, and generally make gameplay hell for their targets. You get what you pay for.
I like to call it delegating, I find a better group to awox, the mercs get money and highsec people get some ~entertainment~. Its a win for all, except when they don't deliver. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |

Vixanda Alzae
Hi-Sec Heroes
6
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Posted - 2013.10.07 15:21:00 -
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culo duro wrote:La Nariz wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:Only when the claim that they are sub-par blatantly has no basis in reality. You can whine and howl this all you want, pay for fun and get trade hub camping. The public has a right to know. Actually it's only really if you hire someone like Marmite, Whores in space, or Forsaken Asylum you'll get that. All of those entities are saying they're moving away from that, but they need it, it's apart of their function. Smaller groups like WEPOD, BAW, etc are watchlisting their wartargets, running locates on them, and destroying their day. And i'm pretty sure that's what you refeer to as hub camping.
I don't often agree with Culo Duro, but he's right on this one. PoD might chase targets into a trade hub, or take a peek to see if they're undocked when they locate one there, but they don't camp the hub. I don't see them much in the pipes, either - unlike the others that Culo Duro so unkindly mentioned. - lol
You want someone who can take down almost any target, PoD is a good choice, but they're still limited by people logging in and undocking - and where the targets do those activities. A lot of targets don't venture much from the trade hub undock, please tell me how you're going to get kills on those guys if you don't visit the trade hub where they hang out? |

Xenya Loken
Red Dawn Mercenaries Forsaken Asylum
0
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Posted - 2013.10.07 15:39:00 -
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culo duro wrote:La Nariz wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:Only when the claim that they are sub-par blatantly has no basis in reality. You can whine and howl this all you want, pay for fun and get trade hub camping. The public has a right to know. Actually it's only really if you hire someone like Marmite, Whores in space, or Forsaken Asylum you'll get that. All of those entities are saying they're moving away from that, but they need it, it's apart of their function. Smaller groups like WEPOD, BAW, etc are watchlisting their wartargets, running locates on them, and destroying their day. And i'm pretty sure that's what you refeer to as hub camping.
I would like to point out that we only camp trade hubs in certain cases. No. 1 being a client has asked us to and No. 2 being if we have a fleet rolling out and we need to pick stuff up then we will hang around for a little bit. But so far we have never as an alliance stayed in a trade hub for maybe more than 30 minutes. You can see that in our killboards. And before you say 'but you have people getting kills in trade hubs' yes, one person usually, not the entire alliance. And to counter the inevitable 'you don't do anything other than gate camp' we are at war with a lot of people, and a lot of traffic moves around between trade hubs so we will naturally camp those gates, but at the same time as that we have a roaming fleet running at the same time. I'm also going to direct you to this http://kraze.eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=9351&view=violent_systems&m=10&y=2013 That link shows we are spread out, and are not just in trade hubs. So please don't say we are only trade hub campers when we aren't.
Also Pendulum you are awesome guys, some of the best in the business, keep up the good work. |

Solitary Pal
The Filthy Few Pendulum of Doom
7
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Posted - 2013.10.07 16:48:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:La Nariz wrote:Solitary Pal wrote:So please feel free to find a merc group within your budget. You get what you pay for  Last time I bought I only got trade hub camping and not any thing amusing from it. That's cool and all but if pay for gold I want gold not lead. You're going to have to point to a specific example here, because I don't believe that you hired Pendulum of doom and what you got was trade hub camping. Since they got rid of gleaker there isn't a single person in that alliance that camps trade hubs and it was never something that was widely practiced by PoD anyway. I couldn't care less if you believe me or not and I'm not burning this fresh awoxing alt just yet. Awoxed a horrible highsec industrial corp, found someone else more amusing to awox but wasn't done extorting this highsec industrial corp. So I paid for some entertainment and all I got was trade hub camping. So now in the same situation, except this time its a terrible incursion corp, I would pay the price were it the product offered or cheaper.
Just saying, he asked for a specific example, ie. War was declared on (insert corp) kills or lack thereof were (insert kills).
He didn't ask for your life story about awoxing alts and all that rubbish. I have a monocle therefore my opinion matters more than yours. |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1101
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Posted - 2013.10.07 17:46:00 -
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Solitary Pal wrote:
Just saying, he asked for a specific example, ie. War was declared on (insert corp) kills or lack thereof were (insert kills).
He didn't ask for your life story about awoxing alts and all that rubbish.
Yep and I'd love to give that specific example, except for it will burn my awoxing alt. That alt still has some mileage in it, so should I tack on lack of critical reasoning skills to my complaint? This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |

culo duro
The Bootcamp EveryoneVersusEveryone.com.
310
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Posted - 2013.10.07 18:05:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Solitary Pal wrote:
Just saying, he asked for a specific example, ie. War was declared on (insert corp) kills or lack thereof were (insert kills).
He didn't ask for your life story about awoxing alts and all that rubbish.
Yep and I'd love to give that specific example, except for it will burn my awoxing alt. That alt still has some mileage in it, so should I tack on lack of critical reasoning skills to my complaint?
I really wanna ask this... have you ever hired pod?
Because so far your reasoning seems to be that you hired one merc entity that camped trade hubs, and then think everyother group is, and that it's the only way people get kills in high sec.
What Solitary Pal is saying is that you put a complaint in about pricing, but you're not showing why it's a problem to begin with. If you don't want to show who your alt is, then that's your problem, but if you pu a complaint in please give a detailed example of how terrible the service is.
Besides that a dec from POD is well worth it, even if they get no kills, it means that the corp they got hired to go at war with didn't play for a week. (Skill Training online) |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1101
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Posted - 2013.10.07 19:05:00 -
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culo duro wrote:La Nariz wrote:Solitary Pal wrote:
Just saying, he asked for a specific example, ie. War was declared on (insert corp) kills or lack thereof were (insert kills).
He didn't ask for your life story about awoxing alts and all that rubbish.
Yep and I'd love to give that specific example, except for it will burn my awoxing alt. That alt still has some mileage in it, so should I tack on lack of critical reasoning skills to my complaint? I really wanna ask this... have you ever hired pod? Because so far your reasoning seems to be that you hired one merc entity that camped trade hubs, and then think everyother group is, and that it's the only way people get kills in high sec. What Solitary Pal is saying is that you put a complaint in about pricing, but you're not showing why it's a problem to begin with. If you don't want to show who your alt is, then that's your problem, but if you pu a complaint in please give a detailed example of how terrible the service is. Besides that a dec from POD is well worth it, even if they get no kills, it means that the corp they got hired to go at war with didn't play for a week. (Skill Training online)
Yep I hired them cause I always see their decs rolling in and figure if they have the resources to do that then they are perfectly capable of making an awoxed corp very unhappy. Price is an issue because I'm willing to pay for a service but, I want that service to happen as advertised. Since I've learned from experience that said service really means trade hub camping I'm no longer will to pay so much for said service, hence price complaint. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
1406
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Posted - 2013.10.07 20:01:00 -
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If only there was some way for us to see all of the kills of an alliance and where they happened. If there were it would be possible to see if your claim reflected reality in some way.
Oh wait, there is, it's called a killboard and it indicates that you're entirely full of crap. |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1101
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Posted - 2013.10.07 20:10:00 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:If only there was some way for us to see all of the kills of an alliance and where they happened. If there were it would be possible to see if your claim reflected reality in some way. Oh wait, there is, it's called a killboard and it indicates that you're entirely full of crap.
Good luck mining that for the exact data, you might want to use better tools too. The only thing worse than Battleclinic is our killboards. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |

Starrakatt
Hunter Killers. Forsaken Asylum
35
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Posted - 2013.10.07 21:08:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:If only there was some way for us to see all of the kills of an alliance and where they happened. If there were it would be possible to see if your claim reflected reality in some way. Oh wait, there is, it's called a killboard and it indicates that you're entirely full of crap. Good luck mining that for the exact data, you might want to use better tools too. The only thing worse than Battleclinic is our killboards. Or, you know, you could use EVE-Kill, which is much better than BC for kills browsing...
Bump for POD |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1101
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Posted - 2013.10.07 21:24:00 -
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Starrakatt wrote:La Nariz wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:If only there was some way for us to see all of the kills of an alliance and where they happened. If there were it would be possible to see if your claim reflected reality in some way. Oh wait, there is, it's called a killboard and it indicates that you're entirely full of crap. Good luck mining that for the exact data, you might want to use better tools too. The only thing worse than Battleclinic is our killboards. Or, you know, you could use EVE-Kill, which is much better than BC for kills browsing... Bump for POD
That was my point. You can mine the data there and see when it happened. I'm not going to post it outright here cause that'd burn my awoxing alt. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |

Zeus Maximo
Mentally Assured Destruction
475
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Posted - 2013.10.07 22:38:00 -
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You are full of nothingness. You have blabbed for an entire page claiming that one of the only alliances in eve that won't camp a trade hub is camping a trade hub. Out of all the mercs you pick on this one to blab your shite? It is prolly best you don't tell us your alts name so if it does have better rep, it won't get destroyed too.
On another note; you are the only one in crime and punishment to argue this point across. Do you see any other mercs standing by your side? Has at least one person agreed with you? |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1101
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Posted - 2013.10.08 00:03:00 -
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Zeus Maximo wrote:You are full of nothingness. You have blabbed for an entire page claiming that one of the only alliances in eve that won't camp a trade hub is camping a trade hub. Out of all the mercs you pick on this one to blab your shite? It is prolly best you don't tell us your alts name so if it does have better rep, it won't get destroyed too.
On another note; you are the only one in crime and punishment to argue this point across. Do you see any other mercs standing by your side? Has at least one person agreed with you?
The only rep that matters is the one on GF dotte com, so please tell me about your space likes :smug:. Keep up the grand customer service and white knighting though guys, it's really helping your cause. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
1406
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Posted - 2013.10.08 00:42:00 -
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All we are saying is that right now, rather than looking like an actual customer that is dissatisfied with a service trying to raise a legitimate complaint you just look like a smacktalking cretin who can't form a cogent argument. |

Zeus Maximo
Mentally Assured Destruction
475
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Posted - 2013.10.08 00:43:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Zeus Maximo wrote:You are full of nothingness. You have blabbed for an entire page claiming that one of the only alliances in eve that won't camp a trade hub is camping a trade hub. Out of all the mercs you pick on this one to blab your shite? It is prolly best you don't tell us your alts name so if it does have better rep, it won't get destroyed too.
On another note; you are the only one in crime and punishment to argue this point across. Do you see any other mercs standing by your side? Has at least one person agreed with you? The only rep that matters is the one on GF dotte com, so please tell me about your space likes :smug:. Keep up the grand customer service and white knighting though guys, it's really helping your cause.
Hypothesis confirmed. You are only posting on this thread to derail it.
Bump for POD! They will go wherever their targets are. Results are given time and time again! |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1101
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Posted - 2013.10.08 01:33:00 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:All we are saying is that right now, rather than looking like an actual customer that is dissatisfied with a service trying to raise a legitimate complaint you just look like a smacktalking cretin who can't form a cogent argument.
You're the one that started with ~my killboard~, then someone else with ~my space likes~. Point is paid for 5 got hub camping, letting folks know. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |

Yuller
The Filthy Few Pendulum of Doom
55
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Posted - 2013.10.08 20:38:00 -
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I'm pretty sure you have never hired us punkin.... |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1101
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Posted - 2013.10.08 23:58:00 -
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Yuller wrote:I'm pretty sure you have never hired us punkin....
Most certainly did. I regret doing so though, if I wanted trade hub camping I would have got a better deal elsewhere. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |

Yuller
The Filthy Few Pendulum of Doom
57
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Posted - 2013.10.09 01:03:00 -
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Link the alt you used cupcakes being i am the one who takes the contracts... |

Ifly Uwalk
Empire Tax Collection Agency
976
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Posted - 2013.10.09 03:03:00 -
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2 pages of phoos feeding the Goon troll.
+1 Nariz!  |

gnshadowninja
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
39
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Posted - 2013.10.09 09:03:00 -
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Goonie tears make me giggle.
On that note, bump for POD. Good bunch of guys and bring a fight! Jita ship recycling service. |

Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
561
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Posted - 2013.10.09 09:58:00 -
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Cant remember me ever seeing a POD guy camping a trade hub..... You either love us or we hate you. |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1101
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Posted - 2013.10.09 23:49:00 -
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Yuller wrote:Link the alt you used cupcakes being i am the one who takes the contracts...
You were very pleasant when taking the contract but, this follow through is terrible customer service.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3708413#post3708413 This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |

Yuller
The Filthy Few Pendulum of Doom
58
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Posted - 2013.10.10 00:42:00 -
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Your sad attempt at trolling is even worse.. |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1101
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Posted - 2013.10.10 01:00:00 -
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Yuller wrote:Your sad attempt at trolling is even worse..
The only thing sad here is this grand mercenary organization resorting to trade hub camping. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |
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