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Sigras
Conglomo
495
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Posted - 2013.08.09 10:01:00 -
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Ashina Sito wrote:Sigras wrote: Lastly, sov should not be based on PvE, for example, NC. was deployed to fountain to assist TEST, the whole alliance basically did nothing with their space for months; should they be punished for that?
Simple answer, yes. AFK ownership is a bad thing. Holding sov should be the same as holding NPC space. You have to live there to "own" it. Ironic that the only sov space that is working right is Providence. So youre telling me that if I am pandemic legion, and I have no interest in PvE but I want sov for cyno jammers, jump bridges and or manufacturing bonuses, I am forced into PvE ratting or something even though in PvP i waste everyone who comes into my space?
yeah thats great. |
Sigras
Conglomo
495
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Posted - 2013.08.09 10:02:00 -
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Emily Jean McKenna wrote:Jason Shaishi wrote:KIATolon wrote:I think that hi-sec SHOULD be significantly nerfed, as should wormholes While I 100% agree that high-sec should be nerfed, I am puzzled as to why you think wormholes should be nerfed. There are mechanics which should be implemented to make people to want to enter wormholes more (I say this because the entirety of C6 wormholes are dead but for SYJ) and to make wormhole life more interesting, but nerf them? I don't see a reason to. Nerf nothing, buff everything else. yeah because power creep isnt a thing . . . |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
1788
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Posted - 2013.08.09 10:22:00 -
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Sigras wrote:Ashina Sito wrote:Sigras wrote: Lastly, sov should not be based on PvE, for example, NC. was deployed to fountain to assist TEST, the whole alliance basically did nothing with their space for months; should they be punished for that?
Simple answer, yes. AFK ownership is a bad thing. Holding sov should be the same as holding NPC space. You have to live there to "own" it. Ironic that the only sov space that is working right is Providence. So youre telling me that if I am pandemic legion, and I have no interest in PvE but I want sov for cyno jammers, jump bridges and or manufacturing bonuses, I am forced into PvE ratting or something even though in PvP i waste everyone who comes into my space? yeah thats great.
No man is an island... Steve Ronuken for CSM 9!-į I'm starting early :) Handy tools and an SDE conversion Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
xttz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
154
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Posted - 2013.08.09 10:51:00 -
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Sigras wrote:Ashina Sito wrote:Sigras wrote: Lastly, sov should not be based on PvE, for example, NC. was deployed to fountain to assist TEST, the whole alliance basically did nothing with their space for months; should they be punished for that?
Simple answer, yes. AFK ownership is a bad thing. Holding sov should be the same as holding NPC space. You have to live there to "own" it. Ironic that the only sov space that is working right is Providence. So youre telling me that if I am pandemic legion, and I have no interest in PvE but I want sov for cyno jammers, jump bridges and or manufacturing bonuses, I am forced into PvE ratting or something even though in PvP i waste everyone who comes into my space? yeah thats great.
Yep, to own sov you should definitely be the best at ratting. There is no other possible reason to own your own space than wanting to PvE. Because as we all know, EVE is a dedicated PvE simulator. |
Atlantis Fuanan
Uncharted Skies Cerberus Unleashed
19
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Posted - 2013.08.09 11:03:00 -
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Like, CSM and Devs, srsly consider this! (That guy already has done lot of work for ya) |
The Mach
STEEL CITY. Tribal Band
3
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:58:00 -
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+1 read it all, and i see a couple issues that CCP could easily fix when implementing.
I know its touchy subject but something must be done. |
eddict
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2
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Posted - 2013.08.09 17:04:00 -
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please make it happen |
Zurin Arctus
CRANK INC. Brigands of New Eden
3
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Posted - 2013.08.09 17:27:00 -
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Quote: -Remove sov bills, only cost is for the TCU. -Constellation wide rather than system wide.
In hindsight I should have stopped reading there.
Massive defender advantage in sov warfare. Alarm-clocking even more necessary to take sov. Insane grinds for dubious bonuses. Anomalies that require blobs. NPC null residents forced to be pirate pets.
This is total dreck - an expansion made purely for the benefit of the few largest alliances in EVE. |
Jack bubu
GK inc. Pandemic Legion
457
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Posted - 2013.08.09 18:08:00 -
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Zurin Arctus wrote:Quote: -Remove sov bills, only cost is for the TCU. -Constellation wide rather than system wide. In hindsight I should have stopped reading there. Massive defender advantage in sov warfare. Alarm-clocking even more necessary to take sov. Insane grinds for dubious bonuses. Anomalies that require blobs. NPC null residents forced to be pirate pets. This is total dreck - an expansion made purely for the benefit of the few largest alliances in EVE. n1, you literally didnt understand anything he posted.
(hint its the exact opposite of what you are saying) |
Blastil
The Reblier Alliance
95
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Posted - 2013.08.09 18:43:00 -
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Sigras wrote:Ashina Sito wrote:Sigras wrote: Lastly, sov should not be based on PvE, for example, NC. was deployed to fountain to assist TEST, the whole alliance basically did nothing with their space for months; should they be punished for that?
Simple answer, yes. AFK ownership is a bad thing. Holding sov should be the same as holding NPC space. You have to live there to "own" it. Ironic that the only sov space that is working right is Providence. So youre telling me that if I am pandemic legion, and I have no interest in PvE but I want sov for cyno jammers, jump bridges and or manufacturing bonuses, I am forced into PvE ratting or something even though in PvP i waste everyone who comes into my space? yeah thats great.
I feel that a much more healthy 0.0 would be made by forcing alliances to manage PVE activities to participate in pvp. if you dont' want to do it yourself, then you will need to recruit people who do want to do it, or rent.
I would much rather have a sov system which forced 0.0 entities to manage the space they own, they can't have free money without the responsibility of tending to the money tree. Asking for anything else is petty and dumb. |
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Zurin Arctus
CRANK INC. Brigands of New Eden
4
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Posted - 2013.08.09 18:44:00 -
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Jack bubu wrote:Zurin Arctus wrote:Quote: -Remove sov bills, only cost is for the TCU. -Constellation wide rather than system wide. In hindsight I should have stopped reading there. Massive defender advantage in sov warfare. Alarm-clocking even more necessary to take sov. Insane grinds for dubious bonuses. Anomalies that require blobs. NPC null residents forced to be pirate pets. This is total dreck - an expansion made purely for the benefit of the few largest alliances in EVE. n1, you literally didnt understand anything he posted. (hint its the exact opposite of what you are saying)
Quote:Owner chooses time that constellation comes out of reinforce.
Hahahaha. Oh wow.
Quote:Supers and titans are worthless.
Must be why PL uses them so much!
And I understood it fine; his transparent, self-serving doublespeak just wasn't all that compelling to me.
There are bits and pieces of good ideas in his post, but most of it is just a PL kiddie wishing he could rewrite the game's rules to favor his alliance. |
Allison A'vani
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
52
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Posted - 2013.08.09 20:08:00 -
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Very good post op. |
Liam Inkuras
Justified Chaos
379
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Posted - 2013.08.09 20:32:00 -
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Great post with awesome suggestions. I'd love to see the little guys be able to put on the hurt I wear my goggles at night.
Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone |
EI Digin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1101
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Posted - 2013.08.09 21:51:00 -
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Thanks for the positive feedback everyone! |
eVRiAL
Black Mesa Inc Desperate Bastards
8
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Posted - 2013.08.10 09:49:00 -
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I have a better way of fixing 0.0
DELETE FROM 'alliances' where 'name' = 'Pandemic Legion' |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1209
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Posted - 2013.08.10 22:38:00 -
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eVRiAL wrote:I have a better way of fixing 0.0
DELETE FROM 'alliances' where 'name' = 'Pandemic Legion'
no. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
EI Digin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1121
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Posted - 2013.08.13 23:13:00 -
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eVRiAL wrote:I have a better way of fixing 0.0
DELETE FROM 'alliances' where 'name' = 'Pandemic Legion'
If only it were that easy |
Loki Feiht
Feiht Family Clan
119
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Posted - 2013.08.14 00:28:00 -
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I still think there should be solo content available in nullsec but I do like OP's thread +1 More NPC - Randomly Generated Modular Content-įthread https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=220858 |
Mouse Surfingbird
The-VLD Inc. Q.U.A.S.A.R.
0
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Posted - 2013.08.15 06:35:00 -
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I approve |
coolzero
Mortis Angelus WHY so Seri0Us
90
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Posted - 2013.08.16 00:00:00 -
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i like!! |
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killin en Thrillin
Helion Production Labs Mildly Intoxicated
1
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Posted - 2013.08.16 03:16:00 -
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make space worth fighting. +1 |
Pradege D'Hallur
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
1
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Posted - 2013.08.16 12:22:00 -
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Very good post would love to see some iteration of these changes come to fruition. Would be a good boost to changing how stagnant nullsec is and effecting the way people view and feel about moving out here. |
Solock
EveCorporation12315533 Pandemic Legion
9
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Posted - 2013.08.18 02:04:00 -
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I am so proud of the OP I could cry.
--- EveCorporation12315533 forever! |
Aequitas Veritas
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
4
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Posted - 2013.08.18 19:50:00 -
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This belongs on the first page! |
Yakima DWB
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2013.08.18 21:38:00 -
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Great Ideas. |
Luke Simstantinou
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
7
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Posted - 2013.08.21 03:37:00 -
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Tight! Tight tight, yeah! |
Omega Tron
23
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Posted - 2013.08.21 04:21:00 -
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Yes this is something that needs a long hard look done by CCP Design. But sadly what appears so obvious to us players is seen by the CCP Game Design as something that is beyond their ablility to do when they apply their structured development rules. EVE Online is CCP's sand box. -įThe sand is owned by CCP. -įWe just get to pay them a monthly fee to throw the sand at each other. -įGet over your thoughts that you have some influence on what they will add or do for you. |
Skyly
Tr0pa de elite. Pandemic Legion
14
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Posted - 2013.08.21 21:24:00 -
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Yup. +1 |
Grunnax Aurelius
The Horny Heron's
183
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Posted - 2013.08.21 21:52:00 -
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Make this happen please +1 Marauder: 1 Subsystem to Modulate the Role they Fulfil: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=271219 |
Bakuhz
The Horny Heron's
116
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Posted - 2013.08.21 22:01:00 -
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super awesome idea see the big sov holders cry as they need mroe slaves to maintain space. +1
Gizznitt Malikite wrote: Frankly, your system is missing a MAJOR component....
Use your space, or risk easily losing your space!!!
You need a dynamic number of RF timers!
I'd call it a Sov Index: If people don't use their space, they get NO RF timers. If they utilize their space lightly, they get 1 RF timer... If they use properly, they get 2 or 3 RF timers...
To give an example with our current system;
Sov Index = Sum of all military & Industrial indexes in the constellation / 2x Number of systems in constellation.
Round down... If you heavily use your system, it will be a 4 (or even 5) == 4 RF timers to defend your stuff. If you don't use the system at all, it would be a zero, so anyone could come destroy your TCU/IHUB and place their own in a single military move!
Next, your Industrial and Capital bonuses are broken: If I can generate "extra minerals" simply by building something, reprocess it, build ti again, reprocess it... you have a mineral faucet that will be exploited and break the mineral supply of EvE. This would ruin EvE's player-run economy.
Likewise, if I can make 15% profit by selling my alt 400b isk in modules, only to have him trade it back to me so I can make another 15% profit selling my alt 400b isk in modules... you just broke EvE's currency, and make isk worthless.
Perhaps you weren't suggesting creating ridiculous loopholes like that, but I thought I'd double check!!!
this would be a nice addition to the system no use of space no RF timers will force holders to spread out and think about how much space they will take as they need to maintain it to defend it good trade off.
also a +1
will seriously change the dynamic part of conquering systems maintaining them in order to be entitled to defend it. sounds like big boy's have to run a suicide run to get to all area's they get plundered http://rakah.griefwatch.net/?p=pilot&pilot=%3CBakuhz
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