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Kretschmer099
Right to Rule THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:02:00 -
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CCP was send E-Mail for Japanese.
Quote:CCP Games, Japan Team **** Dear [accountname], On July 7, 2011, CCP Games and Nexon Co. Ltd. announced the signing of a co-publishing agreement that aims to bring a localized and fully supported version of EVE Online to Japan. The partnership entails that CCP will continue to develop and host the game, as well as handle all gameplay related customer support. Nexon, meanwhile, will handle billing, billing support and local marketing/PR. We have noticed that our Japanese players are very curious about the plans ahead and we will try to answer some of the most frequently asked questions here below. Payments, account and ID In order to fully utilize the strengths and expertise of the two companies GÇô and thereby offer the best possible service to Japanese users GÇô Nexon will handle all EVE-related payments for Japanese users starting from April 1, 2012. We have adapted an approach that ensures minimal inconvenience for our existing players. We hereby confirm that players will keep both existing EVE accounts and characters, and that there will be no change regarding the existing EVE ID system or how it is used to access the game client and EVE-related login sites (such as EVE Gate and Account Management). Please note, however, that all players will need to establish an additional Nexon ID which will be used exclusively for billing and billing support. In short, the only change to existing account and login procedure is that after April 1, 2012 an additional login step will be added for players to access NexonGÇÖs convenient and secure payment system. The change above will apply to all players residing in Japan regardless of nationality. Nexon offers all major payment methods. Please click the following for more information: https://point.nexon.co.jp/main/guide/guide/what.aspLanguage options and server We want to use this opportunity to confirm that all Japan-based users will continue to have the option of playing in English, Japanese or any other languages officially supported by CCP. Although it is a common matter of speech to refer to a GÇ£Japanese clientGÇ¥ to be launched in Japan, we want to emphasize that Japanese players will continue to play on Tranquility with the rest of EVEGÇÖs international community, and that Japanese will be added as a language option to the existing EVE client, which already supports English, Russian and German. All Japan-based players will retain these language options after the launch of Japanese. Localization status and plans ahead In this context, we are happy to announce that EVE players will have an opportunity to preview the new Japanese version of EVE before the end of the year. Testing and improving the Japanese version of EVE on the new localization platform, Cerberus, is a top priority for CCP right now and we look forward to reporting to you in more detail about our progress and plans ahead. Our partnership with Nexon also allows us to offer various EVE-related information, support and activities in Japanese which we are convinced will be of great interest to existing players. More information will follow in the coming weeks and months regarding the official launch plans, along with special discounts that will be offered to existing players to celebrate this long-awaited milestone. Thank you as always for your interest and participation in the ever-evolving world of EVE Online. Fly safely! CCP Games, Japan Team
Assuming the truth of the contents of this email.
The critical problem in this change is that we can't trust NEXON. Their ID and other management that is famous for its very sloppy in Japan. I'm not want to pay the money through this company. Many Japanese EVE player the same think. Why do CCP prevent same payment method until now? Can't understand. I'm happy with the current method of payment. but, some people want to pay with the NEXON, the choice should be remains. This means is CCP should be able to choose it both.
I'm warning that the current policy will be MANY JAPANESE NOT PLAY EVE. Of course, I'm one of them.
added, I'm trusting CCP.
Sorry poor English :p
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Fix Lag
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:03:00 -
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TL;DR some Japanese players don't trust or like Nexon and OP thinks it would be better if there were alternative methods of paying CCP besides through Nexon. |

Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate Not Usually Killing Everyone.
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:06:00 -
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Fix Lag wrote:TL;DR some Japanese players don't trust or like Nexon and OP thinks it would be better if there were alternative methods of paying CCP besides through Nexon.
Also that Japanese players will leave if it means they will be forced into using Nexon. The Drake is a Lie |

Htrag
The Carebear Stare Hydroponic Zone
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:06:00 -
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I support my Japanese brethren in their fight against this tyranny. Whatever "dev" it was that removed the pod squish sound probably never even logged into the game. |

Teromea
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:35:00 -
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If forced to Nexon ID, then I would quit EVE Online. |

Mersault
Angels of Alina Stardust Underground
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:45:00 -
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I support my Japanese fellow capsuleers in this |

RaTTuS
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:48:00 -
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can they not buy plex http://eveboard.com/ub/419190933-134.png
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Armon Deacon
TDK Industries Bi Winning Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:51:00 -
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Not a fan of Nexxon myself, but could one not simply buy GTC's and redeem them instead of having to pay Nexon? |

Wot I Think
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:53:00 -
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I wouldn't trust the Japanese either. Nexon is just CCP's way of saying "Don't Pearl Harbor me bro "
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Alara IonStorm
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:57:00 -
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Yes CCP needs to come up with a final solution to the Japanese problem...
Wait a Sec, let me rephrase that.
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Koniika
Ala Atra
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:57:00 -
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They don't seem to be able to use plex. if i am correct it seems that they have to buy everything through nexon. regular GTCs don't work. |

Two step
Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:59:00 -
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I'm happy to bring this up with CCP, but I don't really understand what the problems are. Is this correct: 1) People are concerned about NEXON having their billing information. Was there a security breach at NEXON before? 2) People are concerned about prices increasing. How much are Japanese people paying now? Are they charged the Euro rates or the US rates? Do they buy GTCs?
If folks aren't comfortable answering in public, feel free to eve mail me. CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog What does CSM 6 do? |

Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2011.10.27 16:00:00 -
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Glad I got a few decades worth of PLEX lined up, and a VISA card registered abroad... Else this news would have made me a very sad panda. 84,000 AUR ($420) spent on NeX store for Troll and Profit. |

Smoking Blunts
Zebra Corp BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.10.27 16:01:00 -
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its wrong of ccp to make this the only way you can pay and play eve.
GL with your fight against the stupidity that is CCP CCP-áare full of words and no action. We watch what they do and its nothing but false statements and lies.
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Koniika
Ala Atra
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Posted - 2011.10.27 16:03:00 -
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Two step wrote:I'm happy to bring this up with CCP, but I don't really understand what the problems are. Is this correct: 1) People are concerned about NEXON having their billing information. Was there a security breach at NEXON before? 2) People are concerned about prices increasing. How much are Japanese people paying now? Are they charged the Euro rates or the US rates? Do they buy GTCs?
If folks aren't comfortable answering in public, feel free to eve mail me.
Nexon is just..... even in the US they have a very bad reputation for having terrible customer service.
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Darius III
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.10.27 16:05:00 -
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More information on Nexon, if you have such, could prove to be relevant. If Women aren't supposed to do the cooking, why are their bodies full of milk and eggs? |

Two step
Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2011.10.27 16:06:00 -
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Koniika wrote:Two step wrote:I'm happy to bring this up with CCP, but I don't really understand what the problems are. Is this correct: 1) People are concerned about NEXON having their billing information. Was there a security breach at NEXON before? 2) People are concerned about prices increasing. How much are Japanese people paying now? Are they charged the Euro rates or the US rates? Do they buy GTCs?
If folks aren't comfortable answering in public, feel free to eve mail me. Nexon is just..... even in the US they have a very bad reputation for having terrible customer service.
But in this case, your support is still CCP (no comment on how good or bad that is), the only time you would have to deal with nexon would be billing issues. CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog What does CSM 6 do? |

Koniika
Ala Atra
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Posted - 2011.10.27 16:08:00 -
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Two step wrote:Koniika wrote:Two step wrote:I'm happy to bring this up with CCP, but I don't really understand what the problems are. Is this correct: 1) People are concerned about NEXON having their billing information. Was there a security breach at NEXON before? 2) People are concerned about prices increasing. How much are Japanese people paying now? Are they charged the Euro rates or the US rates? Do they buy GTCs?
If folks aren't comfortable answering in public, feel free to eve mail me. Nexon is just..... even in the US they have a very bad reputation for having terrible customer service. But in this case, your support is still CCP (no comment on how good or bad that is), the only time you would have to deal with nexon would be billing issues.
I'm talking about billing customer service. they tend to overcharge and generally are completely unhelpful.
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Wot I Think
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.27 16:12:00 -
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Two step wrote:I'm happy to bring this up with CCP, but I don't really understand what the problems are. Is this correct: 1) People are concerned about NEXON having their billing information. Was there a security breach at NEXON before? 2) People are concerned about prices increasing. How much are Japanese people paying now? Are they charged the Euro rates or the US rates? Do they buy GTCs?
If folks aren't comfortable answering in public, feel free to eve mail me.
1) Nexon are Koreans only people who don't like them are racists 2) My corporation has explained that a PLEX is cheaper than a McDONALD'S value item in Japan. |

Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2011.10.27 16:12:00 -
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Two step wrote:But in this case, your support is still CCP (no comment on how good or bad that is), the only time you would have to deal with nexon would be billing issues. No... Support will be handled all by NEXON.
Also, Japanese versions of MMO's usually have way higher price than in the west. (Think 2x or 3x 'just because they're japanese', rather than 30% due to VAT). It seems that they are really worried they won't be paying anything near the same old sane prices... And it will be rather strict, e.g. you can't skip the Japanese localized client hoping to avoid the surcharge, as long as you're a japanese resident you pay in blood. (lol, glad I got PLEX) 84,000 AUR ($420) spent on NeX store for Troll and Profit. |

i5L4NDOF5T4BiLiTY
sHaKeDoWn..
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Posted - 2011.10.27 16:15:00 -
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Random CCP decision, alienates part of the community. |

Two step
Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2011.10.27 16:16:00 -
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Rakshasa Taisab wrote:Two step wrote:But in this case, your support is still CCP (no comment on how good or bad that is), the only time you would have to deal with nexon would be billing issues. No... Support will be handled all by NEXON. Also, Japanese versions of MMO's usually have way higher price than in the west. (Think 2x or 3x 'just because they're japanese', rather than 30% due to VAT). It seems that they are really worried they won't be paying anything near the same old sane prices... And it will be rather strict, e.g. you can't skip the Japanese localized client hoping to avoid the surcharge, as long as you're a japanese resident you pay in blood. (lol, glad I got PLEX)
Um, from the email:
Quote: The partnership entails that CCP will continue to develop and host the game, as well as handle all gameplay related customer support.
I still would like to get folks to answer the questions I posed above. How much are Japanese people paying now for EVE, including taxes? CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog What does CSM 6 do? |

Smoking Blunts
Zebra Corp BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.10.27 16:20:00 -
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Two step wrote:Rakshasa Taisab wrote:Two step wrote:But in this case, your support is still CCP (no comment on how good or bad that is), the only time you would have to deal with nexon would be billing issues. No... Support will be handled all by NEXON. Also, Japanese versions of MMO's usually have way higher price than in the west. (Think 2x or 3x 'just because they're japanese', rather than 30% due to VAT). It seems that they are really worried they won't be paying anything near the same old sane prices... And it will be rather strict, e.g. you can't skip the Japanese localized client hoping to avoid the surcharge, as long as you're a japanese resident you pay in blood. (lol, glad I got PLEX) Um, from the email: Quote: The partnership entails that CCP will continue to develop and host the game, as well as handle all gameplay related customer support.
I still would like to get folks to answer the questions I posed above. How much are Japanese people paying now for EVE, including taxes?
any form of limiting there payment options is bad? can they pay with gtc's ? can they pay with plex? as billing is done through nexon? can they still log into the eve website and pay directly? CCP-áare full of words and no action. We watch what they do and its nothing but false statements and lies.
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Naran Eto
Kut-n-Run
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Posted - 2011.10.27 16:23:00 -
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Two step wrote:I'm happy to bring this up with CCP, but I don't really understand what the problems are. Is this correct: 1) People are concerned about NEXON having their billing information. Was there a security breach at NEXON before? 2) People are concerned about prices increasing. How much are Japanese people paying now? Are they charged the Euro rates or the US rates? Do they buy GTCs?
If folks aren't comfortable answering in public, feel free to eve mail me.
1) Yes, apparently Nexon has an extremely poor record when it comes to security issues, almost on the scale of sony's security breach on a monthly basis from what i hear (that may be a little exagerated but that's what im hearing). 2) Apparently Nexon are notorious for not following the international exchange rates and usually use a very bad rate of exchange plus charge for the service. |

Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
444
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Posted - 2011.10.27 16:28:00 -
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Two step wrote:Quote: The partnership entails that CCP will continue to develop and host the game, as well as handle all gameplay related customer support.
Seems this was clarified since the Tokyo event, as back then they said NEXION was going to handle support.
Quote:I still would like to get folks to answer the questions I posed above. How much are Japanese people paying now for EVE, including taxes? Japan has VAT of 5% atm. 84,000 AUR ($420) spent on NeX store for Troll and Profit. |

Azahni Vah'nos
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.27 16:29:00 -
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I have to say this is a pretty poor way to treat the Japanese players. Why force them to use Nexon?
Seems CCP didn't do much googling on Nexon with ragards to security, even after a quick search it appears they have had quite a long history of security breaches.
I especially like this one Nexon Isn't Worst Company In America, Yet ... no wonder the Japanese players are concerned.
Good luck to our Japanese brethren in fighting this. Nex (Cash Shop)-á/ Aurum - removing sand from the sandbox since Incarna. Currently the only use for aurum is to buy virtual items in the in-game store, but Cockerill expects to expand its uses in the future. |

Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2011.10.27 16:36:00 -
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People are already putting up instructions on how to re-active an account if you forget to apply PLEX, etc... (http://theatreten.s249.xrea.com/eve/?p=2449)
Seems CCP manages to do marketing magic every time~ 84,000 AUR ($420) spent on NeX store for Troll and Profit. |

Rhinanna
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.27 16:41:00 -
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Hmmm, I believe if you purchase GTC for example from Shattered Crystal, then they are legally obliged to honour them regardless if you are in Japan or not.
-The sword is only as sharp as the one who wields it! Other names: Drenzul (WoT, WoW, Lineage 2, WarH, BloodBowl, BSG, SC2 and lots more)-á |

Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.27 16:48:00 -
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"can they not purchase plex"
"Let them eat cake"
I think the issue is if you want NEW players from Japan you might wanna rethink this. New characters arent gonna know about plex. Also, the current players will leave. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=255722#post255722
My well known stance on WiS |

Grukni
Shimai of New Eden N E X O
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Posted - 2011.10.27 17:03:00 -
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Bad move from CCP. They shoulnd't force fellow Japanese players to pay through NEXON. Do they really believe they're gonna get new players in with a company with such a reputation? In any case, they risk losing the customers they already have. CCP management decision = screw suscribers. |
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