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Kai Duracknar
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Posted - 2005.12.22 06:35:00 -
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Ok I can understand reducing the number of drones in space and increasing their efficiency... but did CCP forget to tweak the mining drones accordingly?
as I recall the harvester always cut 30 units per cycle but now after the tweak. OOOh 30units! Yes I'm really gonna get the same yeild from flying less drones now.....
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Ferrer
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Posted - 2005.12.22 07:26:00 -
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From Tux Does the Math on Drones Dev Blog:
Drone Interfacing Skill changed from 1 drone per leve to 20% drone damage per level and 20% drone mining yield per level. That is at level 5 you get 100% increase to drone damage output and drone mining yield.
You can check out the rest here
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Arkon Pale
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Posted - 2005.12.22 07:36:00 -
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Checking the drone-info seems to be a display bug.
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.22 09:10:00 -
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harvestor drones were meant to be making a new seeding comeback didnt that happen
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Ssoraszh Tzarszh
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Posted - 2005.12.22 09:39:00 -
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I recall someone explaining to me that the skillbonuses on the drones do not get properly displayed because they are not like the regular modules.
I dont know if this is true, but my drone damage stats are way less than what they do if i use them and i guess this is what the mining drones suffer from too. I dont have any mining drones at the moment but you might want to test it on a bit of veldspar.
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Steven Dynahir
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Posted - 2005.12.22 09:51:00 -
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 Originally by: Ferrer
From Tux Does the Math on Drones Dev Blog:
Drone Interfacing Skill changed from 1 drone per leve to 20% drone damage per level and 20% drone mining yield per level. That is at level 5 you get 100% increase to drone damage output and drone mining yield.
You can check out the rest here
Sure..
Old = 15*30/min = 450 units/min
New = 5*30/min*2 = 300 units/min
New with mining bonus module = New*1,2 = 360 units/min
Everything is err.. fine?
Lets add up teh lazerz!
Old = 450 + 3*60*1.25 = 666 units/min
New = 360 + 3*60*1.25*1.2 = 630 units/min
So! By taking away 2 slots for use as mining bonus modules, we get to the situation where one can mine 36 units/minute less than before.
Surely this was not a nerf =)
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Lucre
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Posted - 2005.12.22 09:57:00 -
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Before RMR, 9 Mining drone-I mined 9 units of Bist per cycle.
After RMR, 5 Mining drone-I mine 10 units of Bist per cycle.
That's the sort of nerf I like... 
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Jessica Ba'al
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Posted - 2005.12.22 10:00:00 -
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I think you're missing another small fact. CCP dont want any other ship to be better at mining than a barge.
In the past, before barges came out, the only way anyone could mine enough to make bulk lots of battleships was to mine in battleships.
Now that barges and the new T2 barges are in, they are pushing it back into line with their original vision.
I could be wrong, but thats what it looks like to me. they are making each area of the game more specialised to breed team play and to grow corps.
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Pagefault
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Posted - 2005.12.22 10:01:00 -
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Edited by: Pagefault on 22/12/2005 10:04:08
What ship is that? 3 mining lasers and 15 drones (prepatch) ?
I don't know of any ship, that was able to use 15 drones prepatch and is now only able to use 5
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Steven Dynahir
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Posted - 2005.12.22 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Pagefault
What ship is that? 3 mining lasers and 15 drones (prepatch) ?
Ishtar.
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Pagefault
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Posted - 2005.12.22 10:05:00 -
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Why can the ishtar now only use 5???
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.12.22 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Steven Dynahir
Originally by: Pagefault
What ship is that? 3 mining lasers and 15 drones (prepatch) ?
Ishtar.
people mined in those? bastards!
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Steven Dynahir
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Posted - 2005.12.22 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Pagefault
Why can the ishtar now only use 5???
Because of the Drone changes in RMR.
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Pagefault
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Posted - 2005.12.22 10:08:00 -
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Ishtar lost its +1 drone per gallente cruiser skill lvl?
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Steven Dynahir
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Posted - 2005.12.22 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Steven Dynahir
Originally by: Pagefault
What ship is that? 3 mining lasers and 15 drones (prepatch) ?
Ishtar.
people mined in those? bastards!
It was (think it still is) the best allarounder in the game, that's because there is nothing it cannot do (except mine ice, and where are ice mining drones?!).
The most versalite ship in the game, but lately knocked somewhat out of it's vesality.
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Steven Dynahir
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Posted - 2005.12.22 10:10:00 -
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Originally by: Pagefault
Ishtar lost its +1 drone per gallente cruiser skill lvl?
Yes, but gained +10% drone damage bonus. In the end it means that it lost it's 10% bonus to mining.
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Steven Dynahir
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Posted - 2005.12.22 10:14:00 -
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Aww, forgot the mining drone skill bonus on calculations =)
Old = 1.25*15*30/min = 562,5 units/min
New = 1.25*5*30/min*2 = 375 units/min
New with mining bonus module = 1.25*300*1.2 = 450 units/min
Lets add up teh lazerz!
Old = 562.5 + 3*60*1.25 = 787,5 units/min
New = 450 + 3*60*1.25*1.2 = 720 units/min
That's difference of 67,5 units/min.
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Erodmos
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Posted - 2005.12.22 10:38:00 -
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The mining formular with my current skills on the Dominix are a bit different:
Old Domi: 13 drones x 15m3*1.1 = 214.5 m3/cycle
New: 5 drones x 15m3*1.1*1.8 = 148.5 m3/cycle
Or in Dark Orche, the ore iam really mining:
Old: 13 x 2 units Orche = 26 Orche/cycle
New: 5 x 3 units Orche = 15 Orche/cycle
It looks like a heavy mining nerf with my current skills.
Erodmos
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RawCode
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Posted - 2005.12.22 10:39:00 -
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It is the same with pretty much any drone ship. (i.e dominix, thorax, vexor, Ishtar)
CCP does not care if they were nerfed, because they are combat ships first and foremost. It was not an oversight or they would have said so at some point. Just be happy that they did not nerf it even more.
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Josclyn Verreuil
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Posted - 2005.12.22 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: RawCode
It is the same with pretty much any drone ship. (i.e dominix, thorax, vexor, Ishtar)
CCP does not care if they were nerfed, because they are combat ships first and foremost. It was not an oversight or they would have said so at some point. Just be happy that they did not nerf it even more.
Thorax never had a drone bonus, thus the drone change... assuming drone interefacing 5 means nothing to its mining ability. The Vexor, Dominix, Ishtar, Auguror and *gasp* Moros were the ones who took a hit for mining with drones :p
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Bermag
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Posted - 2005.12.22 11:46:00 -
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Don't forget that some ships like Vexor got a bonus to mining drones. The vexor has 10% / level mining drone bonus
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