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Eli Kzanti Remanaquie Federation 4	Posted - 2013.08.07 23:59:00 - [1] - Quote I've been looking around and doing some experimenting and I've decided it isn't enough... so I am here looking for more PVP Cyclone fits to goof around with. Show me what you got :) I hope to be amazed!
Annunaki soldier Segmentum Solar Nulli Secunda 81	Posted - 2013.08.08 01:49:00 - [2] - Quote hmm if it had 1 more launcher it would be great. Now as a kiting ship something like than maybe ? [Cyclone, New Setup 1] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Warp Disruptor II 10MN Microwarpdrive II Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 150 Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 150 Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I Hammerhead II x5 Ride hard, live with passion-á
DR BiCarbonate Basgerin Pirate SCUM. 70	Posted - 2013.08.08 06:08:00 - [3] - Quote haha cyclone blows since the 'rebalance' only thing going for it is the tank with the op asb the only semi decent way to fit it is with HAMs and dual xlasb which needs like 4 ***** fitting mods. no web means HAMs aint gonna do you much anyways that lol fit above would not recommend, even with 3 bcu you'll be lucky for 300 dps stick with the hurricane even though they nerfed the ** out of it too. -carb
Lloyd Roses Blue-Fire Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 146	Posted - 2013.08.08 08:52:00 - [4] - Quote [Cyclone, 2 xl-asb] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Pseudoelectron Containment Field I Co-Processor II Co-Processor II X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400 X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400 Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Hammerhead II x5 500dps, more with rage. Needs Genolution implants unless you go with an AB instead. I only correct my own spelling.
Whitehound 1790	Posted - 2013.08.08 11:23:00 - [5] - Quote 468 DPS combined, with 35k eHP plus 41k eHP from the XLASB. A smartbomb against drones, a sensor strength of 30 against ECM and all for 50m ISKs. [Cyclone, PvP MWD + HAM] Damage Control II Reactor Control Unit II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Warded Ladar Backup Cluster I Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Adaptive Invulnerability Field II X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400 Shield Boost Amplifier II Faint Warp Disruptor I Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium YF-12a Smartbomb Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Warrior II x1 Warrior II x4 Berserker II x1 Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 3291	Posted - 2013.08.09 21:08:00 - [6] - Quote Cyclone is one of my favorites and since the changes, as Gallente that cross trained to Minmatar, the 5 missile slots and drone bay make this a great ship for me. There's so much drone potential I'm afraid it's going to get nerfed.
Skurja Volpar Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 57	Posted - 2013.08.09 23:46:00 - [7] - Quote Always loved the look of the Cyclone hull. Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Co-Processor II Ballistic Control System II Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400 Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
To mare Advanced Technology 227	Posted - 2013.08.09 23:50:00 - [8] - Quote cyclone is crap since the rebalancing, the ship have at least 1-2 slot (or rig) less than the other BCs because you always need some fitting mods just to fit something on the thing, or you just end up fitting overdrive or nanofiber on a freaking BC wich is kind of silly
Garviel Tarrant Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 1325	Posted - 2013.08.10 02:18:00 - [9] - Quote I don't get these "The cyclone is crap" things Its fastish, it has a pretty decent tank, alright dps and it can fit two neuts. Thats pretty good. BYDI recruitment closed-ish
To mare Advanced Technology 227	Posted - 2013.08.10 04:16:00 - [10] - Quote Garviel Tarrant wrote: I don't get these "The cyclone is crap" things Its fastish, it has a pretty decent tank, alright dps and it can fit two neuts. Thats pretty good. cyclone would be allright if it didnt have to waste slots just to fit what its supposed to fit. and if someone say its supposed to fit large shield boosters, no its just not
Garviel Tarrant Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 1326	Posted - 2013.08.10 08:24:00 - [11] - Quote To mare wrote: Garviel Tarrant wrote: I don't get these "The cyclone is crap" things Its fastish, it has a pretty decent tank, alright dps and it can fit two neuts. Thats pretty good. cyclone would be allright if it didnt have to waste slots just to fit what its supposed to fit. and if someone say its supposed to fit large shield boosters, no its just not I really miss when using an XL on a BC meant you were sacrificing all your cap =< Are you suggesting it should be able to fit two xl's without fitting mods? I thought it fitted fine with one.. could have sworn i had a fit like that although i might be wrong. BYDI recruitment closed-ish
To mare Advanced Technology 227	Posted - 2013.08.10 11:16:00 - [12] - Quote Garviel Tarrant wrote: To mare wrote: Garviel Tarrant wrote: I don't get these "The cyclone is crap" things Its fastish, it has a pretty decent tank, alright dps and it can fit two neuts. Thats pretty good. cyclone would be allright if it didnt have to waste slots just to fit what its supposed to fit. and if someone say its supposed to fit large shield boosters, no its just not I really miss when using an XL on a BC meant you were sacrificing all your cap =< Are you suggesting it should be able to fit two xl's without fitting mods? I thought it fitted fine with one.. could have sworn i had a fit like that although i might be wrong. no im not saying it should be able to fit 2 (im a strong believer that ASB should be limited to 1 per ship like AAR) but at least 1 XL w/o fitting mods sound reasonable to me. the fitting Skurja Volpar posted above its one of the best you can come up with for the ship and its already with alot of named stuff and a co-proc.
Garviel Tarrant Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 1327	Posted - 2013.08.10 12:28:00 - [13] - Quote To mare wrote: no im not saying it should be able to fit 2 (im a strong believer that ASB should be limited to 1 per ship like AAR) but at least 1 XL w/o fitting mods sound reasonable to me. the fitting Skurja Volpar posted above its one of the best you can come up with for the ship and its already with alot of named stuff and a co-proc. So you want to be able to fit an oversized tank mod, a full rack of damage amps and two neuts without a cpu mod? really? Quote: [Cyclone, New Setup 1] Pseudoelectron Containment Field I Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Adaptive Invulnerability Field II X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400 Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Hammerhead II x5 There 510 dps with faction, 571 with rage, 70675 Ehp after you unload your booster (Double LSE drake gets what.. 58k?) 77,8k with blue pill and that number goes to around 100k if you have lg/hg crystals Add to that the fact that you go as fast as a attack BC... Yea this ship really isn't bad.. And if you're willing to spend 8 mill for some more dps you can do this Quote: [Cyclone, New Setup 1] Pseudoelectron Containment Field I Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Adaptive Invulnerability Field II X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400 Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Hammerhead II x5 And if you have genolutions you can even do this Quote: [Cyclone, New Setup 1] Pseudoelectron Containment Field I Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Reactor Control Unit II Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Adaptive Invulnerability Field II X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400 Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Hammerhead II x5 Nothing wrong with this ship, its pretty great. BYDI recruitment closed-ish
To mare Advanced Technology 227	Posted - 2013.08.10 13:36:00 - [14] - Quote Garviel Tarrant wrote: Nothing wrong with this ship, its pretty great. nanofibers on a ship with scram and web make no sense, the other 2 still waste a rig
Whitehound 1799	Posted - 2013.08.10 14:16:00 - [15] - Quote To mare wrote: Garviel Tarrant wrote: Nothing wrong with this ship, its pretty great. nanofibers on a ship with scram and web make no sense, the other 2 still waste a rig Nanos help in making a tackle and holding it and when using double neuts. In so far does it make sense. It is also a fast BC and nanos capitalize on it. I find web&scram combos less attractive the bigger a ship gets, because more ships (the smaller ones) are faster than your own and one is not really in control of tackling, but becomes more often the one who gets tackled. Web&scram is also not very attractive when using missiles and when one does not need to be very close to apply damage, but can keep a little distance to possibly reduce incoming damage from turrets. It is then a question of how important it is to stay at close range and how many med-slots one is willing to use for a tackle. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Mizhir Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 29888	Posted - 2013.08.10 14:30:00 - [16] - Quote To mare wrote: Garviel Tarrant wrote: Nothing wrong with this ship, its pretty great. nanofibers on a ship with scram and web make no sense, the other 2 still waste a rig So speed doesn't matter then? Lets nerf the speed of gallente ships. Noone will notice. There are plenty of ships in this game that need a fitting module or rig to work, so the cyclone isn't a special case. There seem to be a few people here who seem to like the new cyclone. So if you can't make the ship work it might be you and not the ship that is the problem. We will never forget you Saede! I bet you dont see things like this so often in EVE
Garviel Tarrant Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 1327	Posted - 2013.08.10 15:05:00 - [17] - Quote To mare wrote: Garviel Tarrant wrote: Nothing wrong with this ship, its pretty great. nanofibers on a ship with scram and web make no sense, the other 2 still waste a rig Ohh sorry, i didn't realize i was talking to someone who's awful. Carry on. And white you need the web to apply HAM damage, just look at some DPS charts.. The web is essential. BYDI recruitment closed-ish
Whitehound 1803	Posted - 2013.08.10 18:03:00 - [18] - Quote Garviel Tarrant wrote: And white you need the web to apply HAM damage, just look at some DPS charts.. The web is essential. No, I do not. The Cyclone is hardly a brawler. It can tank, but it is too weak on DPS compared to other BCs and a web will not make its DPS competitive. You want to avoid sitting in a Brutix's or Ferox's optimal range and not get webbed by a Drake for example, but kite and make use if its speed and tank to stretch a fight over time. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 3291	Posted - 2013.08.10 18:43:00 - [19] - Quote I must confess that I am biased towards liking the Cyclone because my real world battle cruiser is also a Cyclone. I used them mainly for exploration back when rats could be encountered in exploration sites. An exploration fit cyclone, now an obsolete concept with the changes to exploration, MUST kite, and I had to put 100MN ABs on it. Yes, you can put the next size up AB on a cyclone, still fill up the high slot rack, and run cap stable. Probably not a good idea in PVP if yo can absorb the penalty of extra sig using an MWD. Keep these fits coming - this ship with it's high slot layout and drone bay is like a Mister Potatohead of battle cruisers. I wonder if they intended to make the Cyclone like this in the same manner that the Typhoon is in the Battle Ship class. (Hence there will be just as much debate over fittings?)
Eli Kzanti Remanaquie Federation 5	Posted - 2013.08.11 07:47:00 - [20] - Quote Thanks for the responses so far, guys! Anyone got a non-ancillary PvP setup? Just so we can have a gander ;)
Garviel Tarrant Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 1332	Posted - 2013.08.11 08:38:00 - [21] - Quote Eli Kzanti wrote: Thanks for the responses so far, guys! Anyone got a non-ancillary PvP setup? Just so we can have a gander ;) The only way to make non Ancil setups competetive is if you have Crystals and links. BYDI recruitment closed-ish
Lloyd Roses Blue-Fire Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 148	Posted - 2013.08.11 08:56:00 - [22] - Quote Issue is... You need an X-large on your cyclone to boot, then you need dualcapboost to atleast keep that thing running. If you go for single capboost, aside from running dry on booster-reloads, your complete tank will still be a X-Large and that mentioned cap booster, there just is no way around carrying a web in a HAM boat. While you can pull it off with t2 resists, I'd suggest sticking to single or double XL-ASB setups on a cyclone. I only correct my own spelling.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 3310	Posted - 2013.08.14 22:38:00 - [23] - Quote Bump. Because cyclones.
Victor Rayl Hedion University Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2013.08.14 23:16:00 - [24] - Quote Lloyd Roses wrote: Issue is... You need an X-large on your cyclone to boot, then you need dualcapboost to atleast keep that thing running. If you go for single capboost, aside from running dry on booster-reloads, your complete tank will still be a X-Large and that mentioned cap booster, there just is no way around carrying a web in a HAM boat. While you can pull it off with t2 resists, I'd suggest sticking to single or double XL-ASB setups on a cyclone. What if double nos?
How2FoldSoup 47th Space Militia 38	Posted - 2013.08.14 23:27:00 - [25] - Quote I love the cyclone as well so I'll throw a few fits in I'm not personally a huge fan of this fit and I don't know if I would ever use it. Here's your double xlasb tank though - 4 fitting mods lol. It doesn't have the most impressive numbers plus it seems pretty gimped. I'll put a disclaimer down that I don't endorse this fit nor will I ever (likely) use it. [Cyclone, Dual xlsb] Quantum Co-Processor I Ballistic Control System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Damage Control II X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400 X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400 Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I X5 Prototype Engine Enervator Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile [empty high slot] [empty high slot] Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Ancillary Current Router I Hammerhead II x5 it's got 450 dps with missiles and drones and a 447 tank with 1 booster on. I don't like it because without going faction I couldn't fit even small neuts plus there's no resist bonuses to speak of. There are surely better fits than this one. But hey It's double xlasb if you're into that sort of thing. This is something I would be more likely to use however I don't like it because once you have to reload you're probably dead. It would be nice if CCP took a low or high and gave it a mid just to add some variety into your tank and tackle. [Cyclone, NewCyclone] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Pseudoelectron Containment Field I Ballistic Control System II Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400 X5 Prototype Engine Enervator Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile [empty high slot] [empty high slot] Medium Core Defense Operational Solidifier I Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Warrior II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5 It has more dps and more tank but only until the booster runs out. I prefer a split of 2 sets of lights because if you get caught by a frigate with only hammerheads your web may save you but with warriors you definitely stand a chance. Even more so if you factioned up to throw some small neuts on. The same disclaimer goes for this fit. Since the rebalance I haven't found a cyclone fit I would like to fly yet but I certainly do like the look of it. Maybe with the upcoming 1.1 local rep changes non asb fits will stand a chance and we can see some variety. Well until then - See you space cowboys Soup Edit: Alternatively you have this gem which I stumbled upon and brought up to date. It has a slightly smaller tank but can kite and has more dps. [Myrmidon, LASERS] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Damage Control II Caldari Navy Co-Processor Heat Sink II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400 Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I Warp Disruptor II Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Medium Core Defense Operational Solidifier I Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I Medium Ancillary Current Router I Hammerhead II x2 Ogre II x3 Warrior II x6 Valkyrie II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5 I'm a bad person i know
Nihassa Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2013.08.15 13:29:00 - [26] - Quote Traditional boosting (non-ASB) will be getting a pretty decent boost in a few patches, so really i'd wait till then. For no just stick with ASB's. Have always been a fan of the hull, it used to be so undervalued for what it could kick out, some nice fits here to! =) And seriously, if you cant see the point of nano's on a min ship you need to fly them more!? Dual nano's are brilliant on this hull.
Garviel Tarrant Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 1359	Posted - 2013.08.15 16:10:00 - [27] - Quote Nihassa wrote: Traditional boosting (non-ASB) will be getting a pretty decent boost in a few patches, so really i'd wait till then. For no just stick with ASB's. Have always been a fan of the hull, it used to be so undervalued for what it could kick out, some nice fits here to! =) And seriously, if you cant see the point of nano's on a min ship you need to fly them more!? Dual nano's are brilliant on this hull. Still won't be a reason to go vanilla booster unless you have links/crystals. BYDI recruitment closed-ish
Lloyd Roses Blue-Fire Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 156	Posted - 2013.08.15 18:37:00 - [28] - Quote Victor Rayl wrote: What if double nos? Usually you use a single nos to keep a scrambler running. If you're using two, they replenish a terribly unnoticable amount of cap every 6 seconds I believe, notsure as I rarely use them on anything but tacklefrigs. On the other hand, a XL-SB draws a huge chunk of cap each cycle. While the repair amount is considerable, it also eats through your complete capacitor within seconds (like 8 cycles and you're dry) while your NOS uses up three to four cycles to get you from dry up again to boost once more, given you aren't neuted or requiring your cap otherwise. For keeping range or occasionally mwd'ing/boosting, your NOS won't make a noticable difference on this ship, the repair cycles aswell as the mwd-cycles both require significantly more cap than even two NOS can restore in a timeframe, so just skip on a cyclone. I only correct my own spelling.

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