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Wot I Think
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.28 03:24:00 -
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The reign of terror of the Ferox is finally over, information from the test server has been revealed and even now the news is spreading joy in the hearts of people.
The mighty and feared Ferox had it's overpowered agility reduced to mere mortal levels, will this mean the end of welp fleets consisting entirely of Ferox class battle-cruisers? Only time shall tell
The mighty speed tanking Ferox has fallen!
Live life as if there is no tomorrow, and look forward for tomorrow is a shining day without fear of the Ferox. |

T' Elk
Clearly Compensating The Dark Triad
80
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Posted - 2011.10.28 03:25:00 -
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Ok. God wears-áRay Ban Aviators. |

Alara IonStorm
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.28 03:26:00 -
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NOOOOOO....
Wait isn't the Ferox the Fail Rail Drake?
Continue on.
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Kelsi Corynn
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.28 03:44:00 -
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Tranquility and Singularity are currently running the same build. (306979) |

JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.10.28 03:53:00 -
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Well to be fair, rails got a pretty nice buff in the same data dump that contained the reduced agility of the Ferox. ;)
And, as numerous Dev's and GM's have stated, the numbers shown in that data dump are first pass and very likely to go through changes. |

Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
190
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Posted - 2011.10.28 03:54:00 -
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Not the Ferox!!! That was the one ship I could take out of the hangar and immediately be identified as an older out of touch player!
Now get off my lawn!!!
Issler |

JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
25
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Posted - 2011.10.28 03:56:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Not the Ferox!!! That was the one ship I could take out of the hangar and immediately be identified as an older out of touch player!
Now get off my lawn!!!
Issler
Hey we didn't have much choice... It was the only Caldari BC for quite some time. :P |

Ris Dnalor
Fleet of Doom Ushra'Khan
5
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Posted - 2011.10.28 05:35:00 -
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JC Anderson wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Not the Ferox!!! That was the one ship I could take out of the hangar and immediately be identified as an older out of touch player!
Now get off my lawn!!!
Issler Hey we didn't have much choice... It was the only Caldari BC for quite some time. :P
yea wasn't it like 2 years between the Tier 1 and Tier 2 Battlecruisers?
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Vricrolatious
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.28 05:37:00 -
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JC Anderson wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Not the Ferox!!! That was the one ship I could take out of the hangar and immediately be identified as an older out of touch player!
Now get off my lawn!!!
Issler Hey we didn't have much choice... It was the only Caldari BC for quite some time. :P
I nearly lost my first one to pirates when I opted to rat in lowsec... paid a ransom and she lived on to rat / mission another day. Now we got these new age Drakes and Hurricanes flying around and soon something even newer. WIDot, Best Dot, Even Sans Dot! -Vric |

St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.28 05:42:00 -
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My brothers and sisters, We should not endeavour to attempt to change the Ferox to serve our needs, but ask instead: How can we change ourselves to serve the Ferox? |

Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
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Posted - 2011.10.28 05:43:00 -
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Kelsi Corynn wrote:Tranquility and Singularity are currently running the same build. (306979)
He's talking about the leak from Chaos which is a CCP dev server with the latest changes. |

JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.10.28 05:45:00 -
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Ris Dnalor wrote:JC Anderson wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Not the Ferox!!! That was the one ship I could take out of the hangar and immediately be identified as an older out of touch player!
Now get off my lawn!!!
Issler Hey we didn't have much choice... It was the only Caldari BC for quite some time. :P yea wasn't it like 2 years between the Tier 1 and Tier 2 Battlecruisers?
That sounds about right.. Maybe like 1.5yrs? Can't remember the exact timeframe. |

Vricrolatious
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.28 05:57:00 -
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JC Anderson wrote:Ris Dnalor wrote:JC Anderson wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Not the Ferox!!! That was the one ship I could take out of the hangar and immediately be identified as an older out of touch player!
Now get off my lawn!!!
Issler Hey we didn't have much choice... It was the only Caldari BC for quite some time. :P yea wasn't it like 2 years between the Tier 1 and Tier 2 Battlecruisers? That sounds about right.. Maybe like 1.5yrs? Can't remember the exact timeframe. Vricrolatious wrote: I nearly lost my first one to pirates when I opted to rat in lowsec... paid a ransom and she lived on to rat / mission another day. Now we got these new age Drakes and Hurricanes flying around and soon something even newer.
The Rokh came out in the same patch as the Tier2 bc's.... Sadly, it didn't become as popular as the Drake. ;) I remember really looking forward to it once it was announced though!
The problem with the Rokh is Hybrids, which in theory will be a non-issue soon enough. Right now you can fit them with Arty and they're pretty nasty, not Maelstrom Alpha Fleet nasty, but almost and that's sad. I trained small through large Rail and Blaster specs before I knew any better. Here's hoping the Rokh will finally have a purpose! WIDot, Best Dot, Even Sans Dot! -Vric |

Hrald
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.28 05:58:00 -
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Hybrids are getting a rebalance, though. I picked one up for cheap on contracts. Can't stop the Rokh. |

JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.10.28 06:00:00 -
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Vricrolatious wrote:
The problem with the Rokh is Hybrids, which in theory will be a non-issue soon enough. Right now you can fit them with Arty and they're pretty nasty, not Maelstrom Alpha Fleet nasty, but almost and that's sad. I trained small through large Rail and Blaster specs before I knew any better. Here's hoping the Rokh will finally have a purpose!
Yeah I'm hoping those rail numbers stay and go live also. And the Rokh is one thing that fuels that hope. ;) |

TriadSte
3rd Division
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Posted - 2011.10.28 11:06:00 -
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I believe that this hybrid buff is gonna make a lot of difference in Eve.
I simply cannot wait!! |

Fille Balle
Ballbreakers R us
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Posted - 2011.10.28 11:16:00 -
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Hm, I was gonna start a similar thread, but I guess my points fall under the same issue more more less.
It's not just the ferox. It's all the Caldari rail boats. As if any body ever complained that they had too much agility. It's kinda justified with the Gallente boats since they get a speed boost, but the Caldari boats don't get a boost in max velocity.
10% extra damage on the Rokh, for instance, will not make it overpowered. In fact, people will still prefer other ships. Same goes for the ferox. It's not like 10% extra damage means that the ferox is gonna make stuff asplode before they get in range as result of it's AWESOME agility.
I don't know which muppet came up with this idea, but it's not very well thought out imo. |

JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
28
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Posted - 2011.10.28 11:23:00 -
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Fille Balle wrote:Hm, I was gonna start a similar thread, but I guess my points fall under the same issue more more less.
It's not just the ferox. It's all the Caldari rail boats. As if any body ever complained that they had too much agility. It's kinda justified with the Gallente boats since they get a speed boost, but the Caldari boats don't get a boost in max velocity.
10% extra damage on the Rokh, for instance, will not make it overpowered. In fact, people will still prefer other ships. Same goes for the ferox. It's not like 10% extra damage means that the ferox is gonna make stuff asplode before they get in range as result of it's AWESOME agility.
I don't know which muppet came up with this idea, but it's not very well thought out imo.
Well also take into account that even the fitting requirements are much less in the new numbers. Makes a difference as well. |

Fille Balle
Ballbreakers R us
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Posted - 2011.10.28 12:14:00 -
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JC Anderson wrote:Well also take into account that even the fitting requirements are much less in the new numbers. Makes a difference as well.
Yeah, I just loaded up a Rokh in eft, and with all magstabs in the lows + a full rack of 425's (which is currently impossible due to fitting constraints), and it gives a total dps of a whopping 608 with javelin. Add an axtra 10%, and we get a whopping 668! (all skills @ V)
Now I'v done the same thing with a megathron and a hyperion for good measure (full rack of 425's + 5 magstabs) :
Hyperion (the mods actually fit without fitting mods with current stats): 760 (current) 836 (new)
Megathron (same as above): 665 (current) 731 (new)
I somehow don't see the rokh's awsome agility making it better than the hyperion or the megathron. The range bonus is a waste, since in after 150km you can simply warp to your target. Of course, I haven't actually played around with other ammo types to get a comaprison for range, but somebody else did with current stats, and since both get the 10% bonus I don't see that changing in favour of the Rokh.
The Rokh's only advantage is that it can shoot further than maximum range, which isn't an advantage until maximum locking range is increased, and minimum warp distance is inceased as well. |

destiny2
Sickle Moon Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.10.28 12:17:00 -
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They only nerfed ferox because. The NAGA will get alot more love   |
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CCP Greyscale
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.28 12:19:00 -
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Everything is going to be OK. |
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Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.28 12:23:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Everything is going to be OK.
BACK FROM THE DEAD GÇ£Status quo, you know, is Latin for 'the mess we're in.GÇ¥
~ Ronald Reagan |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.10.28 12:23:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Everything is going to be OK.
That doesnt stop the sky from falling for some people. |

Amro One
One.
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Posted - 2011.10.28 12:28:00 -
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The Ferox was once a mighty ship but is now left to mining asteroid belts with its opti rigs fitted.
I long for the days where the ferox MWD toward its target with blaster firing smiling as the armor dropped.
BARBIE WANT DIFFERENT COLORS OF HEELS |
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CCP Greyscale
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.28 12:36:00 -
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Wait... I was dead? When did this happen?
Nobody told me about it :( |
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Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
240
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Posted - 2011.10.28 12:40:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Wait... I was dead? When did this happen?
Nobody told me about it :(
Could have been.. can't remember the last time i saw you communicating.  GÇ£Status quo, you know, is Latin for 'the mess we're in.GÇ¥
~ Ronald Reagan |

Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.10.28 13:19:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Wait... I was dead? When did this happen?
Nobody told me about it :(
You where working on the soon to be announced modular POS.
and working on your very own movie: http://www.greyscalemovie.com/ - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |

JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.10.28 13:25:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Wait... I was dead? When did this happen?
Nobody told me about it :(
Dead people are always the last to know. |

Kietay Ayari
Monopoly Money Operations
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Posted - 2011.10.28 13:36:00 -
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Why...
Why did this happen. I love the Ferox. Why would anyone want to hurt it. Can you really look at it's pretty face and say I want to hurt it? Neither can I :[ Maybe the new Caldari BC will be even prettier than the Ferox and I will change my #1<3 but for now this hurting Ferox will make me sad.
Please show the Ferox you still care! Ferox #1 |
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