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Erris Veloce
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Posted - 2006.01.03 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: DaRuLe Edited by: DaRuLe on 03/01/2006 14:38:36 Just warp in, create BM, warp out, return to 100km from BM. Kill all support frigs first, after that kill all frigs and finally kill the cruisers. Don't forget to fit at least 1 WCS.
Did that one in a Raven (twice) with 6 cruise launchers.
Same here, cept did it in a ferox. Same tatics though
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Phionna Var
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Posted - 2006.01.03 18:44:00 -
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I lost a Dominix on this one due to the shear lag of having 37 pirates right where you warp in. Froze me up solid for about a minute and then .. there was a pod.
Made a bookmark in my pod
Came back in my new dominix, this time from 100k 2X Large shield booste II, 3 Shield boost amps, and 6 heavy nos. this time they came like a chorus line as i nossed each one as he came in to support my Shield boosters.. while my drones killed them all
This is the Toughtest level 3 mission i have ever done
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MadMaxHellfire
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Posted - 2006.01.03 20:53:00 -
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Edited by: MadMaxHellfire on 03/01/2006 20:58:38 Edited by: MadMaxHellfire on 03/01/2006 20:56:11 Edited by: MadMaxHellfire on 03/01/2006 20:53:56 losing battleships to this mission? losing tech 2 stuff to this mission?
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sometimes noobs need to brag
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Taliac
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Posted - 2006.01.04 06:20:00 -
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Edited by: Taliac on 04/01/2006 06:20:59 After losing my raven i'm now trying it with a caracal. Made a bm and warped in at 60 km. Destroyed all the support frigs and some cruisers (had to warp out 3 times) Used only small missiles. Tonight i'm fitting heavy launchers and taking on the rest.
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Rafein
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Posted - 2006.01.04 07:01:00 -
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Barely got out in my Raven the first time in mission 3
Since then, though, I've done it 3 times, the last 2, I almost fell asleep waiting for the 2 extra waves to arrive.
I am beginning to think it is possible in a high skilled BC.
for Mission 3, as soon as yo warp in, being moving away at the spawn. DO NOT ATTACK ANYTHING RIGHT AWAY, AND KEEP DRONES IN BAY. As soon as your moving away, clear your targets and see find the supprt Frigs. From there, 2 options.
A. The support frigs are not aggro. Lead the spawn attacking you away. If you attack right away, you aggro everything, but with some distance, you can pick off that small spawn and have time to set up. I usually get to around 55 Km with Raven and heavy missiles. Then, you proceed to B.
B. Lock on and attack every support Frig first.. These are the webbers/scramblers, so with them out, your free to jump if needed. They MWD, so attacking them at range with missles can take them out quickly. Throw everything you have, drones and all at the support frigs, and when they are dead, try to take out as many targets as quickly as possible.
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Esab
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Posted - 2006.01.04 07:11:00 -
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I had major problems when I first attempted this.(lost my Eagle).
I complained and threw teddy out of pram etc to no avail...then after thinking about it and calming down I decided to see what could be done about it.
After a bit of experimenting I came up with this . I warped in with a shuttle and sorted the bookies and then got set up for range and started picking them off like this
Now I have got used to it I only need to set one bookie up and with switching ammo types I can complete part 3 with out even taking any considerable damage.
From what was a royal pain of a mission it has become a walk in the park and seeing as it actually made me sit up and think about it for a change I find it is quite a good idea and there should be more like this to keep us all alert.
Just my opinion
Fly safe!
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Reinala
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Posted - 2006.01.04 11:21:00 -
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Well, I lost only a little Trasher on Agent lvl 2 verison . But that was only a second 2 lvl misson in all my 14 day career... Was so scared that almost returned back to 1 lvl boredom. But after another two or three "on the edge of death" missons from that agent my brain finaly came online with ideas for fit and tactics. Next time I accept "Technological Secrets" without much thought.
After all, such missions is very needed (in right proportions of course). Maybe costly, maybe too hard, but very productive on fun and aspiration side of a game. Who loves mindless grind, hm?
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Sentille
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Posted - 2006.01.04 11:47:00 -
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Been doing this in my Tempest with no probs so far. No BM trick used as yet. Although I have got 6 720mm tech II's on my Temp (better ROF/Tracking etc for hitting cruisers, also Med arty spec lvl4)and about 12k armour, assaults and drones for the frigs.
Haven't had this one for a while, think I have warped out to rep armour and regain cap.
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Cherokee Fabry
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Posted - 2006.01.04 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: MadMaxHellfire Edited by: MadMaxHellfire on 03/01/2006 20:58:38 Edited by: MadMaxHellfire on 03/01/2006 20:56:11 Edited by: MadMaxHellfire on 03/01/2006 20:53:56 losing battleships to this mission? losing tech 2 stuff to this mission?
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sometimes noobs need to brag
off-topic : just a small note for your next post, be carefull on what u leave on your chatbox in the screenshot .... bloody italians are everywhere
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Hydrogen
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Posted - 2006.01.04 14:18:00 -
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Retribution ftw :D
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Miko Kiyan
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Posted - 2006.01.04 15:41:00 -
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Edited by: Miko Kiyan on 04/01/2006 15:45:24
Originally by: Rafein Barely got out in my Raven the first time in mission 3
Since then, though, I've done it 3 times, the last 2, I almost fell asleep waiting for the 2 extra waves to arrive.
I am beginning to think it is possible in a high skilled BC.
It's more than possible in a Ferox. There are quite a few posts in the various threads about this mission from low-SP (I believe the lowest I've seen is about 1 mil) people who've completed it in a Ferox,
All my experiences have been with the Thukker/Republic Fleet version:
Myself, I do it in a Ferox and I've got 8.8 mil SP--depends on what you consider high SP, I suppose, but I don't consider 8.8 mil high at all. My missile skills are nothing to brag about, my gunnery skills are crap (I use tech 2 small lasers, but the rest are terrible), but I have maxxed cap and shield skills, very good nav skills and half-decent drone skills--these are the skills that are the most important for the way I approach the mission.
So long as you take out the webbers/scramblers as soon as they become a problem and/or get some distance (if the 100km warp in doesn't work or you didn't do the shuttle+BM thing), this mission is cake so long as your tank is semi-decent. Depending on how lucky you get, you won't really need to *tank* so much as be able to withstand a reasonable amount of damage.
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RatPacker
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Posted - 2006.01.04 16:27:00 -
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1-1 (lvl 2) lost a cormorant first time round, gang friend just about managed to get out in his cormorant with 30% stucture left. Then done the bookmarking after getting spare ship dusted down and managed to finish it off after a few more warps. Nasty is all I can say after just starting doing lvl 2's |
Mongo Smith
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Posted - 2006.01.04 18:03:00 -
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So far I've lost a Retribution and two Prophecy's. The last one I tried to warp out but the missile spams knocked me back to prevent alignment.
A corp mate in a Hac had to finish it for me :(
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Taliac
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Posted - 2006.01.04 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Taliac Edited by: Taliac on 04/01/2006 06:20:59 After losing my raven i'm now trying it with a caracal. Made a bm and warped in at 60 km. Destroyed all the support frigs and some cruisers (had to warp out 3 times) Used only small missiles. Tonight i'm fitting heavy launchers and taking on the rest.
I finished this mission in my caracal. Using that bookmark trick makes it really easy. Fitted a Prototype I sensor booster and 4 heavy missile launchers. I could lock at 90 km and also hit at that distance (i didn't know i could shoot that far ) Still had to warp away 2 times, but it was really easy I thought i had to kill them all, but i got mission completed when there were some 20 still around.
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Karrihn
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Posted - 2006.01.04 22:06:00 -
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Finished just fine in my ferrox. didn't know they warp jammed, never bothered trying to leave till it was finished. Not sure what all the hub-bub is about.
The Destruction of your ship is usually preceeded by the thought,"I think I will try somthing a little different this time...." |
ro prefect
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Posted - 2006.01.04 22:20:00 -
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No level 3 should be so hard that a raven has to warp out and back in from a distance. the first time I did this i was in my raven and it was not setup to take high damage as this was a lvl 3 mission. i went in and was getting hit hard so i was forced to warp out, set my raven for tanking (hardeners FTW), and warped 100km from the BM I set when I first warped out. I then just killed all the cruisers and when the last cruiser died i got a message that i completed the mission. I did not waste my time with the ton of frigs still there.
This mission puts BMH, Spy Stash, and Silence the Informant to shame in terms of how difficult it is.
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Shugo Kazuma
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Posted - 2006.01.05 09:24:00 -
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This mission IMO is overtly difficult. Just finished the level 2 version a while ago. Part 1 was somewhat difficult, but it wasn't out of what I would consider impossible in a cruiser.
Part 3, I cleared the initial agro no problem, but was getting slaughtered by the re-inforcement waves, I had to warp out after taking down 1-2 frigs. I ended up having to go and combat equip and insure my Prophecy so that I could equip guns with enough range and armour to take on the republic fleet stabbers without being destroyed.
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Darkdashing
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Posted - 2006.01.05 09:44:00 -
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anyone having trouble with the version withe the Thukker guys, is that level 1 tech. secrets? I assume if you are losing ravens you are doing lv 3?
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Pinky Denmark
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Posted - 2006.01.05 10:31:00 -
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The mission ends when the Stabbers go to dust (and perhaps some of the support frigs) - Don't have to clear the mess...
The bookmark tricks works (Im sure I invented it first )
People just have to adjust a little instead of complaining... I think CCP has started reinforcing tactics over tanking
Lv2 is definately doable alone without trouble in a Cruiser... 2-3 destroyers sounds like fun - Too bad you are forced to engage right in the middle untill the BM is placed...
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Azia Burgi
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Posted - 2006.01.05 10:46:00 -
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I did this mission in a caracal. i did the bookmark trick (BMing a bit of the scenary and warpping to that at 100km).
Let me tell you 110km range is extremely useful on this mission.
TBH, i think its embrassing that seasoned battleship pilots can't do this mission. Prehaps you guys should try going back to a frigate and learn how to fly a ship.
Azia
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Steven Dynahir
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Posted - 2006.01.05 11:01:00 -
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Not worth all the messages. Quite a simple mission in deed, just takes time a bit more than normal.
What I used was a fast ishtar (wich wasn't even kitted fully, 43% PG 35% CPU).
Only thing to worry in that mission are the fleet stabbers. If you can tank them and go faster than 500m/s you win. If you can go ~800m/s, you don't need to tank.
Same deal as in any mission, warp in, hit AB, fly out of range, dictate battle. If you just stay on one spot and try to tank them all, then you deserve to lose a ship.
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Halada
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Posted - 2006.01.05 13:08:00 -
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I lost a ferox too... but I came back witn a new shiny one with a friend in a HAC and we kicked ass
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Dan Grobag
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Posted - 2006.01.05 13:36:00 -
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lost my geddon, it was not fitted well for that mission but i was thinking it would be able to manage any lvl3 mission.
i killed half the deadspace before dieing, if i had fitted small guns i would have done a better job.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.01.05 17:40:00 -
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nice to make a bit more interest into missions
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Cyber God
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Posted - 2006.01.05 20:48:00 -
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Lost 2 Retributions to this one. Finished it with two friends.
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MorbisFalcos
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Posted - 2006.01.05 22:13:00 -
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Afer a nasty little incident with the Shipyard Theft mission, i've learned to come and read the forums before attempting any new mission. So, I was well versed on what to expect and did a very minor modification to my raven.
I actually thought this was a really easy mission, honestly. I was all pumped up to be on the edge of my seat and was amazed how well I managed.
I have a very simple set up I use for Lev 3 kill missions. I am after corporation rankings for refine yields, so i could care less about a mission being fun or challenging, more of a drag than anything.
Normal set up, mostly named or T2. 3x assualt launchers, 3x hvy launchers, 2 hvy beams ( structures ) xl shield booster, 100mn ab, em, thrm, kin hardener. 2x bal control, 3x PDU 3x berserkers.
This set up is perfect for lev 3 missions. A bit slow if you want to collect cans, but i usually just do that while I am killing things anyhow.
For this mission, expecting the worse, i replaced the AB with a cap injector to help my tanking if needed, and the 2 hvy beams with 125mm rails.
I had the first wave killed before the second arrived. My missile skills are not that great either. This was with the minmatar/thukkar rats. |
Arakasai
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Posted - 2006.01.05 23:09:00 -
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I do the Level 3 version in my Ferox. I have just shy of 4.5 mill SP with 3.8 mill in learning and industry skills.
I lost my Moa on this mission (Level 3) and upgraded to a Ferox (helping out a friend). Since then, I have lost 2 other Ferox helping out a friend who died, so I end up warping in under full spawn.
If I do this mission alone, I warp in and complete it in my Ferox. If I do this mission with a friend and/or for a friend that is having issues with it, then I do the shuttle trick. I could usually manage to drop a bookmark and get out in my Ferox at full spawn but twice I was nailed. Since I have never had more than 30 mill to my name losing my Ferox is a very expensive to me. I would prefer not to have to exploit the shuttle trick but not enough to leave a friend stranded.
It is the hardest mission I have done in Eve, but to be honest, combat is pretty trivial in Eve compared to other MMORPHs. It can be done solo in a BC by a character with 800k SP in combat skills. That pretty much defines it as not difficult.
Eve has lots to offer, but the NPC level combat is really pretty trivial and not at all difficult to figure out and work around.
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Naomi Wildfire
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Posted - 2006.01.06 01:14:00 -
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Lost my Raven
Destroyed 3 Arbalest Cruise and some other stuff
What a Mission ...
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Sun Sliver
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Posted - 2006.01.06 03:36:00 -
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Edited by: Sun Sliver on 06/01/2006 03:39:49
a corp mate and i did this @ lvl3 and found a little quick end to it...kill all the Cruisers only at snipe distance (the cruiser will soft lock around 130km, rest round say 110)...the second wave will pop when the last cruiser gets popped off from the intial wave...
The second wave should all soft lock those in area...kill these ships only. Once the second wave is popped then you can end the mission (test this by looking at journal as the ojective will show completed)...
Until they reduice the difficulty of the mission or up the reward this is what I'm doing
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General Meridus
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Posted - 2006.01.06 06:33:00 -
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Just lost a Typhoon on lvl-3.
Reminds me of Ultima Online, when they created creatures that jumped a screen to you, paralyzed you, and killed in two or three blows. Great fun. Not.
Here the spawn agros, locks you down, and ganks in seconds. Not as if I have a choice when I warp into the middle of a spawn. Yep, I read the threads, where people have found tactics, or book marks to make it work. I don't mind making mistakes and getting blown up. Its just the combination of no control where I land. No control of agroing the entire spawn, and then being locked in place.
Don't want to sound too whiny. It would just be more entertaining to do more than cross my arms and watch, after hitting the "warp to" button.
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