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Macro Slasher
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Posted - 2005.12.28 21:33:00 -
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That's only the tip of the iceberg. I bet you can find over 100 000 euros worth of stuff on sale at any moment if you combine Ebay and all the other similar sites. Myself I calculated once that I could earn very easy some 5000 euros/month by pressing couple buttons with my mouse and farming ISK.
CCP might or might not be aware of all of it. They might or might not like getting those accounts' subscription fees rather than the real players'. (Some people might have left the Eve Online already in disgust over what is happening. A lot more might leave in the months to come) They either might or might not know good solutions to the problems. Some of them either require or not breaking some eggs (causing a lot of whining and problems). Ahh. Who knows.
So far I haven't seen one single credible action taken by CCP. They might have done something but the amount of farmers has steadily increased every day.
Take any trade hub (or otherwise popular quite high security) solarsystem and check all the asteroid belts and ice fields. You will see players names like ajkvhkah and jkaghlkqjhga and asdfasdfasdf in handy ~5 barge + hauler groups. (Unless if "macrointel" guys or the Reservoir Dogs or someone else has cleaned them on purpose. CCP hasn't.) Awfully quiet players that just mine and mine and mine some 20 hours/day non-stop. Most of them are sweatshop stuff and some 10-20 barges controlled by the same person. (They act very similarly and synchronized it when you bump them, destroy them etc) It's horrible to watch. Those "players" are not really playing the game at all.
At peak times there is for sure over 1000 of these ISK grinders around. They are in newbie corporations and have been very calculative in trying to maximize their income. Their mining equipment (barges or apocs or similar) is all they can do. It's very very sad to watch.
It doesn't make the in-game economy collapse though. The price of many items is steadily coming down because you can get the ores half-free. On the other hand.. If you got ISK, you can buy more with the ISK, its value goes only up  But it's not nice knowing that there are hundreds of people around who are quite abusive, skip most of the parts to just get it all instantly.. It feels like cheating at least to me.
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Macro Slasher
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Posted - 2005.12.28 22:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Spy4Hire
CCP will do little to nothing to slow or stop macro operations, so it's up to the players.
... Which can't stop them. You can hurt them but they still do positive result over their 15$/month subscription fee. And as long as they can do that they will not stop for real.
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Macro Slasher
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Posted - 2005.12.28 22:29:00 -
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Over 100 banned? From couple thousand. Well "woohoo". Shame that the new accounts were opened probably next day by the same people and it took them some ~3 hours to get into Cormorants with many lasers, training towards barges again. They were still on the positive side - especially as they move the ISK after the real money.
I'll be impressed when the GMs will ban in one sting operation at least 1000 of them.
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Macro Slasher
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Posted - 2005.12.28 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Embattle
I really do think some people get too obsessed with ebay items and macros.
So it doesn't bother some that some 10% of the players online are cheating? And it affects your market prices etc too? Mmm.. Okay. 
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Macro Slasher
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Posted - 2005.12.28 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Frost
ban them for good.
Banning someone for good is quite impossible. Can't use IPs because they are dead easy to get changed, can't use person names (I got 100 friends in line that could open accounts for me if I just paid), same goes for credit cards and such, can't use computer IDs (you can always change components, some are changeable anyways), ...
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