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Kassasis Dakkstromri
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.18 19:43:00 -
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While trying to jump into Jita today, and getting a notification that the jump gate wouldn't let me through (regular weekend occurrence), the idea of adding TiDi to Jita came to mind...
Just a thought, and given it's not a massive fleet combat situation, the TiDi (time dilation) wouldn't be very much would it?
So I guess the question is would there be any value to adding TiDi to Jita at the expense of things slowing down to 80-90% of normal time? Or just leave the status quo of not being able to log into the Jita System, or having to wait to jump through gates? |
Cade Windstalker
Donohue Enterprises Ad-Astra
44
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Posted - 2013.08.28 03:35:00 -
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TiDi would not help with Jita traffic control, the gate not letting you through is, in fact, a form of server performance management.
The reason for this is because Jita is on its own separate node so you have to be transfered between nodes. Since TiDi only affects the local node putting Jita into TiDi does not help this. |
Ali Aras
Valkyries of Night Of Sound Mind
327
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Posted - 2013.08.28 13:47:00 -
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Jita also *has* TiDi; it's a hell of a pain in the ass for people who're doing things. The cap on Jita is in place to prevent tidi from going beyond 85% every once in a while. http://warp-to-sun.tumblr.com -- my blog |
Muul Udonii
THORN Syndicate Black Legion.
150
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Posted - 2013.08.28 15:45:00 -
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Why not change the 'you can't jump' or 'you cant log in' message to 'you are in the queue to jump/ login'?
All I do is spam jump until it works, which must surely have a worse impact upon performance. Thorn Alliance:-á The worst alliance you ever heard of.
But you had heard of us. |
Rengerel en Distel
1809
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Posted - 2013.08.28 23:08:00 -
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Muul Udonii wrote:Why not change the 'you can't jump' or 'you cant log in' message to 'you are in the queue to jump/ login'?
All I do is spam jump until it works, which must surely have a worse impact upon performance.
I doubt the server doing a math check is very taxing.
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Oscha Esservic
EVE University Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2013.08.28 23:17:00 -
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Muul Udonii wrote:Why not change the 'you can't jump' or 'you cant log in' message to 'you are in the queue to jump/ login'?
All I do is spam jump until it works, which must surely have a worse impact upon performance. I like to think of it as an AFK check. Those people who autopilot in have a high chance of sitting on gate until those people willing to spam the jump button, like you and I Muul, finish up and head home. Plus I image it brings delight to many a ganker. |
Oliver Stoned
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2013.09.13 03:09:00 -
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While you are at it, you should impose a parking fee for pilots within 30km of the main trade hub.
Like a No Wake zone for boats, but if you remain too long, there is a fee deducted from you wallet.
That should change up peoples tactics. |
Theon Severasse
Sniggwaffe WAFFLES.
37
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Posted - 2013.09.24 11:03:00 -
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The gate should let you jump, but you get stuck in the portal thingy until your turn in the queue is up. |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
430
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Posted - 2013.10.05 19:53:00 -
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The pilot limit should be elevated. Let Tidi hit. It would strongly encourage more transactions away from Jita. CCP has been propping it up for far too long. CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
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Kristoff Merkas
Industrial Mining Exploration
0
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Posted - 2013.10.27 18:24:00 -
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Having gone to Jita a few times, I do see this issue. Imposing restrictions that cause Jita to become a less lucrative SPAM and Trade zone, would be very efficient, and allow for the vast flow of ISK to spread out to lesser systems. Notably the ones around Jita which rarely have people in them, OR the rest of The Forge for that matter.
It would be very economically sound, for Jita to be "lessened" as a Pull Factor for everyone, or atleast do something about the spammer bots, but hey. That's just the opinion of an EVE Noob. :) Semi-Official Diplomat for the Industrial Mining Exploration Corporation. (Z-TR) Mission Runner/Small Time PvP |
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
12154
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Posted - 2013.10.28 03:29:00 -
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How about increasing transaction taxes by 1% for every 100 people in local over the current cap?
The problem will soon self-correct.
1 Kings 12:11
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Sephira Galamore
Inner Beard Society
204
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Posted - 2013.10.28 13:33:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:How about increasing transaction taxes by 1% for every 100 people in local over the current cap?
The problem will soon self-correct. The basic idea sounds pretty good actually. Corp offices rise in price, too, when there's much demand.
It can even explained with lore.. high strain on system/station resources, docking ports messed up all the time..
One effect would prolly be a lot of trade moving to immediate neigbour systems.. which there are a lot of, due to the highway routes around Jita. |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2304
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Posted - 2013.10.28 14:48:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:How about increasing transaction taxes by 1% for every 100 people in local over the current cap?
The problem will soon self-correct.
Yes, goons would log in 2,000 pilots in system just for the LOLZ.
Anyway, I have a better suggestion: how about reducing server population? I am sure that with only 30,000 players logged in, Jita and most of TQ would work smoother. The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
1535
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Posted - 2013.10.28 15:27:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:How about increasing transaction taxes by 1% for every 100 people in local over the current cap?
The problem will soon self-correct. I would guess that a vast majority of people in Jita don't care about transaction taxes. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
12194
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Posted - 2013.10.28 15:53:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:Malcanis wrote:How about increasing transaction taxes by 1% for every 100 people in local over the current cap?
The problem will soon self-correct. I would guess that a vast majority of people in Jita don't care about transaction taxes.
They will when they start hitting 10%. Or 20%.
1 Kings 12:11
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Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1055
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Posted - 2013.10.28 23:33:00 -
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Just have Jita's sec status drop to 0.4 whenever there's more than 1000 in local for an hour.
The problem would quickly become self correcting, as I don't think many people have their medical clone in Jita. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. The difference between an enemy and a friend is that you stab your enemies in the front. |
Be4st
Vengance Inc. Renegade Alliance
34
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Posted - 2013.11.01 03:05:00 -
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I'm not sure if this would put more strain on the server but what about having the server check and automatically log people out in Jita that have been AFK for say 30 mins. I would say roughly 20% of the Jita population are AFK throughout the whole day. So many people set destination to Jita, hit that autopilot button and go to work/walk the dog/have dinner/bang their girlfriend, and don't come back to the PC for ages |
Mra Rednu
Black Watch Guard
439
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Posted - 2013.11.01 13:11:00 -
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It's Jita, who cares. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1076
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Posted - 2013.11.01 22:00:00 -
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Be4st wrote:I'm not sure if this would put more strain on the server but what about having the server check and automatically log people out in Jita that have been AFK for say 30 mins. I would say roughly 20% of the Jita population are AFK throughout the whole day. So many people set destination to Jita, hit that autopilot button and go to work/walk the dog/have dinner/bang their girlfriend, and don't come back to the PC for ages
AFAIK only people in space contribute anything of note to Ti-Di. Unless bumpers or gankers take corrective action they do no stay in space long.
AFK and orbiting 4-4 at 70 km in an interceptor, however... https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. The difference between an enemy and a friend is that you stab your enemies in the front. |
David Kir
Statement of Intent
311
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Posted - 2013.11.05 21:33:00 -
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Jita has had a special treatment for too long already. Move it to a normal node, remove the population cap, let the problem sort itself out. |
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Renslip Darkdraught
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
75
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Posted - 2013.11.07 15:48:00 -
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Muul Udonii wrote:Why not change the 'you can't jump' or 'you cant log in' message to 'you are in the queue to jump/ login'?
All I do is spam jump until it works, which must surely have a worse impact upon performance.
... this is a great idea, will make it easier to gank the que!
Drunk tank, best tank. |
Michael Mach
Viziam Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.01.15 16:22:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:Muul Udonii wrote:Why not change the 'you can't jump' or 'you cant log in' message to 'you are in the queue to jump/ login'?
All I do is spam jump until it works, which must surely have a worse impact upon performance. I doubt the server doing a math check is very taxing.
I doubt the server serving one pilot and his actions in the system is taxing either. Multiply that 2,000 or so. It's the same kind of crap that's causing the Jita lag in the first place, which strangely enough, we're talking about right now.
EDIT: Also add all of the mobile depot stick figure art into consideration. |
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